Paper Gangsta 6,693 Posted April 10, 2016 Share Posted April 10, 2016 12 hours ago, Red said: I think the majority of the so-called "haters" don't actually dislike her, they just think she's overrated, which is kinda true yeah and if you don't praise her to the heavens hive labels u as hater Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
brizoda 3,846 Posted April 10, 2016 Share Posted April 10, 2016 I like her music, but sometimes i feel like she's fake and disingenuous Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas P 18,479 Posted April 10, 2016 Share Posted April 10, 2016 15 hours ago, Sizzliy said: People can like different music But also, her fans are ungodly arrogant. Ya but a lot of ppl say that we are ungodly annoying. Fan bases can really be a pain in the ass sometimes. I’m a simple guy to please, if you like Melodrama, we chill. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hELXIG 42,954 Posted April 10, 2016 Share Posted April 10, 2016 There are just a lot of haters here in general I'll be myself until they fūcking close the coffin. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nobody3089 250 Posted April 10, 2016 Share Posted April 10, 2016 People don't hate Beyoncé. They just don't like their fans. The Beehyve. They are annoying as **** and they treat beyonce's accomplishments as theirs. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roomingfree77 244 Posted April 10, 2016 Share Posted April 10, 2016 18 hours ago, boobtank said: I've noticed there's a lot of negative feelings towards Beyonce on here and I'm just wondering what warrants it? She's very talented, been making great music, an amazing performer, she's collaborated with Gaga on two occasions... I don't really get it? In the mean time, let's all enjoy this FLAWLESS Beyonce performance at the Stevie Wonder tribute concert Jay Z messed that broad up.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Child 18,997 Posted April 10, 2016 Share Posted April 10, 2016 18 hours ago, KURUSHITOVSKA said: I loved I Am Sasha Fierce so much. But then she started acting too egocentric. "I slay"? I don't like things like this. She is talented, of course, but I'm not into her now. I still listen to I Am btw. Why can't a female pop singer brags about her success and a male pop singer can? Let her do her thing, she do slays anyway. ‘If religion be the cause of disunity, then irreligion is surely to be preferred.’ ‘Abdu’l-Bahá Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KURUSHITOVSKA 20,451 Posted April 10, 2016 Share Posted April 10, 2016 16 minutes ago, CrazyMonster said: Why can't a female pop singer brags about her success and a male pop singer can? Let her do her thing, she do slays anyway. Ive never said that I like male pop singers that brag about their success haha ¿Qué currículum tiene ésta tarántula? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Ryan 1,468 Posted April 10, 2016 Share Posted April 10, 2016 1 hour ago, CrazyMonster said: Why can't a female pop singer brags about her success and a male pop singer can? Let her do her thing, she do slays anyway. I mean damn she was just having fun with "I slay".... lol I mean my gawd. I slay too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Child 18,997 Posted April 10, 2016 Share Posted April 10, 2016 56 minutes ago, BrianxRyan said: I mean damn she was just having fun with "I slay".... lol I mean my gawd. I slay too. We should all be like her, we should all love & embrace ourselves. There's nothing wrong with acknowledging the fact that you're slaying! ‘If religion be the cause of disunity, then irreligion is surely to be preferred.’ ‘Abdu’l-Bahá Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Ryan 1,468 Posted April 10, 2016 Share Posted April 10, 2016 4 minutes ago, CrazyMonster said: We should all be like her, we should all love & embrace ourselves. There's nothing wrong with acknowledging the fact that you're slaying! all day, all day Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Child 18,997 Posted April 10, 2016 Share Posted April 10, 2016 13 minutes ago, BrianxRyan said: all day, all day ‘If religion be the cause of disunity, then irreligion is surely to be preferred.’ ‘Abdu’l-Bahá Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Child 18,997 Posted April 10, 2016 Share Posted April 10, 2016 Honestly, I used to hate her some years ago, I even used to call her Thiefoncé but then I thought why is she described as full of herself & not humble when all she's doing is embracing herself and acknowledging her hard work! ‘If religion be the cause of disunity, then irreligion is surely to be preferred.’ ‘Abdu’l-Bahá Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrawberryBlond 14,819 Posted April 10, 2016 Share Posted April 10, 2016 20 hours ago, Harry said: I really think it's just jealousy. Beyonce is one of the most talented singers and performers of our time and people get upset about her being successful. Can really find no other reason other than jealousy. It's one thing to be unimpressed by her music and then another to be completely adamant that she doesn't deserve what she has worked so hard to achieve. Jealousy. Also certain members here have been known to aim racial prejudice towards her and so probably shouldn't be trusted. Such a typical response. It doesn't always come down to jealousy. You'd only be jealous of a singer if you're a singer yourself. Beyonce just frustrates me for a lot of reasons, that's all. I've listed my reasons and you still want to call it jealousy? If you can't come up with any reasons, you just hate her, then you can claim jealousy. But still bringing it all back to that cliche response just shows how un-accepting you are of other opinions. And I do have a problem with some of her music. I just didn't list that one. And yes, that last bit was totally aimed at me. Rest assured I never make judgements based on people's race. I'm criticising people that give allowances because of race. And it does happen in the industry. Record labels do it, critics do it, the public do it. Black singers just get automatic respect these days even though most of them aren't a patch on the ones from the 90's and before. Don't get me wrong, all new singers in general don't really thrill me but the difference is, I notice the black ones get treated with a whole lot more respect even when they're on the same level or worse. I mean, explain why the atrocity that is Future gets critical praise, for example. You know if a white guy did that kind of music and rapping, he'd be laughed out the door. 19 hours ago, BrianxRyan said: this is getting heated. The people who don't like Beyonce' have giving more reasons to hate on them than Beyonce' because talking down on people is something that B stands against @Harry you are right on the money keep it up Beyonce would never talk down to people? Look at how she treated her bandmates for years ("all of the bad seeds are now out of Destiny's Child"). And have you ever listened to Ring The Alarm? Irreplaceable? Single Ladies? Best Thing I Never Had? A lot of the lines from Flawless? A lot of the lines from Formation? This is the problem that I have with her fans - they think she's an untouchable goddess who does no wrong and would never say a bad thing about anyone. 19 hours ago, Nicole said: She's an amazing performer imo. I saw her live and she is definitely among the best. I love her music, but I do get disappointed at the lack of input she has in the creation etc. HOWEVER, why does the fact that she doesn't write her songs give reason for people to just straight out hate her/not respect her? Some people don't have that talent, why shouldn't she be able to share her other talents i.e. singing just because she can't write songs? Should people who can write songs but not sing not be able to give their songs to people like Beyonce? If she doesn't have a creative mind, why shouldn't she hire people who do? I don't get why the overall product she delivers shouldn't be enjoyed just because it was 100% from her. Because she gets so much praise that you'd think she had a whole lot of talents when in fact, she can only sing and dance. If that's all you can do, I think praise should be kept reasonable and not overdone. Save that for the actual artistic creators. A lot of people can sing and dance but not many can write songs. You can enjoy the music but don't praise her for it because it didn't come from her. I don't worship any singer who is just a singer. You have to give me more than that because anyone with a good voice could do what you're doing - singing a song someone else wrote. If an artist can't provide 100% effort, they don't deserve ultimate praise. Just my opinion, though. 16 hours ago, Regiment said: This is a tad insulting. I'm sorry if it came across that way. I'm not racist, I just observe things and feel the need to comment on them and black singers getting overly praised when they're just as basically talented as white singers, or less, it annoys me. I think everyone should be held to the same standard. There is a distinct stereotype that blacks make the best urban music, so they get a bit of automatic respect before they open their mouths whereas whites always have something more to prove. It should be an even playing field. I don't care what race someone is - if they're great, they're great, if they're bad, they're bad. But lately I've just seen so many allowances for mediocraty or outright awful material from black artists that I have to wonder if there's a bit of bias going on. See what I said to Harry a few quotes above. 10 hours ago, Son of ARTPOP said: Anyway, moving on - the hate Bey gets, in general, is because she is successful, she is woman, she is black. Here on GGD, many Monsters are pressed about her since she stole Gaga's thunder in 2013. Just when ARTPOP was reaching unimaginable amount of backlash, Bey came and everyone basically abandoned Gaga and forgot about her. The hype around self-titled made all pop albums from 2013 a non-factor bar The 20/20 Experience. But I really dislike the attitude that many have. Let's go back to 2011 when BTW was everything, and Bey was a no one with 4. I doubt someone here pitied her at the time. Yeah, there may be some racist people out there who don't like her because she's black but for the most part, being black has never been a barrier to success in music like people like to believe it is. I mean, in 2004, every #1 single on the Billboard Hot 100 (12 in total) was by a black artist, including the people featured. 6 out of the 9 #1's in 2005 were by black artists (Mariah counts as mixed). 13 out of the 18 #1's in 2007 were by black artists (Fergie counts as mixed). Urban music ruled from 2003-2008 and its made a comeback recently. We need to open up our eyes and stop believing these lies about blacks not being able to get anywhere in the industry because of their colour. In the mainstream scene and definitely in the urban scene, there's no problem anyway. And about BTW vs. 4, I've never liked Beyonce, successful or not. She was around before Gaga came along, so she was never a threat to my fave since the beginning. It's just because she's so overrated by so many people, that's all. Gaga is catching up to her with successful singles and she's not even been around as long. Beyonce sells albums and tours (with Gaga also does) but not singles anymore. Gaga still can have singles with decent levels of success, though, so technically, she's more successful, at least to me. If there's anyone who's been a threat to Gaga, it's Rihanna, Katy and Taylor. Beyonce never has been, bar her self-titled, but then that only had one successful single that only really the fans and music reviewers know of. 1 hour ago, BrianxRyan said: I mean damn she was just having fun with "I slay".... lol I mean my gawd. I slay too. When a rich, successful artist says it, though, it's such a smug thing. It's only acceptable if they're a rapper because bragging is part of the game. But a regular singer bragging about things we mere mortals will never achieve is so self-righteous. Most people who sing these lines won't even believe them, not really. If you slay, you don't need to say it, you just quietly believe it. Saying it can have the opposite effect. If you want to be considered cool, never say it. Because claiming to be cool is in itself un-cool. Because cool people aren't tryhard and don't have to state the obvious. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
StarstruckIllusion 52,473 Posted April 10, 2016 Share Posted April 10, 2016 22 hours ago, KURUSHITOVSKA said: I loved I Am Sasha Fierce so much. But then she started acting too egocentric. "I slay"? I don't like things like this. She is talented, of course, but I'm not into her now. I still listen to I Am btw. Seriously? It's the same context of Born This Way. Gaga isn't saying she is beautiful in her own way. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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