Donald Trump: I’ll Make Mexico Pay For The Wall By Blocking Money Sent Home

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18 hours ago, LG said:

most of the time i wonder if ur a troll or not.. how can someone be so selfish and naive on foreign policy 

 oh my

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2 hours ago, TiphEret said:

But the point is not about what they get from paying taxes. of course it makes sense they get the same benefits from it as a regular citizen. 

I mean, why do government let them pay taxes and won't regularize their situation? They benefit from it? They keep talking as if immigrants destroy the economy and it probably impact it but they are still glad those people contribute and they are needed because someone is hiring them? So why is someone hiring them? I don't know the tax an employer pays when he hire someone but in France it is pretty much as high as the pay the worker get so you can definitely see how hiring someone and paying them under the table is attractive, you could even pay them more it won't reach the amount you spend on taxes anyway. 

I just think that Trump is a business man obsessed with money "easy" if not stupid solution. It's not because one is rich and an entrepreneur they can run a country, unless you consider the US a company. But anyway a wall won't solve the issue at all and it would create such a big diplomatic issue that I doubt this law will ever happen anyway. 

Undocumented immigrants do not pay federal nor state level income tax. Idk what you mean by "paying takes". Are you talking about the extremely small sales tax?

 

11 hours ago, Gummy Bear said:

1. But my mother and father BOTH are illegal immigrants whom pay taxes. So they pay for programs that feed us (illegal immigrant scholars) and are trying to pay for my higher-education programs. Yet, Trump and the like want me out. I don't honestly understand? If you can, please educate me.

But from my perspective, my kind are seen as the "rapists" and such, but I myself have been sexually assaulted by some piece-of-**** douche who thought it was okay to f--k my a-- by force without my consent (met threw Grindr), yet I am the problem? 

2) Mexico has so many higher-education graduates whom have found a good living, but it's often found through illegal channels. I want to do everything legally, and cannot come into the US "legally" after 10 years, AND I'M BATELY 21! I Need some ****ing help, dude 😕😕 I cannot wait until I'm 31 in order to become successful. That's, like, almost a life-time 😭

If they are undocumented, they do not pay taxes. Only sales taxes, which are extremely low. Idk what or where you're talking about. Also, if your state allows undocumented immigrants to receive Obamacare subsidies and instate tuition, they almost definitely have a Dream Act law on the books as well (meaning if you were brought here by a certain age and are in school, you can stay).

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5 minutes ago, MJHolland said:

Undocumented immigrants do not pay federal nor state level income tax. Idk what you mean by "paying takes". Are you talking about the extremely small sales tax?

 

If they are undocumented, they do not pay taxes. Only sales taxes, which are extremely low. Idk what or where you're talking about. Also, if your state allows undocumented immigrants to receive Obamacare subsidies and instate tuition, they almost definitely have a Dream Act law on the books as well (meaning if you were brought here by a certain age and are in school, you can stay).

I read this article it was based on interviewed from French illegal immigrants and stuff, but basically even though you aren't legal you can still get a tax number and declare your salary and pay taxes because apparently it is less worse than if you don't declare anything. Which is ****ing weird but i'll try find a English version of what I am talking about.  

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So he wants to break Mexico's economy. And then somehow they'll be able to build a 1000 mile long wall? That makes sense.

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22 hours ago, SISTERV said:

 

The fact is, there are genuinely good Mexican people. Who are in horrible conditions. They, too, have a government that doesn't care. And then they come to America illegally, steal jobs, co-opt our culture, are prone to commit crimes (that's a FACT), and **** over hardworking AMERICAN families.

 

 

If an illegal, uneducated, Mexican immigrant can steal your job, then I'm worried for YOU.

I've never heard ANYONE complain in the US about Mexicans stealing jobs, I mean DECENT people.

The only ones complaining are those negative fat white lazy Christian skanks you see shopping at one-tree-dollar.

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28 minutes ago, Brodinsky said:

If an illegal, uneducated, Mexican immigrant can steal your job, then I'm worried for YOU.

I've never heard ANYONE complain in the US about Mexicans stealing jobs, I mean DECENT people.

The only ones complaining are those negative fat white lazy Christian skanks you see shopping at one-tree-dollar.

Negative fat white lazy Christian skanks at the dollar store?

That is kind of racist and prejudiced. I mean....why is it okay to say that? 

And IDK where you're from, but there are ALOT of black and white people that feel this way. It's also not just the job stealing. It's the fact it illegally drives down wages because of illegal business practices, the fact they don't assimilate fairly, and the fact they don't pay taxes. It's not even racism. It wouldn't matter if it was a white country south of us....what they are doing is illegal. 

 

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1 hour ago, SISTERV said:

Negative fat white lazy Christian skanks at the dollar store?

That is kind of racist and prejudiced. I mean....why is it okay to say that? 

And IDK where you're from, but there are ALOT of black and white people that feel this way. It's also not just the job stealing. It's the fact it illegally drives down wages because of illegal business practices, the fact they don't assimilate fairly, and the fact they don't pay taxes. It's not even racism. It wouldn't matter if it was a white country south of us....what they are doing is illegal. 

 

Haha don't come at me with racist and prejudice broken record. That's what Trump's campaign is based in. Nevertheless if they are Mexicans, North Americans, Canadians, etc. theh are humans like you and me. **** trump he's the plague

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1 minute ago, Brodinsky said:

Haha don't come at me with racist and prejudice broken record. That's what Trump's campaign is based in. Nevertheless if they are Mexicans, North Americans, Canadians, etc. theh are humans like you and me. **** trump he's the plague

That's not racism. 

Mexican isn't even a race moron, it's a nationality. Go back to the sixth grade. And take your reverse racism with you. 

Clearly cute doesn't equal intelligence. Because your good looking but your ideas are pretty stale and unsupported. I suggest modeling. 

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1 hour ago, SISTERV said:

That's not racism. 

Mexican isn't even a race moron, it's a nationality. Go back to the sixth grade. And take your reverse racism with you. 

Clearly cute doesn't equal intelligence. Because your good looking but your ideas are pretty stale and unsupported. I suggest modeling. 

Haha so when I talk about white uneducated slobs it is racism, but when Trump talks about all mexicans being rapists it isn't?

Haha seems legit!

 

haha and Trump supports his arguments? LMAO never heard that from him.

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5 hours ago, Brodinsky said:

Haha so when I talk about white uneducated slobs it is racism, but when Trump talks about all mexicans being rapists it isn't?

Haha seems legit!

 

haha and Trump supports his arguments? LMAO never heard that from him.

Mexican isn't a race. It's a nationality. White is a race. He didn't even generalize Mexicans as rapists. 

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22 hours ago, MJHolland said:

Horrible murders? Who is benefiting from illegal immigration? The drug lords? The coyotes that rape Mexican women and children along their journey to America? I fail to see how a well regulated wall and patrol force wouldn't stop this. 

You obviously haven't read what I posted before. The US should be helping to stabilize Mexico and the legitimacy of their government, but in the mean time they at least need to cooperate with us on stopping the legal flow of people and especially drugs. And the thing is, we already help Mexico out a lot! We lose billions of dollars in trade deficits with Mexico every single year. How to they respond? By allowing drugs to flow into the US. Cool. Lets not pretend we don't have the power to build a wall within a year and say f*ck you too, deal with your own problems (I think that would be cruel and unnecessary and a last resort, but Mexico takes us as a trade partner for granted. If you think the country is bad now, imagine it without U.S. aide).

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If you read it, it says morals  How would a wall fix this? By keeping them in an area where rape is indeed higher? Keeping them in corruption and poor living conditions for them to die or be killed?

The US isn't going to give two shits about Mexico, you see Donald Trump simply proposing to build a wall and affect millions. What is he going to do to help a corrupt government run by cartels? They don't "allow" drugs to come, some citizens here seem to have no problem buying drugs but then complain about cartels bringing them here. Seems a bit hypocritical to me. Let's pretend that there aren't other connections in the US. Come on, there's AMERICAN PEOPLE DISTRIBUTING DRUGS DO. WAKE UP. STOP ACTING LIKE ALL ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS BRING DRUGS. HAVE YOU HEARD ABOUT AMERICANS GOING OVER TO COLLECT AND THEN COMING TO DISTRIBUTE? Let's allow millions of people to suffer and die because they have no say in what occurs. Cool! Everyone should handle their problems that way!

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On 5 de abril de 2016 at 0:59 PM, SychosSoChic said:

My reaction:

 

I hope you're trolling. (: 

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23 hours ago, SISTERV said:

But thanks for trying to make me look dumb.

Boo I don't need to try, you have done a great job of doing that yourself just ask the 99.9% of GGD members you attacked and insulted.

and billionaire without showing his tax returns?? lol do YOU keep up with anything

http://www.forbes.com/sites/taxanalysts/2016/04/05/donald-trump-wont-release-his-tax-returns-while-under-audit-but-richard-nixon-did/#7781d7d5593d

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22 hours ago, MJHolland said:

Undocumented immigrants do not pay federal nor state level income tax. Idk what you mean by "paying takes". Are you talking about the extremely small sales tax?

 

If they are undocumented, they do not pay taxes. Only sales taxes, which are extremely low. Idk what or where you're talking about. Also, if your state allows undocumented immigrants to receive Obamacare subsidies and instate tuition, they almost definitely have a Dream Act law on the books as well (meaning if you were brought here by a certain age and are in school, you can stay).

Ok I found a study and articles in English, this what I am talking about 

http://www.itep.org/immigration/

"An updated 50-state study, Undocumented Immigrants’ State and Local Tax Contributions, by the Institute on Taxation and Economic Policy finds that undocumented immigrants’ tax contributions would increase significantly under the Obama Administration’s executive actions and even more substantially under comprehensive immigration reform granting  all undocumented immigrants lawful permanent residence.

The 11 million undocumented immigrants currently living in the United States collectively paid $11.64 billion in state and local taxes.  ITEP’s analysis finds their combined nationwide state and local tax contributions would increase by $805 million under full implementation of the administration’s 2012 and 2014 executive actions and by $2.1 billion under comprehensive immigration reform.

“Regardless of the politically contentious nature of immigration reform, the data show undocumented immigrants greatly contribute to our nation's economy, not just in labor but also with tax dollars,” said Meg Wiehe, ITEP's State Tax Policy Director."

So from what I understand they do pay state taxes, but I am not familiar with the American tax system. I knew though that you can ask to pay taxes even if you have not enter the US legally and I found it odd. I am pretty sure it is not the only country doing this though. I don't get why they would not try to regularize immigrants first or deport them, if they are such a burden but then make sure they can pay taxes. It's quite hypocritical when you hear the speech some have about them. 

An article too , talking about the study: http://www.thefiscaltimes.com/2015/04/16/Study-Finds-Illegal-Immigrants-Pay-118B-Taxes

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12 hours ago, GloZell Green said:

STOP ACTING LIKE ALL ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS BRING DRUGS.

It doesn't matter what they bring. They're illegal. Bringing themselves is bad enough and they need to leave. Maybe they should bring a green card.