mmm 879 Posted March 23, 2016 Share Posted March 23, 2016 4 minutes ago, Morphine Prince said: How exactly would they profile these people though? You can easily lie about your religion. I think they would just have to ban ALL visas from ALL Middle East and Southwest Asians nations. The issue is that he's saying "Ban all Muslims from entering" (except US citizens). But how do you identify a Muslim? What about US citizens who go get radicalized in these regions and come back? Ban people only from the middle east as this is where most terrorists are and do it temporarily until things calm down and a better system is done to make sure US citizens are safe. Many Muslim countries like lebanon actually have their religion written in their passport. You can also make things easier by allowing muslims who have already been to the US multiple times like me for example. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morphine Prince 109,975 Posted March 23, 2016 Author Share Posted March 23, 2016 1 minute ago, faysalaaa1 said: Ban people from Arabic middle eastern countries temporarily until things calm down and a better system is done to make sure US citizens are safe. Many Muslim countries like lebanon actually have their religion written in their passport. "Until things calm down" When will that be exactly? Terrorist attacks have been happening forever. Things are only getting worse. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mmm 879 Posted March 23, 2016 Share Posted March 23, 2016 Just now, Morphine Prince said: "Until things calm down" When will that be exactly? Terrorist attacks have been happening forever. Things are only getting worse. Yes but now terrorist threats or extremely high and directly threatening the US as its the terrorist main goal.. having a more strict system in place after the ban would be the better solution. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edonis 28,974 Posted March 23, 2016 Share Posted March 23, 2016 2 minutes ago, faysalaaa1 said: Ban people only from the middle east as this is where most terrorists are and do it temporarily until things calm down and a better system is done to make sure US citizens are safe. Many Muslim countries like lebanon actually have their religion written in their passport. You can also make things easier by allowing muslims who have already been to the US multiple times like me for example. Girl bye. I'm Lebanese and people lie constantly on those things and you don't have to put your religion on your passport. This whole thing is ridiculous and going to lead to more youth getting brainwashed into become pro-ISIS. Let's not forget ISIS kills fellow Muslims too. Look at Syria, Lebanon, turkey. Y'all act like it's just a western problem. No it isn't. And this "solution" is utter BS. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mmm 879 Posted March 23, 2016 Share Posted March 23, 2016 2 minutes ago, Edonis said: Girl bye. I'm Lebanese and people lie constantly on those things and you don't have to put your religion on your passport. This whole thing is ridiculous and going to lead to more youth getting brainwashed into become pro-ISIS. Let's not forget ISIS kills fellow Muslims too. Look at Syria, Lebanon, turkey. Y'all act like it's just a western problem. No it isn't. And this "solution" is utter BS. Im from Saudi Arabia and I know that ISIS kills muslims too as they bombed many mosques around me.. we all need to make sure we are safe and the US have that right too. How is restricting people to enter the US lead youth into turning into ISIS fighters? it is true that lebanese have their religion on their passport. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Economy 53,095 Posted March 23, 2016 Share Posted March 23, 2016 1 hour ago, MJHolland said: It makes sense. We are not talking about American citizens. We deserve the right to not allow anyone we want into this country. Muslims in the middle east are threatening America and for the matter the entire west. Sorry. They pose a disproportionately high risk. And not again with people moronically comparing him to a dictator. The man want's smaller government and less power in the federal government and you still think he is Hitler... I partially agree because sometimes some groups of people may pose a higher risk of something than others and you gotta look at that... but theres no need to always voice concerns so bluntly and disrespectfully. He has no sense of empathy. The least u can do as a leader if u gotta make tough choices as a leader that affect people negatively is to at least sympathize with the affected not make comments in disgust ways as he always does Secondly with regards to smaller government, i dont know how much he will pull that off... in terms of less regulation maybe, but hes promissed a whole lot of stuff that in order to happen means spending cant drop much if anything. Hes trying to appeal to everyone he doesnt fit very well as a republican or a democrat. And before i take him more seriously, he needs to sound more proffessional not some comedian trying to insult every group of people he takes a shot at. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edonis 28,974 Posted March 23, 2016 Share Posted March 23, 2016 2 minutes ago, faysalaaa1 said: Im from Saudi Arabia and I know that ISIS kills muslims too as they bombed many mosques around me.. we all need to make sure we are safe and the US have that right too. How is restricting people to enter the US lead youth into turning into ISIS fighters? it is true that lebanese have their religion on their passport. No. That's an optional thing to disclose your religion. Second off, you being from Saudi Arabia should know, most Muslim youths have an uncertain opinion about how Americans view Middle Eastern people, particularly Muslims. Ostracizing an entire group of people only leads to more, hatred more feelings of "the US hates me because of my faith, they must think that me choosing this faith is evil, etc." which does make them more likely to be influenced in pro-ISIS propaganda. I realize that psychology is a taboo in Saudi Arabia (no offense but it is) but it's very easy to see that a group people who are susceptible to negative feelings are obviously going to have backlash. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ItsTommyBitch 12,640 Posted March 23, 2016 Share Posted March 23, 2016 I'll never NOT be shocked at the absolute mental gymnastics one has to go through to come to such disgusting conclusions and then say "well, it's only logical" or w.e Like, as people here have already stated, its not only a bad solution - it's lazy and it's offensive and maybe more importantly it's impractical and would be ultimately ineffective 私自身もこの世の中も誰もかれもが, どんなに華やかな人生でも, どんなに悲惨な人生でも, いつかは変貌し, 破壊され、消滅してしまう. すべてがもともとこの世に存在しない一瞬の幻想なのだから Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJHolland 12,725 Posted March 23, 2016 Share Posted March 23, 2016 44 minutes ago, GloZell Green said: And I ****ing replied to that point, if you could read. Typical ignorant support of a ban of people who would be trying to escape violence from their country. Classic. But hey, all Muslims are terrorists, right? Keep on supporting your orange colored white supremacist pig Keep think Trump is a white supremacist pig when in reality he's a realist and have fun sucking Hillary's big c*ck because you're a misled liberal. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edonis 28,974 Posted March 23, 2016 Share Posted March 23, 2016 Just now, MJHolland said: Keep think Trump is a white supremacist pig when in reality he's a realist and have fun sucking Hillary's big c*ck because you're a misled liberal. Are you actually serious? It's a shame to have Gaga's icon in your avatar being a Donald trump fan. Tragic. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GloZell Green 11,723 Posted March 23, 2016 Share Posted March 23, 2016 Just now, MJHolland said: Keep think Trump is a white supremacist pig when in reality he's a realist and have fun sucking Hillary's big c*ck because you're a misled liberal. 1. Did I ever say I support Hilary? 2. You're a typical Trumptard, throwing around the same word when you feel threatened by people who disagree with you, hardly sure of what it means, huh? I'd rather be a liberal than whatever the **** you are Lady Gaga | Shakira Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edonis 28,974 Posted March 23, 2016 Share Posted March 23, 2016 I've had a headache and this thread doesn't help. Let me now out lol. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mmm 879 Posted March 23, 2016 Share Posted March 23, 2016 3 minutes ago, Edonis said: No. That's an optional thing to disclose your religion. Second off, you being from Saudi Arabia should know, most Muslim youths have an uncertain opinion about how Americans view Middle Eastern people, particularly Muslims. Ostracizing an entire group of people only leads to more, hatred more feelings of "the US hates me because of my faith, they must think that me choosing this faith is evil, etc." which does make them more likely to be influenced in pro-ISIS propaganda. I realize that psychology is a taboo in Saudi Arabia (no offense but it is) but it's very easy to see that a group people who are susceptible to negative feelings are obviously going to have backlash. From what I know, lebanese faced many problems in the civil war because of their religion in the passport but now that ive searched, they removed this law in 2008. How is psychology a taboo in Saudi Arabia? what are you talking about? Making more strict rules about who enters the country wont make people turn into ISIS fighters.. creating wars ruining countries, homes and families by killing civilians and children is what turn people into ISIS fighters. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mmm 879 Posted March 23, 2016 Share Posted March 23, 2016 10 minutes ago, ItsVenusBitch said: I'll never NOT be shocked at the absolute mental gymnastics one has to go through to come to such disgusting conclusions and then say "well, it's only logical" or w.e Like, as people here have already stated, its not only a bad solution - it's lazy and it's offensive and maybe more importantly it's impractical and would be ultimately ineffective Is there anything in the world that your not offended by? your life must be really miserable. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morphine Prince 109,975 Posted March 23, 2016 Author Share Posted March 23, 2016 Can we not turn these replies personal? Stick to the topic. Let's not have another derailed thread. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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