Lady Gaga "I'm not any color, I'm just me <3"

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1 minute ago, Mast said:

Since when? I do not live in that world that you speak of lmao. If you're not saying insensitive ****, no one would feel the need to tell you you're being ignorant. Plain and simple. It's called respect.

I'm sorry, but are you blind? Look at the benign tweet from the first page. Now look at the whole thread. Tell me, did that simple statement remain just that, a simple statement? People are so sensitive that they blow things out of proportion. This thread is enough evidence of that, looking for offense when none was intended.

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4 minutes ago, hellothing said:

I'm sorry, but are you blind? Look at the benign tweet from the first page. Now look at the whole thread. Tell me, did that simple statement remain just that, a simple statement? People are so sensitive that they blow things out of proportion. This thread is enough evidence of that, looking for offense when none was intended.

No I'm not blind. The fact is that Gaga said something ignorant. People are not being sensitive, they're being aware.

Blame white people for ****ing **** up, not POC who just want systematic racism to stop.

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Just now, Mast said:

No I'm not blind. The fact is that Gaga said something ignorant. People are not being sensitive, they're being aware.

Let's be clear, you got ignorance from a TWEET? Without her even elaborating on her stance on race, I don't think it's fair that you bash her. She wasn't even making a stance Your anger could have been more justified if she was totally ignorant in an interview where she can articulate more but this is a tweet. That, in my opinion just makes all the hate here baseless.

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Just now, hellothing said:

Let's be clear, you got ignorance from a TWEET? Without her even elaborating on her stance on race, I don't think it's fair that you bash her. She wasn't even making a stance Your anger could have been more justified if she was totally ignorant in an interview where she can articulate more but this is a tweet. That, in my opinion just makes all the hate here baseless.

I'm not bashing her tho. I never did. Saying that what she said was ignorant is not bashing her. There is nothing wrong with being ignorant, all it means is that you're not being aware. If there is any sensitivity, it's from people who are told that they are being ignorant and they flip ****.  I'm not angry, so idk why you're telling me I am. If I were angry or if I were bashing her I wouldn't be on this site anymore lmao. 

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6 minutes ago, Mast said:

where? Literally every person in the world is prejudiced, there isn't anyone who is exempt from systematic racism. Is violence against LGBT+ members much more common and severe? Yes, but homophobia not nearly as ingrained as racism is. Racism is an -ism, aka an system with political power.

I'm sorry, but her saying that she is not a color is ignorant, because she is a color, she is white, and she gets privilege from it. Did she not think that critically of her words? Sure, but the point is that she has to be careful with her words when she's in the position that she is. There is no reason for me to believe that Gaga is well-versed on race-issues to the extent that she should be. That's not a bad thing, she just hasn't advocated for it to the point that I think she's woke on race issues. In other words, she obviously didn't have any malicious intents with her words, but that doesn't change the fact that she sounded very ignorant and that wasn't okay.

dobt spread this lie like every major religion doesnt hypnotize people to discourage gay people. Racism is not brainwashed to be unacceptable like homophobia is. Please don't imply it

You picked up she didn't meant this seriously? Good, so did I. But then, why are you taking it seriously?  Let's not act like Gaga isn't woke. Not today sis. Not any day after the Born This Way era. No. And there is no reason for you to believe she's well-versed? That's great, bc she can be knowledgeable and silent, which so great too. Too many people fake it to look good, and say complete bullshit later. 

I love the "forget about race" talk too, but what's needed to be understood, is that the phrase is applied, and needs to be applied to racists first, then, us "SJWs." After all, they're the root of the problem. 

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Just now, Mast said:

I'm not bashing her tho. I never did. Saying that what she said was ignorant is not bashing her. There is nothing wrong with being ignorant, all it means is that you're not being aware. If there is any sensitivity, it's from people who are told that they are being ignorant and they flip ****.  I'm not angry, so idk why you're telling me I am. If I were angry or if I were bashing her I wouldn't be on this site anymore lmao. 

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She needs to be more careful when talking about these sorts of things. After all, she has made awareness of social issues a big part of her brand. 

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1 hour ago, yourfaves said:

Gaga girl.  You're white.  Whether she likes it or not being white has given her an advantage in life and she needs to recognize that.

 

1 hour ago, Lum said:

The fact that she's "not any color" just because she's white is annoying and problematic.

#CheckYourPrivilegeGags

 Really? I'm personally glad she's not letting something like skin colour define her. She's much more than just white. 

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4 minutes ago, ROARyals said:

dobt spread this lie like every major religion doesnt hypnotize people to discourage gay people. Racism is not brainwashed to be unacceptable like homophobia is. Please don't imply it

You picked up she didn't meant this seriously? Good, so did I. But then, why are you taking it seriously?  Let's not act like Gaga isn't woke. Not today sis. Not any day after the Born This Way era. No. And there is no reason for you to believe she's well-versed? That's great, bc she can be knowledgeable and silent, which so great too. Too many people fake it to look good, and say complete bullshit later. 

I love the "forget about race" talk too, but what's needed to be understood, is that the phrase is applied, and needs to be applied to racists first, then, us "SJWs." After all, they're the root of the problem. 

When did I imply it tho? That's not what ingrained means. Ingrained means that it's been preserved, which racism has been.

 

Making a song about being "Born This Way" doesn't make you woke either. Especially not when she used racial slurs there. "Chola" and "Orient". Nope. The day that she speaks about mass incarceration, homeless LGBT youth, and stops endorsing Hillary Clinton, who played a huge role in delaying marriage equality, I will accept her as woke. But not today. Is she more aware than most people? Yes, but that does not make her woke. 

Also, when did I say I wanted to erase race? That's exactly what I don't want to do lmao. Race is too important of a factor in our society for us to pretend there is no dis-proportionality among races. That's why I didn't like Gaga saying that she isn't a color, because she is and she needs to own up to the fact that the system is skewed in her favor.

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Gaga has said that she is European (Italian heritage). So even though Europeans are white by definition, her reluctance to being called "white"(as opposed to European, or even more specifically, Italian) is clearly because the word "white" is politically loaded, whereas terms like European or Italian are not. Gaga is intelligent enough to realise that you should be proud of your heritage (customs, traditions, struggles) but not just your "colour" (which is decided by politics). That I think is what she meant by "colourless".

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I'm just ITALIAN me

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She was just being cute. 

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2 hours ago, yourfaves said:

Gaga girl.  You're white.  Whether she likes it or not being white has given her an advantage in life and she needs to recognize that.

Most people who make a big deal out comments like this are ironically white. 

There's nothing dumber than a bunch of white people acting like moral warriors on behalf of a issue they've probably not experienced (racism). I would listen to what people who are part of those minorities have to say about it, but I'm not here for white people who think they can talk on their behalf. Gaga has never ignored her privileged position in life. A lot of people in this thread need to get of their high horses.  

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2 hours ago, Red said:

I don't want her to talk about any issue that she isn't related with. I mean, one line or another like the "no matter black white..." line in BTW is cute but a whole song about racism would be her most

Isn't Americano about prejudice against Mexicans, gays in Mexico, and immigration? She sings about it but she doesn't get on a soapbox or come off as "profiting off an issue that doesn't affect her." I think it could definitely be done as long as she isn't overzealous/blunt or making it about herself. Worth noting that Born This Way works as an overzealous/blunt point-hammering political song so even that can be done well, then again gaga is pretty accepted as Queen of the Gays but not so much Queen of the POC.

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14 minutes ago, Frankenztein said:

Most people who make a big deal out comments like this are ironically white. 

There's nothing dumber than a bunch of white people acting like moral warriors on behalf of a issue they've probably not experienced (racism). I would listen to what people who are part of those minorities have to say about it, but I'm not here for white people who think they can talk on their behalf. Gaga has never ignored her privileged position in life. A lot of people in this thread need to get of their high horses.  

If you're white and don't speak up, then you're racist for being silent.  If you're white and you speak up you're called an overly sensitive social justice warrior .  I will use my voice to speak up.