somnambulist 1,526 Posted March 12, 2016 Share Posted March 12, 2016 Opinions are fine, nobody should be forced to like something. I'm fine with that. BUT. This fan base has been RUTHLESS to him, and it's the very definition of bandwagoning. Here are some thoughts- 1) DJWS worked on an album that was not only rushed, but poorly promoted and written when gaga was at her lowest. Not only was she fighting her manager, she was writing about very personal things and the music was made to sound messy and dirty. The combination of rushed and dirty just didn't work with a lot of people. This isn't his fault. 2) DJWS worked on songs like Bloody Mary and DWUW- fan favorites to a lot of people, and proves how capable he is with the right material. The production of Bloody Mary is insane. 3) He is experienced and has a personal relationship with her, I think that combination is really important and I fully believe that now gaga is happier, his production will reflect this new confident gaga and sound more polished. Those are my main points, but TL:DR version- a rushed album is hardly a gauge on a producers quality, especially with some other songs having A+ production. Stop being so rude to him! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mariomania1234 11,368 Posted March 12, 2016 Share Posted March 12, 2016 Yeah, I really don't understand the negative stigma attached to him at all. I'm pumped for his work on LG5! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quartz 12,575 Posted March 12, 2016 Share Posted March 12, 2016 I literally saw only five members talking **** about his work. If I'm not mistaken, the backlash came from him asking for likes/followers so that he will make public unreleased material. Getting mad by this petty tactic =/= Getting mad about his skills as a producer. Production wise though, I think the fanbase knows that he is a GOD. Inside, we are really made the same. 🕊 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joemayzin 4,028 Posted March 12, 2016 Share Posted March 12, 2016 I met him at the H&M Times Square event Gaga had when she arrived on the bus, everyone was asking for pictures and he was right in front of me and all I said was "Paul, tremendous job on ARTPOP and previous albums" he smiled gave me a huge hug and said thanks man I really appreciate that! He was so sweet and he must be doing something right if Gaga keeps using him on her albums!!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
iAdrian97 869 Posted March 12, 2016 Share Posted March 12, 2016 Completely agree. He made ARTPOP the amazing album it is. I think people do blame him for ARTPOP not doing well in the charts even though it was mainly her management. Also I hate how fans don't want him near Gaga even when we have seen the great work he's done. Another reason why people probably don't like him is because with redone he produced Gaga's biggest hits and when she tried something new is when it took a downhill turn. Oh well in glad he's making a comeback and the haters will shut up when his song with Gaga goes #1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erich Johnson 2,920 Posted March 12, 2016 Share Posted March 12, 2016 Bloody mary was originally produced by Redone DJWS just redone Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bradley 59,319 Posted March 12, 2016 Share Posted March 12, 2016 This fanbase can sometimes be extremely irrational. They put the blame on a producer whenever something doesn't work out when in fact it can be caused by many other reasons, i.e. poor promotion. Also Gaga is one of the MAIN (not co-) producers of all her songs and fans never put the blame on Gaga but the male producer. With little monsters, it's always the men that have to take the blame, regardless of it being his fault or not. I love ARTPOP and until today I'm still saying it underperformed because Interscope decided to quit promoting it after G.U.Y. so it's nowhere near the producers (DJWS AND GAGA)'s fault. DJWS is one of the nicest and friendliest people in the music industry I've ever seen though. He treats Gaga like a sister and deserves Gaga's love and adoration more than any of us here. Btw, I don't want him on LG5. Not because he can't produce well, but I believe this album to be very different from her previous ones, hence I don't welcome the idea of collaborating with familiar producers. (RedOne is an exception since he was absent on ARTPOP) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GloZell Green 11,723 Posted March 12, 2016 Share Posted March 12, 2016 Everyone who hates him uses a rushed album for evidence of poor production, when in reality it was poor mastering "Overproduction" isn't on ARTPOP, it's defined as an instrumental being louder than vocals, which I don't hear at all Lady Gaga | Shakira Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quartz 12,575 Posted March 12, 2016 Share Posted March 12, 2016 3 minutes ago, Erich Johnson said: Bloody mary was originally produced by Redone DJWS just Redone Inside, we are really made the same. 🕊 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erich Johnson 2,920 Posted March 12, 2016 Share Posted March 12, 2016 The fault of a poorly produced music is of the producer Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STDMNC 368 Posted March 12, 2016 Share Posted March 12, 2016 DJWS is one of the most interactive and thoughtful people close to Gaga, he was there when people turned on her, and for that everyone puts a hoop over his head that says "dump here". Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TropicOfCANCER 6,292 Posted March 12, 2016 Share Posted March 12, 2016 he has a few very well-produced songs, yes, but much of his work on ARTPOP is a MESS. Not here for him being on LG5, sorry. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sorcerer 12,524 Posted March 12, 2016 Share Posted March 12, 2016 Yes. Why blame on the production of individual songs? If you will listen to the ARTPOP songs individually, they are not actually overproduced or messy. The only issue was when the whole album is listened from start to finish, that is when the whole sound compounds up collectively leaving a poorly produced messy music taste. Including the bad promotion and the actual management conflict, the imagery didn't click that much to the GP, that's why it underperformed. The production is not the issue dear. The genre was EDM so deal with it. Also, the only weird productions that DJWS made were JnD and Swine. DWUW and Sexxx Dreams were musically praised. And he helped in Born This Way. Now leave DJWS and let him redefine himself and work with Gaga. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sizzily 14,543 Posted March 12, 2016 Share Posted March 12, 2016 All I want is some more variety in who Gaga works with. It could bring out some spectacular music. Tears in the rain Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Igor Ferreira Giacomini 38 Posted March 12, 2016 Share Posted March 12, 2016 Don't forget the remixes from Schieße, Government Hooker, Judas and Applause Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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