NewYorkCity 10,536 Posted March 2, 2016 Share Posted March 2, 2016 She has success, not impact. There's a huge difference. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
River 117,429 Posted March 2, 2016 Share Posted March 2, 2016 "artist" So sploosh your juice all over me you Riverboy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joshie 748 Posted March 2, 2016 Share Posted March 2, 2016 People can deny all they want. People can fanboy their favs. But if you deny Rihanna's power you're just deluded. Irrational. Dumb. As for the people denying her talent, Christ yeah she ain't no opera singer but the girl can sing. Wake up and smell the coffee babe. Those with their kindergarten arguements like she don't write her music etc. Do you think people listen to the radio and think I'll buy her song cause she wrote it? No they ****ing dont. She sells and she sells far more than your fav so stay pressed and stay on the subject topic. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
venusfly 17,885 Posted March 2, 2016 Share Posted March 2, 2016 2 minutes ago, Joshie said: People can deny all they want. People can fanboy their favs. But if you deny Rihanna's power you're just deluded. Irrational. Dumb. As for the people denying her talent, Christ yeah she ain't no opera singer but the girl can sing. Wake up and smell the coffee babe. She is a very famous musician, she is a very powerful person in the industry, but she is NOT the biggest global artist right now. That title would belong to either Adele or Taylor Swift, maybe Beyoncé but still probably not. Rihanna failed to sell impressively this era, both album and tour sales, because she went her own artistic direction and dropped the manufactured pop beats - this is only evidence the public are not here for her but rather for her pop music. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewYorkCity 10,536 Posted March 2, 2016 Share Posted March 2, 2016 Do you know what shows Rihanna's status? She sells music, she has catchy hits. People are here for her music. But her tours... mess. She just posposed a whole tour to change dates from stadiums to arenas. People like her music (well, it would be more appropiate to call it: the singles she releases. Not her music), but they don't care about her. Ence why she doesn't have any impact besides bops that people like to dance to. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joshie 748 Posted March 2, 2016 Share Posted March 2, 2016 Just now, LG said: She is a very famous musician, she is a very powerful person in the industry, but she is NOT the biggest global artist right now. That title would belong to either Adele or Taylor Swift, maybe Beyoncé but still probably not. Rihanna failed to sell impressively this era, both album and tour sales, because she went her own artistic direction and dropped the manufactured pop beats - this is only evidence the public are not here for her but rather for her pop music. Get back to me when Taylor are on their 8th album. Trends fade, artists fade. She's a household name and has been for a decade. She puts in more creativity through song writing, experimenting with sounds etc for Anti and she still gets bashed. Also your last point; do you think Gaga or any of these other pop bitches would sell **** loads if it wasn't for their pop music? The clue is in pop music. What it clearly shows to me is Rihanna this time around couldn't care about sales but wanted to show musical integrity by going down a different route. Probably for herself. Anti is selling as is Work. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joshie 748 Posted March 2, 2016 Share Posted March 2, 2016 15 minutes ago, NewYorkCity said: Do you know what shows Rihanna's status? She sells music, she has catchy hits. People are here for her music. But her tours... mess. She just posposed a whole tour to change dates from stadiums to arenas. People like her music (well, it would be more appropiate to call it: the singles she releases. Not her music), but they don't care about her. Ence why she doesn't have any impact besides bops that people like to dance to. Her tours are messy? In what sense? Organisation? Hmm Diamonds world tour, her last one btw - broke multiple records. People spent money to go and see Rihanna, funnily enough. How do you measure impact besides bops, sales, sell out tours as a musician? I mean apart from her fashion icon status too. How many platinum singles over how many years does it take for a pop singer to prove their impact? I'm so confused Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
venusfly 17,885 Posted March 2, 2016 Share Posted March 2, 2016 10 minutes ago, Joshie said: Get back to me when Taylor are on their 8th album. Trends fade, artists fade. She's a household name and has been for a decade. She puts in more creativity through song writing, experimenting with sounds etc for Anti and she still gets bashed. Also your last point; do you think Gaga or any of these other pop bitches would sell **** loads if it wasn't for their pop music? The clue is in pop music. What it clearly shows to me is Rihanna this time around couldn't care about sales but wanted to show musical integrity by going down a different route. Probably for herself. Anti is selling as is Work. Rihanna is a household name but she doesn't have the appeal that you think she has. Anti's performance is a clear reminder that she is not the force people thought her to be. I am not bashing her music, I don't hate her music, I don't hate her, I'm just explaining how in my opinion she is definitely not the biggest artist at this point in time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SarahYuko 1,002 Posted March 2, 2016 Share Posted March 2, 2016 13 hours ago, UK Monster said: Biggest artists in each year 2008: Britney Spears 2009: Rihanna/Britney 2010: Lady Gaga 2011: Lady Gaga 2012: Lady Gaga 2013: Lady Gaga 2014: Katy Perry 2015: Taylor Swift/Justin Bieber 2016: Rihanna but gaga is coming back Gaga is still the Queen. And she's coming back! Hopefully she'll stay on top again for years and years. Btw, 2008 (Britney's era) brings back some serious nostalgia. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diamond Heart 4,400 Posted March 2, 2016 Share Posted March 2, 2016 Shes definitely the most widely appealing musician. Im not sure if shes the 'biggest' female artist out there, but shes definitely top 3. Her sales might have declined dramatically with her newest release but that is all down to the mess of the album campaign and the album not being very radio friendly. When/if she comes back with a pure pop album with bops, she will see the success she has seen previously. "GGD IS NOT FOR YOU" - Admin Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joshie 748 Posted March 2, 2016 Share Posted March 2, 2016 12 minutes ago, LG said: Rihanna is a household name but she doesn't have the appeal that you think she has. Anti's performance is a clear reminder that she is not the force people thought her to be. I am not bashing her music, I don't hate her music, I don't hate her, I'm just explaining how in my opinion she is definitely not the biggest artist at this point in time. That's absolutely fine, I would agree that Adele IS the biggest force out there right now but she's fresh. She doesn't have an array of albums, her albums so far have no direction they're very much same but absolute smashes. 7 albums down the line you've gotta change something. Which Rihanna's done and it's still selling. But by the same standards Gaga doesn't have the appeal people like to believe in here then, cause ARTPOP was nothing to brag about, based on performance especially singles. But similarily it wasn't mainstream, much like Anti but I don't believe one experimental album is a sign of appeal based on its sales. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Serendipity 7,821 Posted March 2, 2016 Share Posted March 2, 2016 13 hours ago, Serpentine said: Beyonce is local. Period. P E R I O D I don't know from where you get that thought, but I do recall her selling out stadiums and arenas rather fast even in places like Netherlands, UK in minutes See talent here-->http://bit.ly/2eqeUxK Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Serendipity 7,821 Posted March 2, 2016 Share Posted March 2, 2016 lemme just put something down I don't know what makes you believe that she is the biggest artist in the world, but if you suggest sales, know that even Taylor Swift has outsold her everytime (with the exception of perhaps 2010) Songwriting skills: hmmmm, I don't think she has much, other than some co-writing on ANTi, while even her peers like Britney can write self penned songs completely without any co writer Dancing skills: not bad, but nothing exceptional on the level of Bey, Britney Vocal skills: I'm glad she has improved from here, but even today, they are nothing extraordinary all in all, she may be an icon, but she certainly isn't a legend I'm rather impressed that she has survived so long in the industry and keeps churning out hits See talent here-->http://bit.ly/2eqeUxK Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gardevoir 9,843 Posted March 2, 2016 Share Posted March 2, 2016 14 hours ago, UK Monster said: another threatened Beyonce fan here. Rihanna is legendary already she has been the radio for over a decade in the age we live in this is legendary where there is less and less consistency in everything she has an iconic look she is so popular. There is no reason as to why anyone could say she isn't a legend Well. Did you lost your punctuation? Her act is too young to be considered legendary. Are you even serious? Sugar, spice, and everything nice. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jenniferella 2,774 Posted March 2, 2016 Share Posted March 2, 2016 2 minutes ago, Emigrante said: Well. Did you lost your punctuation? Her act is too young to be considered legendary. Are you even serious? Did you lost ? No no no it can't be you judging his punctuation in that case. "I have been writing LG5 since I was 13" Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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