Beyoncé offered security by Nation of Islam

[Edonis 28,950]

If you don't live in the U.S. You have no idea what the police brutality against black Americans and other minorities is like. You're stalked by cops based on your skin color, profiled because you wear a hijab, or harassed because you're a woman. It's an actual systemic issue that fortunately isn't plaguing all cops but a large portion is. Source: personal experience just a couple of days ago. 

OT: this is completely ridiculous. Protesting a pop star who sang about being proud of their black heritage, and a 25 second total scene of a little boy dancing in front of police with their hands up. It's clear that it's a message for peace (just like when you see campaigns where soldiers lay down their weapons and hold hands with civilians.) it's ridiculous that the reaction like this is happening. 

[SychosSoChic 9,995]

Farrakhan?

To the left, to the left, everything you are in the problematic box to the left.

[Illuminati 15,947]

8 minutes ago, VampireHeart said:

 

So black child dancing in front of cops and raising his hands is an ad for black people to fight against police?  

In what universe?

i know the potential effect of the video is exaggerated by some people but one of the scenes does show her singing on top of a sinking police car which by itself sends quite a message. the dancing child makes police surrender which i assume people interpret in many ways as well. 

[venusian 4,686]

46 minutes ago, MJHolland said:

Beyoncé isn't being criticized for bringing up race issues and starting constructive dialogs. She's being criticized because she glorifies cop killers.

Glorify cop killers all you want, but do not cry about it when the cops decide they won't provide security at your shows. She gets what she deserves. 

 

[MJHolland 12,725]

26 minutes ago, MelbHawker said:

I can't believe that's what you've taken out of Beyonce's 'Formation'. 

Beyonce's causing ZERO damage by incorporating these themes in her music. What's damaging is how many people are turning a blind eye to the issue Beyonce's making a statement on in that video. That's the problem here. 

 

24 minutes ago, VampireHeart said:

 

So black child dancing in front of cops and raising his hands is an ad for black people to fight against police?  

In what universe?

The problem isn't with the song formation or the video formation. It's about her performance of the song at the Super Bowl where she paid tribute to the Black Panthers. Have you guys been living under rocks?

[MJHolland 12,725]

5 minutes ago, venusian said:

 

You're right, only white people can be problematic -- and most DEFINITELY not queen Beyoncé!!! 

Forgive me! *eye roll* 

[Edonis 28,950]

1 minute ago, MJHolland said:

You're right, only white people can be problematic -- and most DEFINITELY not queen Beyoncé!!! 

Forgive me! *eye roll* 

Take a step back from the Internet sis. No one is saying other people other than white ppl can be bad. And where did you get this interpretation from a reaction gif? 

[MJHolland 12,725]

Just now, Edonis said:

Take a step back from the Internet sis. No one is saying other people other than white ppl can be bad. And where did you get this interpretation from a reaction gif? 

So what does Beyoncé have to do for you stans to think she's problematic? She and her dancers endorsed and celebrated an organization that used terror as a political tactic! Like Jesus, if they were around today we'd be calling them terrorists! Isn't that the definition of terrorism? Using blind violence and evoking fear as a means to get your political outcome?!

and the gif was an eye roll and I can interpret facial reactions like a sane person?

[Edonis 28,950]

Just now, MJHolland said:

So what does Beyoncé have to do for you stans to think she's problematic? She and her dancers endorsed and celebrated an organization that used terror as a political tactic! Like Jesus, if they were around today we'd be calling them terrorists! Isn't that the definition of terrorism? Using blind violence and evoking fear as a means to get your political outcome?!

and the gif was an eye roll and I can interpret facial reactions like a sane person?

You're literally interpreting a moving image as someone's stance for whether or not an entire race can be bad or not. 

Furthermore, the Super Bowl performance was representing black power which was a theme taken from the black panthers. Yes, the black panthers weren't that great of an image for equality, etc. but their message of empowerment has been taken into black culture and used commonly today. Her back up dancers wore those hats and natural hair to represent an empowerment to black females (in my opinion) rather than directly saying "We're the new Black Panthers, deal with it". Because if we're going to go that route, Gaga's entire Born This Way Ball intro, etc. that HEAVILY referenced dictatorships and whatnot to tell a story that held themes of equality and liberation. Similar things in mthe opinion. 

[venusian 4,686]

15 minutes ago, MJHolland said:

You're right, only white people can be problematic -- and most DEFINITELY not queen Beyoncé!!! 

Forgive me! *eye roll* 

i literally just posted a gif lmfao. you mad?

[teo 609]

It's not like she's any danger or she's being threatened and it's not like her organizers can't afford private security at her shows...But get that free PR nation of islam(whatever that is lol).
 

[MJHolland 12,725]

46 minutes ago, Edonis said:

You're literally interpreting a moving image as someone's stance for whether or not an entire race can be bad or not. 

Furthermore, the Super Bowl performance was representing black power which was a theme taken from the black panthers. Yes, the black panthers weren't that great of an image for equality, etc. but their message of empowerment has been taken into black culture and used commonly today. Her back up dancers wore those hats and natural hair to represent an empowerment to black females (in my opinion) rather than directly saying "We're the new Black Panthers, deal with it". Because if we're going to go that route, Gaga's entire Born This Way Ball intro, etc. that HEAVILY referenced dictatorships and whatnot to tell a story that held themes of equality and liberation. Similar things in mthe opinion. 

Her dancers and mother were photographed afterwards proudly doing the Black Panther's gang symbol. It was a celebration specifically of the Black Panther thugs. If this wasn't the case, Beyoncé would have come out and corrected what the message of her performance was supposed to be -- but she hasn't because that is exactly what it was.

You can make excuses for Beyoncé all you want, but her performance at the Superbowl was distasteful and destructive to the effort to make the US police force/aggregate society more racially conscious, no matter what her intentions were.

46 minutes ago, venusian said:

i literally just posted a gif lmfao. you mad?

The gif literally had meaning lmfao. You mad?

[Edonis 28,950]

Just now, MJHolland said:

Her dancers and mother were photographed afterwards proudly doing the Black Panther's gang symbol. It was a celebration specifically of the Black Panther thugs. If this wasn't the case, Beyoncé would have come out and corrected what the message of her performance was supposed to be -- but she hasn't because that is exactly what it was.

You can make excuses for Beyoncé all you want, but her performance at the Superbowl was distasteful and destructive to the effort to make the US police force/aggregate society more racially conscious, no matter what her intentions were.

The gif literally had meaning lmfao. You mad?

So I guess when Gaga "glorified dictatorship, persecution, and anarchy" through the use of imagery during the Born This Way ball. I'm not a Beyoncé apologist either. I don't even really like formation and I'm genuinely worried about whether I like the new album or not. But attacking her and labeling her as distasteful and disgraceful is just pathetic really. It's a pop star. Move on. 

[MJHolland 12,725]

1 minute ago, Edonis said:

So I guess when Gaga "glorified dictatorship, persecution, and anarchy" through the use of imagery during the Born This Way ball. I'm not a Beyoncé apologist either. I don't even really like formation and I'm genuinely worried about whether I like the new album or not. But attacking her and labeling her as distasteful and disgraceful is just pathetic really. It's a pop star. Move on. 

The two are no comparable whatsoever. Gaga was depicting those things as evil, Beyonce and her crew here embodying them and celebrating them.

Are you OK? What you're saying really doesn't make much sense.

And it'd not pathetic, what she did was distasteful and a shame to those that risk their lives to make sure everyone is safe. The majority of the policing community are great individuals, yet Beyoncé paints them all with the same brush. I never called her distasteful, I called a singular performance of hers that. And yes she is just a pop star, but her platform is massive and if you think she can't move and shift political discussion you're just plain wrong and ignorant. What she says on a stage like the Superbowl matters, and it matters that she is consecutive on the topic of race, not destructive, divisive, and polarizing like she was (probably all in the name of sales too. After all, she does take pride in "being that b*tch who causes all that conversation"...). 

[MJHolland 12,725]

10 minutes ago, Twisted Shadows said:

Sounds like you see this whole thing one sided. Please, cite your sources. Do black lives matter to you?

All you need to do is watch the news. http://www.breitbart.com/video/2015/09/01/md-sheriff-its-open-season-on-law-enforcement-cops-scared-to-death-to-do-their-job/ (this story was reported almost everywhere, so just one source for you.)

I have an opinion, that doesn't mean I don't see both sides. The other side says the Black Panthers weren't that bad (an awful argument imo) and that Beyonce didn't mean to endorse the terror group, rather to represent black empowerment. My problem with that is that she didn't have to pay tribute to a thug terror group to do so, so I don't buy that whatsoever.

Do I agree with the Black Lives Matter movement? Absolutely not. They're a bully group of obnoxious protesters with no real agenda or goals other that to cause polarity.