UK EU membership referendum

[bionic 50,111]

18 minutes ago, tomsches said:

I'm nervous about this. If the uk left, it would change europe completely

For the better?

[TiphEret 1,320]

Holy fukc but would that mean REALLY leaving like no more agreement like free trade, free circulation and all of that? That's quite intense. I am glad my country does not have to make that decision but for sure if UK leaves it's going to impact the EU anyways. Is UK a founding member of EU though? 

[RAMROD 117,153]

3 minutes ago, TiphEret said:

Holy fukc but would that mean REALLY leaving like no more agreement like free trade, free circulation and all of that? That's quite intense. I am glad my country does not have to make that decision but for sure if UK leaves it's going to impact the EU anyways. Is UK a founding member of EU though? 

No, but they are major member as their economies are one of those that still working aside from Germany.

[TiphEret 1,320]

1 minute ago, RAMROD said:

No, but they are major member as their economies are one of those that still working aside from Germany.

So it would fukc up EU right? Well I don't know what to think if I want them to stay or not. they are so many pros and cons, in a way it would be best for them to stay if they can negotiate some stuff.

[Haroon 49,685]

3 hours ago, MissRebelDolly said:

@Haroon  Are you going to vote? I am just interested

I didn't know this existed until now and I don't know what it is so probably not  

[Melech 9,900]

4 hours ago, Luc said:

That's so soon! Hoping for the best (for the UK to leave).

fixed

[Melech 9,900]

1 hour ago, TiphEret said:

So it would fukc up EU right? Well I don't know what to think if I want them to stay or not. they are so many pros and cons, in a way it would be best for them to stay if they can negotiate some stuff.

i don't think many things would changes. UK takes too much benefits from the EU but gives to few to the EU 

[Melech 9,900]

3 hours ago, RAMROD said:

Hoping UK leave the EU, so that every other nations can follow suit. ???

yeah why not. a weak europe would benefit the world totally

 

[judxs 762]

Part of me wants to vote OUT because I'm bored of important decisions being decided by other countries.
Part of me wants to stay IN out of fear of us failing as an independent country.

I guess I'm all ears until 23rd June.

[TiphEret 1,320]

1 minute ago, Simon said:

i don't think many things would changes. UK takes too much benefits from the EU but gives to few to the EU 

I don't really know to what extent they contribute and to what extent they take so it's hard to imagine, but of course it would create instability and it's not like Europe is doing so well anyway so I think that timing sucks. But it's not a surprise, of course member countries will enjoy EU when the economy is all good but when it's time to stick together because the economy sucks then no one wants to make an effort and I am not just pointing the finger at the UK here.

[Melech 9,900]

Just now, TiphEret said:

I don't really know to what extent they contribute and to what extent they take so it's hard to imagine, but of course it would create instability and it's not like Europe is doing so well anyway so I think that timing sucks. But it's not a surprise, of course member countries will enjoy EU when the economy is all good but when it's time to stick together because the economy sucks then no one wants to make an effort and I am not just pointing the finger at the UK here.

In the end it always be Germany and France trying to solve the things, let's be honest. And UK is usually the one who wants to block everything and complains about every single ****

I'm in general afraid of EU's future. Financial crisis, refugee crisis etc. we might see the end of the EU sooner than we think and I don't think that this is a good thing 

[TiphEret 1,320]

5 minutes ago, Simon said:

In the end it always be Germany and France trying to solve the things, let's be honest. And UK is usually the one who wants to block everything and complains about every single ****

I'm in general afraid of EU's future. Financial crisis, refugee crisis etc. we might see the end of the EU sooner than we think and I don't think that this is a good thing 

Well the UK is indeed quite vocal about what they don't like but it's not like they joined the eurozone and all so I think they want still more independence than France and Germany for example. Honestly I am not sure France is trying to solved anything. And if you have been on the EU website the way they write their policies and goals even for the public to read what it's all about, it's fuking dense, you need a master in EU policies to understand wtf it means. When I did my european volunteering, they sent us a document because we had to fill up this certificate, oh man it was 8 pages of nonsense like literally it was ridiculous how bad the communication was. And I think it contributes to make people uninterested because what they see is only the down side on tv and shiit and the positive aspects or plan of the EU they don't even know what they are...

[SlaeUrAnus 16,111]

I'm voting out.

The only consequence that may hit the UK hard will be the detrimental effect on international business.

[Florian 20,017]

2 hours ago, TiphEret said:

Well the UK is indeed quite vocal about what they don't like but it's not like they joined the eurozone and all so I think they want still more independence than France and Germany for example. Honestly I am not sure France is trying to solved anything. And if you have been on the EU website the way they write their policies and goals even for the public to read what it's all about, it's fuking dense, you need a master in EU policies to understand wtf it means. When I did my european volunteering, they sent us a document because we had to fill up this certificate, oh man it was 8 pages of nonsense like literally it was ridiculous how bad the communication was. And I think it contributes to make people uninterested because what they see is only the down side on tv and shiit and the positive aspects or plan of the EU they don't even know what they are...

France definitely tries to solve things, our economy is EU-oriented. 

The only problem is that the UK are always complaining but they are one of the main reasons why the EU is so weak. The UK have never tried to build a powerful and efficient union with a strong governance.

[TiphEret 1,320]

1 minute ago, Florian said:

France definitely tries to solve things, our economy is EU-oriented. 

The only problem is that the UK are always complaining but they are one of the main reasons why the EU is so weak. The UK have never tried to build a powerful and efficient union with a strong governance.

What do you mean by strong EU governance? Honestly i think each country should still remain quite independent regarding their politics but it's hard to compromise so of course we also have to accept the rules while being part of the EU and I do agree that so far the UK seems to just want one side of the coin.