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1 minute ago, Sizzliy said:

"Why dont he call out his own church for not being true christian instead.."

Honestly, that's what I could decipher from this grammatical car crash.

But I see what you meant now.

Criticizing my grammar wont make you look better.. what I said is clear even with wrong grammar.. and English is not my first language. I was criticizing the church actions and not the religion itself.

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19 minutes ago, faysalaaa1 said:

Criticizing my grammar wont make you look better.. what I said is clear even with wrong grammar.. and English is not my first language. I was criticizing the church actions and not the religion itself.

The pope cannot control the hundred or so horny pedos that are in the Catholic church. Despite what everyone thinks, Catholicism is not a cult where the pope rules over everyone and tells them everything they should do.

Religion, and people's personal actions can be two entirely separate things, and they can be tied together. But just because a dude is at the head of the church, doesn't not mean he rules the people.

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25 minutes ago, faysalaaa1 said:

Stating facts is not defending I actually hate Trump. No its not Racism and weather terrorists will have access by entering with refugees or not doesnt matter because whatever your opinion is on this, its still not racist. The San Bernardino shooting happened because the government did not run a background check on them and thats what Trump is talking about when he says to fix the system and then allow them.

I though I was on your blocked list or whatever you call it? if you cant handle arguing with me, its better if you not reply to this comment or any of my comments in the future.

 

You are not stating any facts. You are inventing things Trump never said to make him look less idiotic and less racist. Sayid Farook was born in Chicago, Illinois. His wife was lawful permanent US resident and they legally bought weapons. And aren't the Republicans against background checks when it comes to their dear guns? Anyone can get them, anytime. That case had nothing to do with refugees. And Trump was talking about TOTAL ban, idk if you know what that means. There are his supporters on this site who supported that ban and you would be on it.

 

I didn't block you, but maybe I should have. You're repeating fabricated statements from someone you "supposedly" hate.

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8 minutes ago, Seeka said:

The pope cannot control the hundred or so horny pedos that are in the Catholic church. Despite what everyone thinks, Catholicism is not a cult where the pope rules over everyone and tells them everything they should do.

Religion, and people's personal actions can be two entirely separate things, and they can be tied together. But just because a dude is at the head of the church, doesn't not mean he rules the people.

The Vatican itself is doing these rape crimes for years and covering it up.. also why is pedophile so high in the catholic church? why doesnt he address these issues instead of calling people for not being a true christian? it is unchristian of him to criticize peoples personal beliefs.

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Just now, faysalaaa1 said:

The Vatican itself is doing these rape crimes for years and covering it up.. also why is pedophile so high in the catholic church? why doesnt he address these issues instead of calling people for not being a true christian? it is unchristian of him to criticize peoples personal beliefs.

That doesn't mean the pope himself is doing it. There are many people in the Vatican who could covered this **** up. And may I remind you this **** has been going on, since like... what the 1980s before most of us were born? And we've been going through popes likes tissues until now?

May I also remind you that this pope has also talked about rampant pedophilia that has been going on in the church.

And I don't think he  is saying that Donald Trump is not a true Christian. he is saying that Donald Trumps beliefs do not match up with Christianity. Just in general, and here's the thing, he's kind of right.

But what the pope fails to recognize is that Trumps entire campaign is ran off of idiocy and fear mongering. And that Donald Trump is an idiot.

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10 minutes ago, VampireHeart said:

 

You are not stating any facts. You are inventing things Trump never said to make him look less idiotic and less racist. Sayid Farook was born in Chicago, Illinois. His wife was lawful permanent US resident and they legally bought weapons. And aren't the Republicans against background checks when it comes to their dear guns? Anyone can get them, anytime. That case had nothing to do with refugees. And Trump was talking about TOTAL ban, idk if you know what that means. There are his supporters on this site who supported that ban and you would be on it.

 

I didn't block you, but maybe I should have. You're repeating fabricated statements from someone you "supposedly" hate.

I wouldnt be on that ban because people supported the ban on muslim refugees from syria.. people from syria are allowed to enter though aslong as they are not refugees.. this is what trump and people who supported than ban talked about.. you cant accuse people of things they deny they said!

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13 minutes ago, faysalaaa1 said:

I wouldnt be on that ban because people supported the ban on muslim refugees from syria.. people from syria are allowed to enter though aslong as they are not refugees.. this is what trump and people who supported than ban talked about.. you cant accuse people of things they deny they said!

 

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http://edition.cnn.com/2015/12/07/politics/donald-trump-muslim-ban-immigration/

 

http://edition.cnn.com/2015/12/07/politics/donald-trump-muslim-travel-ban-rally/index.html

 

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2 hours ago, faysalaaa1 said:

Also Trump said that illegal mexican immigrants are rapist he did not said mexican.. weather thats true or not doesnt matter cause what he said was not racist. Im a Muslim and what he said about Muslims was not racist as he said we must temporarily not allow muslim immigrants (not all muslims) until the US fix the system to make sure who is getting in and then they are allowed to get in and this is exactly what Angela Merkel is doing now witch nobody seem to have a problem with that.

So what? That's not even true. My entire family here are illegal immigrants and there's not a case of rape. Tell me how it's NOT racist? Only tries to bash Mexican/South American immigrants and Muslims. Never have I heard him speak of American rapist, drug addicts and dealers, assassins, etc. all he's doing is trying to strength the white race by taking pathetic jabs at others. He believes his race is superior, I mean, you do realize that he wants the country to be made up of certain races, right? You completely ignore the fact that he said Muslims were celebrating 9/11 in a location even though this ISN'T true! We've talked about Islam, only terrorists would do such a thing! What's the barrier gonna solve? Can Americans not go and kill? I mean it happens on a regular basis, I still fail to see any "good" from these idiotic and pathetic "solutions".

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14 minutes ago, faysalaaa1 said:

This is Donald Trump first official statement from his website about the Muslim ban:
https://www.donaldjtrump.com/press-releases/donald-j.-trump-statement-on-preventing-muslim-immigration

Read the tittle of the statement..

 

That statement is included in the links I gave you.

What is in the title? Did you continue reading? Do you understand what this means "calling for a total and complete shutdown of Muslims entering the United States until our country's representatives can figure out what is going on"? 

There is nothing specific about refugees from Syria. Syria is not even mentioned. 

 also

"Trump campaign manager Corey Lewandowski told CNN on Monday that the ban would apply not just to Muslim foreigners looking to immigrate to the U.S., but also to Muslims looking to visit the U.S. as tourists.

"Everyone," Lewandowski said when asked if the ban would also apply to Muslim tourists."

You are in denial. 

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14 minutes ago, GloZell Green said:

So what? That's not even true. My entire family here are illegal immigrants and there's not a case of rape. Tell me how it's NOT racist? Only tries to bash Mexican/South American immigrants and Muslims. Never have I heard him speak of American rapist, drug addicts and dealers, assassins, etc. all he's doing is trying to strength the white race by taking pathetic jabs at others. He believes his race is superior, I mean, you do realize that he wants the country to be made up of certain races, right? You completely ignore the fact that he said Muslims were celebrating 9/11 in a location even though this ISN'T true! We've talked about Islam, only terrorists would do such a thing! What's the barrier gonna solve? Can Americans not go and kill? I mean it happens on a regular basis, I still fail to see any "good" from these idiotic and pathetic "solutions".

Not agreeing with their solutions doesnt make them racist.. yes they might be idiots if you want but they are not racist. He is not trying to bash Mexicans, he is a republican that wants a safe boarder and he and every American has the right to do that without being accused of racism or white supremacy. He does talk about American problems but he doesnt want illegals to make the country worse than it is. He never said his race is superior or that the country should be make up of certain race!!!!! WTF? 

Yes he did say that a group of muslims did celebrate 9/11 but he did not say muslims did.. he believes that alot of islamic groups are a threat to his country but that still doesnt make him a racist.

12 minutes ago, VampireHeart said:

 

That statement is included in the links I gave you.

What is in the title? Did you continue reading? Do you understand what this means "calling for a total and complete shutdown of Muslims entering the United States until our country's representatives can figure out what is going on"? 

There is nothing specific about refugees from Syria. Syria is not even mentioned. 

 also

"Trump campaign manager Corey Lewandowski told CNN on Monday that the ban would apply not just to Muslim foreigners looking to immigrate to the U.S., but also to Muslims looking to visit the U.S. as tourists.

"Everyone," Lewandowski said when asked if the ban would also apply to Muslim tourists."

You are in denial. 

Trump said himself on interviews that he did not support a total ban on Muslims but only on refugees.. why would I be a denial? I dont support him or the republican party.

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4 minutes ago, faysalaaa1 said:

Not agreeing with their solutions doesnt make them racist.. yes they might be idiots if you want but they are not racist. He is not trying to bash Mexicans, he is a republican that wants a safe boarder and he and every American has the right to do that without being accused of racism or white supremacy. He does talk about American problems but he doesnt want illegals to make the country worse than it is. He never said his race is superior or that the country should be make up of certain race!!!!! WTF? 

Yes he did say that a group of muslims did celebrate 9/11 but he did not say muslims did.. he believes that alot of islamic groups are a threat to his country but that still doesnt make him a racist.

Trump said himself on interviews that he did not support a total ban on Muslims but only on refugees.. why would I be a denial? I dont support him or the republican party.

 

You just posted a statement which calls for total ban.

And your evidence for bolded part is... ?

 

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4 minutes ago, faysalaaa1 said:

Not agreeing with their solutions doesnt make them racist.. yes they might be idiots if you want but they are not racist. He is not trying to bash Mexicans, he is a republican that wants a safe boarder and he and every American has the right to do that without being accused of racism or white supremacy. He does talk about American problems but he doesnt want illegals to make the country worse than it is. He never said his race is superior or that the country should be make up of certain race!!!!! WTF? 

Yes he did say that a group of muslims did celebrate 9/11 but he did not say muslims did.. he believes that alot of islamic groups are a threat to his country but that still doesnt make him a racist.

Trump said himself on interviews that he did not support a total ban on Muslims but only on refugees.. why would I be a denial? I dont support him or the republican party.

Oh I wasn't aware of the fact that getting rid of Latinos and Hispanics wouldn't be getting rid of certain races, but I guess if you say it it MUST be true. He talks about American problems but the only thing he does is blame it on others instead of accepting that legal citizens also contribute to violence and drug trafficking. Saying that illegal immigrants make this country worse is completely ignorant on your part. Sure get rid of the ones who live on a dollar a day and let's see how you like paying over $10 for an orange. 

What would blocking enterance of Muslims do? What ensures him that there's not terrorists or soon to be's here already? 

RACISM:

The belief that all members of each race possess characteristics or abilities specific to that race, especially so as to distinguish it as inferior or superior to another race or races.

I'm yet to hear him say something bad about whites. If he didn't think that Latinos and Hispanics were inferior than he wouldn't propose a mass deportation or talk **** about them.

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5 minutes ago, GloZell Green said:

Oh I wasn't aware of the fact that getting rid of Latinos and Hispanics wouldn't be getting rid of certain races, but I guess if you say it it MUST be true. He talks about American problems but the only thing he does is blame it on others instead of accepting that legal citizens also contribute to violence and drug trafficking. Saying that illegal immigrants make this country worse is completely ignorant on your part. Sure get rid of the ones who live on a dollar a day and let's see how you like paying over $10 for an orange. 

What would blocking enterance of Muslims do? What ensures him that there's not terrorists or soon to be's here already? 

RACISM:

The belief that all members of each race possess characteristics or abilities specific to that race, especially so as to distinguish it as inferior or superior to another race or races.

I'm yet to hear him say something bad about whites. If he didn't think that Latinos and Hispanics were inferior than he wouldn't propose a mass deportation or talk **** about them.


Your argument is about how his politics is stupid but that doesnt mean he is racist! He doesnt want to get rid of Hispanics, he wants to get rid of illegal Hispanics or any other illegals in the country. He doesnt have to criticize whites because he never criticized latinos in the first place. The definition of racism you posted clearly doesnt apply to Trump!

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