Staryu 6,162 Posted February 14, 2016 Share Posted February 14, 2016 So good Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAC 1,942 Posted February 14, 2016 Share Posted February 14, 2016 haha. I love how at the end she is singing crazy in love "uh oh uh oh...." LOL Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AgusPop 4,162 Posted February 14, 2016 Share Posted February 14, 2016 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
llbcherry 591 Posted February 14, 2016 Share Posted February 14, 2016 Perfection Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DietCoke 386 Posted February 14, 2016 Share Posted February 14, 2016 Queens of critiquing U.S. White-centric mentality that involves a large portion of the White community getting extremely uncomfortable when a Black woman in popular media is (rightfully) unapologetically Black Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
StarstruckIllusion 52,924 Posted February 14, 2016 Share Posted February 14, 2016 I can't breathe oh my god Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
StarstruckIllusion 52,924 Posted February 14, 2016 Share Posted February 14, 2016 2 hours ago, Nino said: They're mocking white people as a group, not racists specifically Well so many white racists don't believe theird Racist so… if one hasn't been racist theirself, one would not need to take offends by this, just saying. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRILL MONSTER 1,113 Posted February 14, 2016 Share Posted February 14, 2016 Oh god ....i can already feel the long paragrahs of heated racial debate on this thread Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRILL MONSTER 1,113 Posted February 14, 2016 Share Posted February 14, 2016 Spoke too late i see lol ggd is sooo predictable Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nino 12 Posted February 14, 2016 Share Posted February 14, 2016 3 hours ago, Bebe said: Well great, now we are getting somewhere and I understand where you are coming from. Do you think that white people are void from critiquing racism because of this institutionalised racism? Or is it an issue with how they have approached it? I don't see an issue personally with SNL joking about the ludicrous criticism Beyonce faced and stretching that criticism to it's most ludicrous and hilarious conclusion. I don't see that as contributing to this institutional white supremacy, it seems to me like a very clear criticism of it. I didn't want to have to but let me fully explain why the way this skit was done out was wrong. Firstly I'd like to say I thought it was funny. However, I thought it was a little ridiculous that these white actors and white writers and white directors made it when their very existence as a show that overrepresents white men and regularly plays on racist stereotypes contributes to the problem that Bey is facing. Beyonce for the first time expressed that she's proud of her heritage, being a society that only celebrates white people she faced a massive backlash.This skit has white people playing it off as harmless panic. This isn't harmless white people panicking to themselves. In reality this was real backlash with real consequences, contributing to the social climate that makes it wrong to proud of being black in the first place. They took the largest problem with American society today and undermined it's importance. The way they framed it as a light joke white actors wrote and willingly acted out makes it feel more like a "not all white people" than a "stop white people". There are way to make intelligent satire of racism, in fact SNL makes quite a lot of it, I just thought this specifically was tone deaf. Furthermore these people do NOT have the right to so quickly seperate themselves from racism in the US because they benefit from institutionalized racism whether they want to or not. It's like a rebellious teenager refusing to be a part of a family that feeds and houses them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bebe 17,106 Posted February 14, 2016 Share Posted February 14, 2016 1 minute ago, Nino said: I didn't want to have to but let me fully explain why the way this skit was done out was wrong. Firstly I'd like to say I thought it was funny. However, I thought it was a little ridiculous that these white actors and white writers and white directors made it when their very existence as a show that overrepresents white men and regularly plays on racist stereotypes contributes to the problem that Bey is facing. Beyonce for the first time expressed that she's proud of her heritage, being a society that only celebrates white people she faced a massive backlash.This skit has white people playing it off as harmless panic. This isn't harmless white people panicing to themselves. In reality this was real backlash with real consequences, contributing to the social climate that makes it wrong to proud of being black in the first place. They took the largest problem with American society today and undermined it's importance. The way they framed it as a light joke white actors wrote and willingly acted out makes it feel more like a "not all white people" than a "stop white people". There are way to make intelligent satire of racism, in fact SNL makes quite a lot of it, I just thought this specifically was tone deaf. Furthermore these people do NOT have the right to so quickly seperate themselves from racism in the US because they benefit from institutionalized racism whether they want to or not. It's like a rebellious teenager refusing to be a part of a family that feeds and houses them. Absolutely there is a problem with diversity on SNL and any show. I don't watch SNL at all really, so I can't comment on them playing on 'racist stereotypes' but I'm sure that it's true. "Beyonce for the first time expressed that she's proud of her heritage, being a society that only celebrates white people she faced a massive backlash" Absolutely. Which is terrible. "This skit has white people playing it off as harmless panic. This isn't harmless white people panicing to themselves. In reality this was real backlash with real consequences, contributing to the social climate that makes it wrong to proud of being black in the first place. They took the largest problem with American society today and undermined it's importance. The way they framed it as a light joke white actors wrote and willingly acted out makes it feel more like a "not all white people" than a "stop white people"." Well thanks for taking the time to write this. I can definitely see your point of view. I'm not sure I really took this as a "Not all white people" sort of thing if I'm honest. It still looks like a criticism of "White America" to me. It still makes it look like any of the criticism and backlash Beyonce faced was absolutely ridiculous and seemed to play heavily on concepts of white privilege. I also think they made fun of stereotypes and basically positioned any of the stupid criticism Beyonce faces as absurd and idiotic. And let's face it, yes the sort of criticism Beyonce faced does have negative and awful consequences but the criticisms thrown at her are absolutely absurd and idiotic which I think SNL did a great job at pointing out. You say that this was framed as a "light joke" and that in the past SNL has made intelligent satire of racism. I suppose my point would be that certain topics naturally differ in tone. You wouldn't expect a skit on Beyonce to have the same tone as a skit on police brutality. I think that SNL did a relatively good job of dispelling and confronting racial stereotypes and white concepts of what blackness is. This joke around the surprise that Beyonce was "black", or the surprise when the white woman's co-worker is black while saying "Well obviously he is black" when referencing a black man dressed as a rapper, seemed to me like they were challenging white concepts of what it means to be black. The scene where the white woman screams that her daughter has turned black from listening to Beyonce seems to be challenging the idea that you can't be racist if you 'have black friends'. As for separating themselves from racism, I think that's hard to say from this skit alone. I don't think that they were separating themselves like "I don't benefit from racism, I don't benefit from privilege". I think it's possible to make a skit like this and still be very aware that you are not separate from those very same racial power structures that you are critiquing. There is no way for a white person to separate themselves from the privilege they possess, it's not possible but I also think that it's possible to critique your own position of privilege. I mean, was it the absolute best satire of racial power structures? No, of course not. I just don't think it was terrible and I don't see it as offensive. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dawson 9,490 Posted February 14, 2016 Share Posted February 14, 2016 I love Kate Mckinnon so much. Seriously good SNL sketch Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GagaMyBlood95 9,915 Posted February 14, 2016 Share Posted February 14, 2016 Okay I laughed so hard while watching this lmao it's so good Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewYorkCity 10,536 Posted February 14, 2016 Share Posted February 14, 2016 omg I am literally screaming Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry 26,836 Posted February 14, 2016 Share Posted February 14, 2016 Omg this is amazing... And what's even more amazing is that certain white people are annoyed by it Love it Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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