Riot Poof 2,236 Posted February 14, 2016 Share Posted February 14, 2016 2 hours ago, amenvodka said: Fun fact: The first part of Flawless AKA "Bow Down" is not about feminism or equality. It's about all y'all corny ass haters that still go on ATRL and GagaDaily every day getting fumed up about her being recognized for the 20+ years of tears, sweat, blood and hard work into her career to get to the point where she was at the moment and then try to delegitimize her as "overrated", "predictable" or saying "all she does is sing live and dance well all the time, i don't get the big deal about people liking actual talent!" in addition to the crapton of people saying the only reason she's commercially successful and critically lauded is because she's black and got the "priviliged minority" treatment (which is messed up in so many ways considering that she was basically controlled and trained like a dog DAY AND NIGHT by her father from age 5 til age 17 and as a result suffered from severe depression and burn outs throughout the entire span of her career). It's about the likes of people that have nothing better to do than go up on an online forum, project their own insecurities on superstars, think they'll become more likeable/popular by throwing shade and being an asshole because they have an oh so edgy opinion and cheer on a massive homophobic, transphobic, racist and misogynist bigot just for her talking smack about somebody they despise. Y'all better APPRECIATE this free education! Sh¡t, this post even educated me, someone who's been defending Beyoncé and "Formation" these past couple of days... I'm not a woman. I'm not a man. I am something that you'll never understand. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Temptation 11,209 Posted February 14, 2016 Share Posted February 14, 2016 1 hour ago, Cerny said: Fine, but her latest album recieved critical acclaim so there's people who's here for Azealia Banks the rapper/artist, who can separate her music/art from her attitude. Azaelia deserves to say what she wants because she is talented. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
arthurhmangum 4,408 Posted February 14, 2016 Share Posted February 14, 2016 I couldn't agree more. This song is trash. It has superficial one dimensional lyrics, and it's just typical hyping oneself up to make yourself better than others. (I will probably only like listening to the song if I'm feeling myself, which isn't very often). Stressed, depressed, but well dressed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nikola 4,342 Posted February 14, 2016 Share Posted February 14, 2016 ohhh this is gonna be messy I've got an "F" and a "C" and I got a "K" too And the only thing that is missing is a bitch like "U" Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stephen 30,266 Posted February 14, 2016 Share Posted February 14, 2016 Maybe I'm wrong but I feel like none of you are getting her point I'm pretty sure she's talking about Bow Down/Flawless, in which Beyonce tells people who dream of being like her to bow down, i.e. less successful artists. Remember, B as of recent years has been viewed as an untouchable, undisputed queen. But now after she's decided to be pro-black with Formation and her Super Bowl performance, she got a lot of backlash from white America. Azealia's saying it's karma for shitting on less successful girls earlier. I don't really agree with her statement but at least understand what she's saying before you jump on her. She's not criticizing Formation. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RAMROD 104,202 Posted February 14, 2016 Share Posted February 14, 2016 Bye, she betta focus on releasing TBB soon than delaying it more (ノ◕ヮ◕)ノ✧*:・゚ 𝒬𝓊𝑒𝑒𝓃 𝓃𝑒𝓋𝑒𝓇 𝒸𝓇𝓎 (*´艸`*) ♡♡♡ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Juvi 1,639 Posted February 14, 2016 Share Posted February 14, 2016 9 hours ago, VenusOddity said: you should stop watching FOX news, hun i live in germany, i don't watch your shitty ass american chanels that are full of bulls**t & lies, what i wrote was just my opinion! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
teenagechrist 2,853 Posted February 14, 2016 Share Posted February 14, 2016 Cool, now release The Big Big Beat feeling so hot tamale Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kayla 7,595 Posted February 14, 2016 Share Posted February 14, 2016 15 hours ago, DominicB said: Formation is a stupid song, to be honest. As someone who grew up and who's family is from New Orleans, that video was self centered and stereotypical as ****. I've never agreed with Azealia more. Is being self-centered actually a bad thing, though? Beyonce is confident, but she also backs it up with talent and charitable acts. She didn't just use New Orleans imagery for a song, she helped create The Survivor Foundation to help Katrina victims. Also, in The Blacker the Berry by Kendrick Lamar says: "My hair is nappy, my **** is big, my nose is round and wide" "eat watermelon, chicken, and Kool-Aid on weekdays Or jump high enough to get Michael Jordan endorsements Or watch BET cause urban support is important" - Bringing that up to show that people use obvious, sometimes stereotypical, imagery in songs to make their points. 13 hours ago, Lord Temptation said: Dear Lance, Formations music video is cliche, after cliche, after cliche. Beyonce on a car in flooded waters, wearing of white clothes vs black clothiers, Southern Gothic. There is no subtlety or complexity. Everything is obvious and straightforward. I think that's the intention, though. She wanted it to be unmistakably a song and video praising very recognizable aspects of black culture. Messages of appreciation don't need to be hidden behind symbolism- sometimes it's better to be obvious and straightforward. Hell, Gaga did it with Born This Way. That song was extremely straightforward and obvious, because she wanted to point-blank say "You deserve respect," without burying it under symbolism. 11 hours ago, littlemonsterwo said: I couldn't agree more. This song is trash. It has superficial one dimensional lyrics, and it's just typical hyping oneself up to make yourself better than others. (I will probably only like listening to the song if I'm feeling myself, which isn't very often). Being superficial and having one dimensional lyrics doesn't mean something is trash, though. Is Just Dance trash? Not liking it is one thing, but labeling something as trash just because you don't personally like it is a bit of a stretch. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andreyw 4,285 Posted February 14, 2016 Share Posted February 14, 2016 Formation is bull**** /endthread Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edonis 28,624 Posted February 14, 2016 Share Posted February 14, 2016 13 hours ago, Cerny said: Fine, but her latest album recieved critical acclaim so there's people who's here for Azealia Banks the rapper/artist, who can separate her music/art from her attitude. In pretty much every review people have given praise to her art but also dragged her for her personality as well because in hip-hop and rap, your personality is supposed to be expressed in your music. Unlike other genres, hip hop is meant to be completely authentic and personal. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
arthurhmangum 4,408 Posted February 14, 2016 Share Posted February 14, 2016 58 minutes ago, Kayla said: Is being self-centered actually a bad thing, though? Beyonce is confident, but she also backs it up with talent and charitable acts. She didn't just use New Orleans imagery for a song, she helped create The Survivor Foundation to help Katrina victims. Also, in The Blacker the Berry by Kendrick Lamar says: "My hair is nappy, my **** is big, my nose is round and wide" "eat watermelon, chicken, and Kool-Aid on weekdays Or jump high enough to get Michael Jordan endorsements Or watch BET cause urban support is important" - Bringing that up to show that people use obvious, sometimes stereotypical, imagery in songs to make their points. 58 minutes ago, Kayla said: Being superficial and having one dimensional lyrics doesn't mean something is trash, though. Is Just Dance trash? Not liking it is one thing, but labeling something as trash just because you don't personally like it is a bit of a stretch. I like the song. It's just the little superficial, self-centered lyrics here and there that are kind of off putting and annoying to me. Stressed, depressed, but well dressed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
yes and 4,884 Posted February 14, 2016 Share Posted February 14, 2016 lol Did you think I'd show up in a limousine? No Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blueskye 1,087 Posted February 14, 2016 Share Posted February 14, 2016 1 hour ago, Kayla said: Is being self-centered actually a bad thing, though? Beyonce is confident, but she also backs it up with talent and charitable acts. She didn't just use New Orleans imagery for a song, she helped create The Survivor Foundation to help Katrina victims. Also, in The Blacker the Berry by Kendrick Lamar says: "My hair is nappy, my **** is big, my nose is round and wide" "eat watermelon, chicken, and Kool-Aid on weekdays Or jump high enough to get Michael Jordan endorsements Or watch BET cause urban support is important" - Bringing that up to show that people use obvious, sometimes stereotypical, imagery in songs to make their points. I think that's the intention, though. She wanted it to be unmistakably a song and video praising very recognizable aspects of black culture. Messages of appreciation don't need to be hidden behind symbolism- sometimes it's better to be obvious and straightforward. Hell, Gaga did it with Born This Way. That song was extremely straightforward and obvious, because she wanted to point-blank say "You deserve respect," without burying it under symbolism. Being superficial and having one dimensional lyrics doesn't mean something is trash, though. Is Just Dance trash? Not liking it is one thing, but labeling something as trash just because you don't personally like it is a bit of a stretch. Thank you for adding some sense into this tragic thread. It seems to me that it's fine for the people in this thread when Gaga's lyrics are literal (and sometimes messy), but when Bey does it it's a whole new story. Remember the interview when Gaga mentions how people would say to her "oh the lyrics are so literal" and she's like "well... yea ." Don't know what you guys are expecting, maybe you would be happier if she went back to singing about Single Ladies or Jumpin' Jumpin' in the club. The Bey bashing on GGD is beyond rediculous at this point. Get a new hobby. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lordgagx 5,466 Posted February 14, 2016 Share Posted February 14, 2016 Stop the drama. Start the music. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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