Protestors to Host Anti-Beyonce Rally at NFL Headquarters

[Whispering 18,865]

Just now, VampireHeart said:

I didn't compare them to KKK, I was giving an example because the one I was talking to said Beyonce is promoting a terror organization and racist group. And I'm pretty sure he wouldn't label KKK as terror organization nor does he have issue with their rallies. And this wasn't even a rally, it was very vague imagery or even a reach by the media.

And sorry it doesn't make sense to you, but it makes sense to me and some others when I spoke about hypocrisy of these protestors. You keep ignoring that part, that they are the ones who don't mind to offend minorities and they're whining about everyone being too PC, but then this small thing offends them. That is the double standard.

I'm not gonna repeat myself. Sorry if you don't get it.

It doesn't make sense in the realm of free speech. 

The protestors are protesting because they don't agree with what was shown over the airwaves to millions of households. It is as simple as that. I have no idea what all these people are thinking, as I haven't talked to each one of them individually...but I will say that hypocrisy is on all sides. People typically speak out against something that bothers them personally, but then ignore the things that don't bother them. That's pretty much human nature and can be found in the majority of all groups of protestors. The double standard is judging them differently. 

[MJHolland 12,725]

43 minutes ago, VampireHeart said:

(this is when he left NOI and converted to Islam)

 

 

interesting comment under this article

http://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/beyonce-super-bowl-dancers-black-panther-outfits_us_56b7f877e4b04f9b57da1cfe

"Jane Casler

 

I was in my early 20s in the late 60s. I am white. I joined SNCC. My impression though was that the Panthers were violent thugs who were exploiting the black power movement. I remember them with their guns, rhetoric about fighting the "pigs," etc. Beyonce's performance at the Super Bowl prompted me to research the history of the Panthers. As a result, now I wonder, did I drink the coolaid?I never knew about CoinIntel, J. Edgar Hoover's unsavory tactics to destroy the Panthers. I am writing this in the midst of the current Black Lives Matter movement and the police killings of unarmed blacks; police and government coverups of video evidence of a policeman murdering a black teenager; a black child with a toy gun gunned down within seconds by a police officer, a young black woman brutalized by a police officer at a routine traffic stop (and her subsequent suicide while in jail), and the criminal poisoning of the mostly black population in Flint, MI by state and EPA officials. Perhaps I did drink the coolaid nearly 50 years ago. From here on in, my views will not be "taught to me" by the media and the government. I love my country. But I will never drink the coolaid from here on in. I will seek out the truth.

 

 

"In October of 1966, in Oakland California, Huey Newton and Bobby Seale founded the Black Panther Party for Self-Defense. The Panthers practiced militant self-defense of minority communities against the U.S. government, and fought to establish revolutionary socialism through mass organizing and community based programs."

wiki

 

Ideology

Black nationalism (early)

Maoism

Anti-capitalism

Anti-fascism

Anti-imperialism

Marxism–Leninism

Revolutionary socialism

Anti-racism

Political position

Far-left

 

You're right. We should respect the history of a man and an organization that promoted terror as a legitimate mean to gain political capital because some b*tch at the super bowl made it look cool.

Give. Me. A. Break.

[Arizonadream777 184]

4 hours ago, VampireHeart said:

 

"Are you offended as an American that Beyoncé pulled her race-baiting stunt at the Superbowl?"

 

nnn  

No I'm offended that the KKK is allowed to promote hate when they have there rally, yet Beyoncé gets raked over the coals when she is making a valid statement.

 

[UDO 35]

the black panthers were a racist terror group who killed a lot of people, sometimes they bombed buildings, shot people etc.  I think having a rally at NFL headquarters is a great thing and they should do a lot more than that.  imagine if beyonce was white and she did something like this.

[River 117,803]

I read 5 ****ing pages...

one thing.. I'm tired of the fascistic left wing..

 

I don't see any problem with those protestors, it's wrong to shut them up just because they are white..

It's really became a crime to be a white now.. so sad what's going on here..

I'm tired that every second someone throwing the racism card.. usually those are the most racist people.. they are just leeching into a minority and faking the "oh I will save them" to promote their hate and racism in a fake left and humanitarian way..

 

[FlopSlurper 34,336]

Reductive

 

[DeleteMyAccount 11,881]

'Murica!

[NewYorkCity 10,536]

idk, I am just enjoying that the blackash goes to someone else for once  And that being the un-touchable Beyonce makes it more interesting.

[lego 44,165]

38 minutes ago, UDO said:

the black panthers were a racist terror group who killed a lot of people, sometimes they bombed buildings, shot people etc.  I think having a rally at NFL headquarters is a great thing and they should do a lot more than that.  imagine if beyonce was white and she did something like this.

Why is this coming mostly from Trump fanboys?

 

 

 

25 minutes ago, River said:

I read 5 ****ing pages...

one thing.. I'm tired of the fascistic left wing..

 

I don't see any problem with those protestors, it's wrong to shut them up just because they are white..

It's really became a crime to be a white now.. so sad what's going on here..

I'm tired that every second someone throwing the racism card.. usually those are the most racist people.. they are just leeching into a minority and faking the "oh I will save them" to promote their hate and racism in a fake left and humanitarian way..

 

If you read 5 pages, quote who said that white people should shut up and not be able to protest. I missed that.

The ones who pulled racism card are these same protestors. They call Beyonce a cop hater and a racist for having "stop shooting us" graffiti in her video and for having dancers wearing afro and berets.

They are offended. 

[SEVDALIZA 1,274]

5 hours ago, MJHolland said:

You're right. We should respect the history of a man and an organization that promoted terror as a legitimate mean to gain political capital because some b*tch at the super bowl made it look cool.

Give. Me. A. Break.

um.

29 minutes ago, NewYorkCity said:

idk, I am just enjoying that the blackash goes to someone else for once  And that being the un-touchable Beyonce makes it more interesting.

please do not reduce an issue as big as this to a mere stan war. it goes way beyond that.

[MJHolland 12,725]

7 minutes ago, Lil Alex said:

um.

please do not reduce an issue as big as this to a mere stan war. it goes way beyond that.

Don't @ me if you have nothing to say?

[DiscoHeaven23 35,007]

I think some white people like to claim successful people of other races as their own. "Well, she's really talented and successful so she's one of us" And i think they've gotten extremely butt hurt that this amazingly talented woman decided to express her blackness. 

 

[jojuun 4,159]

Wow the racism is sooooo alive in this thread. Beyonce really is that bitch to cause all this conversation...

[Kayla 7,595]

21 hours ago, LoveandMagic said:

I was raised by police officers, so I've already expressed my feelings about similar issues and don't have the energy to repeat myself, but I will say I checked out her lyrics for Formation (didn't see the show, haven't seen the video), and there isn't anything anti-cop about them. There's some line about "albino alligators" that could be a metaphor for something, but other than that I don't really see what the big deal is. If she wants to bring attention the issue of corruption, I'm all for that. I'm getting tired of all the good cops (of which there are a great many) getting trashed and lumped in with those assholes that have no business wearing a badge (and probably need psychiatric help). 

The albino alligator was referencing a movie http://www.huffingtonpost.com/jessica-bolanos-/11-references-you-missed-in-beyonces-formation_b_9196612.html

""I twirl all my haters...Albino alligators" -- Ever seen the movie? With the police standoff? If so, you'll probably remember the reference to alligators using an albino among them as a sacrifice to distract opposing alligators, who then become prey. Bey is seen twirling an umbrella in her white corset here. Like an alligator death roll-- #slay. She sacrifices herself constantly to get the conversations going. Bravo haters. We all have our role."

 

17 hours ago, Whispering said:

When minorities get offended, they take to the streets or social media. They protest. They let people know that they were offended. They have every right to do so...just like the people upset with the halftime show have the right to speak out.

Free speech is not protected in the private sector, which includes all forms of entertainment. The NFL might have no problem with an artist wearing a KKK hood, but because they are broadcasting that into people's homes, the FCC is involved. There are rules and guidelines over what can be shown. Also, because they broadcast to individual homes, they are open for criticism, boycotts, etc. 

When minorities are offended and take the streets or go to social media it's usually when one of their own, including children, have been shot, held to the ground by police at a pool party, suspiciously rejected, etc. People are protesting Beyonce because her dancers had outfits that resembled the Black Panthers. Huge difference. (And yes- there are the "Miley wore box braids- I'm offended!" crowd online which I don't mean to disregard)

Also keep in mind that people are up in arms about how violent the BP were, but fail to also mention that such violence came in response to police brutality and rampant inequality. People wanna preach about how referencing the BP is wrong because they were violent, as if their violence was created in a world where they shouldn't have felt the need to fight for themselves. The fact that they used tactics that were ethically wrong trumps the fact that those tactics came in response to wrong treatment they'd been receiving for decades, and I think that's bogus. 

I'm not supporting the violent things the BP did, for the record. Just pointing out it's bothersome, imo, to criticize the BP for being violent but not make note of WHY they acted out in such ways. Like BP being violent = bad, but let's not talk about how violent the police were to black people, and how unfair the societal system was, which is what started the whole movement in the first place?

 

[Whispering 18,865]

3 hours ago, Kayla said:

 

When minorities are offended and take the streets or go to social media it's usually when one of their own, including children, have been shot, held to the ground by police at a pool party, suspiciously rejected, etc. People are protesting Beyonce because her dancers had outfits that resembled the Black Panthers. Huge difference. (And yes- there are the "Miley wore box braids- I'm offended!" crowd online which I don't mean to disregard)

Also keep in mind that people are up in arms about how violent the BP were, but fail to also mention that such violence came in response to police brutality and rampant inequality. People wanna preach about how referencing the BP is wrong because they were violent, as if their violence was created in a world where they shouldn't have felt the need to fight for themselves. The fact that they used tactics that were ethically wrong trumps the fact that those tactics came in response to wrong treatment they'd been receiving for decades, and I think that's bogus. 

I'm not supporting the violent things the BP did, for the record. Just pointing out it's bothersome, imo, to criticize the BP for being violent but not make note of WHY they acted out in such ways. Like BP being violent = bad, but let's not talk about how violent the police were to black people, and how unfair the societal system was, which is what started the whole movement in the first place?

 

Those are extreme cases. I really wasn't referencing the marches and riots in Ferguson and Baltimore. I was referring to protests against policies or something else in entertainment...like the Oscars, which is why I also stated that minorities also use social media also to express their displeasure. 

I actually think that few people on the side of Beyonce's team even considered the violence of the Black Panthers. They just looked at it as a symbol to use to make a statement during the Super Bowl. I sincerely doubt it was even Beyonce's idea or that she was trying to promote violence of any kind. You can't really dress up like an MLK marcher, so the outfit of the BPs was an available symbol. I don't think she thought through it too much, tbh, or that her intent was to promote violence. 

For the record, there are two current opinions I have on this whole issue. (Current, because I could change my mind, with more information) I believe this whole protest is silly and useless. If people were offended by the presentation to a great extent, they should use social media as an outlet to express their feelings or they should write letters and place calls to the NFL and the network. Secondly, personally I don't want to see the halftime show becoming politicized. I'm not against the message, but I don't want to see the halftime entertainment become a time to protest. That's just my personal feelings, but it doesn't mean I'm going to take to the streets over entertainment that I can simply turn off. (IF one year, I didn't agree with the message, which WASN'T my feelings this year!)