Gianni Versace 2,987 Posted February 6, 2016 Author Share Posted February 6, 2016 1 minute ago, Tropico said: he never mentioned racism.... Wyd? If you got racism for black woman, that's a reflection of you. "people just unsettled that a black woman is so comfortable in her own skin that she sings about her confidence/sexuality etc" he added black in to try and make a statement that somehow me not liking the song means that i don't like when black woman (what he wrote) are confident with their sexuality etc y'all are a damn mess Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tropico 4,145 Posted February 6, 2016 Share Posted February 6, 2016 Just now, Gianni Versace said: "people just unsettled that a black woman is so comfortable in her own skin that she sings about her confidence/sexuality etc" he added black in to try and make a statement that somehow me not liking the song means that i don't like when black woman (what he wrote) are confident with their sexuality etc y'all are a damn mess Again, he never said that. He pointed out that Beyonce was black but everything else you pulled out of thin air. Your argument is quickly decaying and it's showing. Your attempt to make it seem like he is the one doing the most is odd, to say the least. ♢ Social Justice Enthusiast ♢ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gianni Versace 2,987 Posted February 6, 2016 Author Share Posted February 6, 2016 1 minute ago, Tropico said: Again, he never said that. He pointed out that Beyonce was black but everything else you pulled out of thin air. Your argument is quickly decaying and it's showing. Your attempt to make it seem like he is the one doing the most is odd, to say the least. because why did he need to put that in there unless her being black was some sort of factor in my not liking her? y'all are a damn mess i have 0 respect for the hive and you stuck your lil irrelevant head in this argument when it clearly has nothing to do with you, you deserve these lashings! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tropico 4,145 Posted February 6, 2016 Share Posted February 6, 2016 1 minute ago, Gianni Versace said: because why did he need to put that in there unless her being black was some sort of factor in my not liking her? y'all are a damn mess i have 0 respect for the hive and you stuck your lil irrelevant head in this argument when it clearly has nothing to do with you, you deserve these lashings! These are "lashings"? Yikes. However will I live knowing that I was publicly embarrassed in this SMASH thread with a total to five pages, with most posts being your own. The horror! ... I simply contributed to a PUBLIC discussion. If you don't like that happening, I recommend you PM people instead of posting it in a public thread. ♢ Social Justice Enthusiast ♢ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry 26,836 Posted February 6, 2016 Share Posted February 6, 2016 4 minutes ago, Gianni Versace said: i laughed it off because it's completely absurd lmao what a wild assumption Rihanna is my favorite artist (right along with Gaga) and she sings about her sexuality/confidence all the time, hell, Needed Me is my favorite song from ANTi beyonce seems so insecure Again, it wasn't an assumption. If you read, it was a question and the black part was a small aspect of what I was getting at. Getting so defensive about it did you no favours. Plus it wasn't aimed at you specifically in general otherwise I would've quoted you, I was thinking out loud and questioning all the people in this thread that are calling her egotistical, saying she's overly sexual, loves herself too much or whatever. Like why didn't you just say this in the first place instead of just laughing which is the weakest possible response in a discussion like this You could've just replied with what you just said. Why's it okay for Rihanna to be confident but not Beyonce? Never heard anyone call her insecure before, I'd love to know why she seems that way to you. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry 26,836 Posted February 6, 2016 Share Posted February 6, 2016 4 minutes ago, Gianni Versace said: because why did he need to put that in there unless her being black was some sort of factor in my not liking her? y'all are a damn mess i have 0 respect for the hive and you stuck your lil irrelevant head in this argument when it clearly has nothing to do with you, you deserve these lashings! Lmao I'm sorry that you completely missed the point even though I've told you what I meant. I'm also sorry that it's still the only part you're focusing on. You're the only one that's so set on talking about the racial aspect, I literally brought it up as a passing thought I don't even know what race you are, nor was that post quoted at you. So I'm not sure why it has bothered you so much. "The hive"? I'm not a stan I've never so much as purchased one of her albums, even though I have huge respect for her and love a lot of her work. It's possible to discuss something objectively without being a stan or hater. I don't get why the personal comments are necessary... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gianni Versace 2,987 Posted February 6, 2016 Author Share Posted February 6, 2016 6 minutes ago, Harry said: Why's it okay for Rihanna to be confident but not Beyonce? Never heard anyone call her insecure before, I'd love to know why she seems that way to you. again, pulling arguments out of your ass? where did i say this at all? god i swear you're making opposing arguments just to find something to bitch about lf=asdndK; Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gianni Versace 2,987 Posted February 6, 2016 Author Share Posted February 6, 2016 6 minutes ago, Harry said: Lmao I'm sorry that you completely missed the point even though I've told you what I meant. I'm also sorry that it's still the only part you're focusing on. You're the only one that's so set on talking about the racial aspect, I literally brought it up as a passing thought I don't even know what race you are, nor was that post quoted at you. So I'm not sure why it has bothered you so much. "The hive"? I'm not a stan I've never so much as purchased one of her albums, even though I have huge respect for her and love a lot of her work. It's possible to discuss something objectively without being a stan or hater. I don't get why the personal comments are necessary... why are you still trying it? you don't have a personal life? i don't like this song. period. the fact you're trying to perpetuate the argument by continuously putting words in my mouth is a good indication that you have TEW much free time lmao Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry 26,836 Posted February 6, 2016 Share Posted February 6, 2016 Just now, Gianni Versace said: again, pulling arguments out of your ass? where did i say this at all? god i swear you're making opposing arguments just to find something to bitch about lf=asdndK; Lmao there's really no point in this conversation if you're unable to discuss without being so needlessly rude everytime someone questions something you said. If I was coming from the wrong end you could just tell me and answer without being such an ass every single time, is that so difficult for you? Why is Beyonce 'egotistical' but Rihanna is just 'confident'? I didn't pull anything out my ass nor is it an argument. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gianni Versace 2,987 Posted February 6, 2016 Author Share Posted February 6, 2016 9 minutes ago, Tropico said: These are "lashings"? Yikes. However will I live knowing that I was publicly embarrassed in this SMASH thread with a total to five pages, with most posts being your own. The horror! ... I simply contributed to a PUBLIC discussion. If you don't like that happening, I recommend you PM people instead of posting it in a public thread. lmao @ you counting page numbers now. time 2 log out sweetie! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MGC 226 Posted February 6, 2016 Share Posted February 6, 2016 43 minutes ago, Harry said: Where is it prescribed what an artist is "supposed" to be? None of this type of music takes away from how good her voice is and I'm sure she'll use it on the album. Everyone knows she's an amazing vocalist but maybe she doesn't want to be tied down to that sole identity, maybe she wants to do more than that. I'm sorry, my English is quite bad. She isn't supposed, it's better to say that she has all the skills to do that Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry 26,836 Posted February 6, 2016 Share Posted February 6, 2016 1 minute ago, Gianni Versace said: why are you still trying it? you don't have a personal life? i don't like this song. period. the fact you're trying to perpetuate the argument by continuously putting words in my mouth is a good indication that you have TEW much free time lmao Yikes We're both still here so I'm guessing neither of us have persona lives. The only difference is I'm discussing something I like and you're discussing something that you don't like, go figure... I know you don't like the song and I don't care about that. It's just a conversation. But I know some stans simply lack the capability to hold one of those without resorting to the usual tactics so maybe I'll just stop now because I can't deal with the second hand embarrassment... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry 26,836 Posted February 6, 2016 Share Posted February 6, 2016 2 minutes ago, MGC said: I'm sorry, my English is quite bad. She isn't supposed, it's better to say that she has all the skills to do that Fair enough, no need to apologise. I get what you mean now. I'm sure she will continue to use those skills even though she doesn't in this song. She has big songs and 'fun' songs on all her albums so I guess this next one will be the same I hope so anyway, I like the variety she brings Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gianni Versace 2,987 Posted February 6, 2016 Author Share Posted February 6, 2016 4 minutes ago, Harry said: Lmao there's really no point in this conversation if you're unable to discuss without being so needlessly rude everytime someone questions something you said. If I was coming from the wrong end you could just tell me and answer without being such an ass every single time, is that so difficult for you? Why is Beyonce 'egotistical' but Rihanna is just 'confident'? I didn't pull anything out my ass nor is it an argument. how am i being "needlessly rude"? maybe to @Tropico and if that's the case than i apologize, maybe my lack of emotes makes it look like i'm mad? I see beyonce as egotistical because though Rihanna loves to be confident and strong (see: hard, needed me, etc), the songs themselves are always better (that's just my opinion) and she does it in a more tasteful way. beyonce repeating "i slay, i slay, i slay, etc" and "bow down bitches" isn't just being confident, it's redundant and really shows her superiority complex. plus beyonce has been continuously releasing these type of songs (7/11, flawless, bowdown, formation, etc) so it's kind of old anyways. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Church 849 Posted February 6, 2016 Share Posted February 6, 2016 How many songs is she gonna put out that just talk about how great and fantastic she is? It's so boring. I love trashy generic radio bs, but this subject is so overplayed and just seems like overcompensating now rather than confidence. Maybe it's because she's getting older and insecure about it? Idk. Also, it's embarassing she's doing the "slay" thing. Slay, Swag, ect. She's a grown married mother now. I don't think you have to stop being sexy and fun once you have a kid, I'm saying it looks pathetically try hard when a mommy in her 30s goes on about how much she ~slays her haters~ She's so cringy now. (but I love the instrumental) kiss kiss Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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