Prismatic 4,789 Posted February 5, 2016 Share Posted February 5, 2016 2 minutes ago, Enigma said: But Gaga doesn't even have an album out so how is this about flopping? I was talking about C2C, when she wasn't slaying the charts, people brag about acclaims like that is more important than sales, but once her sales are up, people are going/most likely ignore about the acclaim part and brag about the #1s and sells... Just now, Enigma said: Gaga's pre era is way bigger than anything Katy did during that pre era, and in some aspects even bigger than her actual era. You seriously must be joking when you mention that wig video as something important or as something people cared about. What are you smoking... People were actually helped when she uploaded the burning weave video. It got people hyped for the dark/less colorful era. You should be joking saying Gaga's pre era is bigger than Katheryn's era. Dark Horse/Roar is bigger than what Gaga have been doing for the last 2 era AP & C2C. I Only Stan For Risk Takers Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quark 7,098 Posted February 5, 2016 Author Share Posted February 5, 2016 11 minutes ago, Mobster said: http://www.billboard.com/articles/news/magazine-feature/6678363/justin-bieber-comeback-story-analysis-what-do-you-mean http://www.businessinsider.de/justin-bieber-comeback-2015-11?r=US&IR=T http://www.bbc.co.uk/music/articles/a83daac9-22c0-49d3-8e67-6680ec3407f1 It literally took me three seconds to find articles about Bieber's "success" I agree, it's not only about the charts, but you never explained what you defined as "big" It just seems to me, that you have a certain tunnel vision set on Gaga and you're not really taking into consideration any onther artist's success But Bieber's comeback is all about the charts though. That is something Gaga already did bigger than him. On the other hand, where is biebbers iconic Oscar performance? Where is his versatility and golden globe win? Where are his Grammy and Oscar nominations? Has he ever performed at the Superbowl, Grammys, and Oscars within the same year? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quark 7,098 Posted February 5, 2016 Author Share Posted February 5, 2016 1 minute ago, Prismatic said: I was talking about C2C, when she wasn't slaying the charts, people brag about acclaims like that is more important than sales, but once her sales are up, people are going/most likely ignore about the acclaim part and brag about the #1s and sells... What are you smoking... People were actually helped when she uploaded the burning weave video. It got people hyped for the dark/less colorful era. You should be joking saying Gaga's pre era is bigger than Katheryn's era. Dark Horse/Roar is bigger than what Gaga have been doing for the last 2 era AP & C2C. While is true that people undermine charts when they want to, I don't really care much about that. Plus Gaga sold more than a million albums with a Jazz album. Also, the only people that cared about that lame Katy Perry "dark era" thing were the fans. The GP didn't really care about that. Also, did Katy win a Golden Globe, receive Oscars and Grammy nominations, and or perform at the Grammys, Superbowl, and or Oscars during the prism era? The only thing big about Katy Prism era was the charts, but no true iconic moments based on talent alone. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mobster 14,604 Posted February 5, 2016 Share Posted February 5, 2016 7 minutes ago, Enigma said: But Bieber's comeback is all about the charts though. That is something Gaga already did bigger than him. On the other hand, where is biggers iconic Oscar performance? Where is his versatility and golden globe win? Where are his Grammy and Oscar nominations? Has he ever performed at the Superbowl, Grammys, and Oscars within the same year? Gaga has never had 3 #1's on a single album and his era isn't even done yet. (Don't compare pure sales, because music simply doesn't sell as it used to) There are different types of success. Gaga definitely has the award shows and critics on her side right now, that doesn't mean everyone else is having a terrible era. Anyway, I'm not even trying to convince you of the fact that Justin Bieber is big right now, I couldn't care less. I'm simply playing devil's advocate, because your opinions often seem very unbalanced. But I'm only a man and I do what I can. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quark 7,098 Posted February 5, 2016 Author Share Posted February 5, 2016 1 minute ago, Mobster said: Gaga has never had 3 #1's in a single album and his era isn't even done yet. (Don't compare pure sales, because music simply doesn't sell as it used to) There are different types of success. Gaga definitely has the award shows and critics on her side right now, that doesn't mean everyone else is having a terrible era. Anyway, I'm not even trying to convince you of the fact that Justin Bieber is big right now, I couldn't care less. I'm simply playing devil's advocate, because your opinions often seem very unbalanced. Except pure sales should still be counted. Bieber now has streams counting to his advantage while Gaga didn't at her time. It all sort of balances out. And once again Gaga's success is bigger than current Bieber because she is doing things that reach beyond charts and sales. Her success is achieved by winning peoples hearts and impacting the industry with just pure talent. Many people of the past sold tons of records and only some of them are still remembered. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mobster 14,604 Posted February 5, 2016 Share Posted February 5, 2016 4 minutes ago, Enigma said: Except pure sales should still be counted. Bieber now has streams counting to his advantage while Gaga didn't at her time. It all sort of balances out. And once again Gaga's success is bigger than current Bieber because she is doing things that reach beyond charts and sales. Her success is achieved by winning peoples hearts and impacting the industry with just pure talent. Many people of the past sold tons of records and only some of them are still remembered. Nothing personal, but I feel like I'm talking to a wall... I'll just leave it at that. But I'm only a man and I do what I can. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prismatic 4,789 Posted February 5, 2016 Share Posted February 5, 2016 2 minutes ago, Enigma said: While is true that people undermine charts when they want to, I don't really care much about that. Plus Gaga sold more than a million albums with a Jazz album. Also, the only people that cared about that lame Katy Perry "dark era" thing were the fans. The GP didn't really care about that. Also, did Katy win a Golden Globe, receive Oscars and Grammy nominations, and or perform at the Grammys, Superbowl, and or Oscars during the prism era? The only thing big about Katy Prism era was the charts, but no true iconic moments based on talent alone. Hahahaha. You're pathetic honey. C2C barely sold over a million. I don't really care about charts yet I'm going to make a thread about the charting performance for ARTPOP Only her fans cared about it, people are thisrty for more hits from her. The GP cared enough to make Dark Horse diamond and Roar close to diamond and cared enough to go ot her record breaking tour and watch her Superbowl performance, etc. Katheryn performed at the Grammy & Super Bowl. She was included last minute because Grammy needed her to perform, she could've declined. Her Superbowl is the most watch (more than the actual game). Why do Katheryn need to start acting while her music career is slaying? Gaga needed to do acting or soemthing other than music (espcially pop music) to get the bad taste from ARTPOP out of people's mouth and start something new. So try again before attacking Katheryn and her PRISM era. I Only Stan For Risk Takers Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quark 7,098 Posted February 5, 2016 Author Share Posted February 5, 2016 Just now, Mobster said: Nothing personal, but I feel like I'm talking to a wall... I'll just leave at that. I am just pointing out FACTS. I may seem biased most of the time, but Gaga is just very talented. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solitaire 902 Posted February 5, 2016 Share Posted February 5, 2016 2 hours ago, Brodinsky said: She is an established artist. omg Lana is slaying in your avi, where is that photo from?? - Previously Sycothisis Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TerrenceV2 2,001 Posted February 5, 2016 Share Posted February 5, 2016 2 minutes ago, Solitaire said: omg Lana is slaying in your avi, where is that photo from?? It is from the Marfa Journal photoshoot, IT. SLAYS. playground love - josef salvat Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quark 7,098 Posted February 5, 2016 Author Share Posted February 5, 2016 6 minutes ago, Prismatic said: Hahahaha. You're pathetic honey. C2C barely sold over a million. I don't really care about charts yet I'm going to make a thread about the charting performance for ARTPOP Only her fans cared about it, people are thisrty for more hits from her. The GP cared enough to make Dark Horse diamond and Roar close to diamond and cared enough to go ot her record breaking tour and watch her Superbowl performance, etc. Katheryn performed at the Grammy & Super Bowl. She was included last minute because Grammy needed her to perform, she could've declined. Her Superbowl is the most watch (more than the actual game). Why do Katheryn need to start acting while her music career is slaying? Gaga needed to do acting or soemthing other than music (espcially pop music) to get the bad taste from ARTPOP out of people's mouth and start something new. So try again before attacking Katheryn and her PRISM era. You are just repeating what I said with the C2C sales. And having good sales is always a good thing, that is why I pointed those out in that thread, but charts are not the only thing or my focus (notice that I also pointed out music acclaim and recognition). And I never denied that Katy was very successful with charts. Just saying that even way she sales that much, she has no true impact on people or the industry. Where is her Iconic performance based on talent alone? The superbowl show was bound to be watched because is the superbowl (plus Missy Elliot and the Shark are more remembered than her). And Gaga went to acting because she wanted to (not that Katy has actual acting talent anyways). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prismatic 4,789 Posted February 5, 2016 Share Posted February 5, 2016 3 minutes ago, Enigma said: You are just repeating what I said with the C2C sales. And having good sales is always a good thing, that is why I pointed those out in that thread, but charts are not the only thing or my focus (notice that I also pointed out music acclaim and recognition). And I never denied that Katy was very successful with charts. Just saying that even way she sales that much, she has no true impact on people or the industry. Where is her Iconic performance based on talent alone? The superbowl show was bound to be watched because is the superbowl (plus Missy Elliot and the Shark are more remembered than her). And Gaga went to acting because she wanted to (not that Katy has actual acting talent anyways). Cool. I Only Stan For Risk Takers Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaperIz 7,346 Posted February 5, 2016 Share Posted February 5, 2016 28 minutes ago, Mobster said: Gaga has never had 3 #1's on a single album and his era isn't even done yet. (Don't compare pure sales, because music simply doesn't sell as it used to) There are different types of success. Gaga definitely has the award shows and critics on her side right now, that doesn't mean everyone else is having a terrible era. Anyway, I'm not even trying to convince you of the fact that Justin Bieber is big right now, I couldn't care less. I'm simply playing devil's advocate, because your opinions often seem very unbalanced. Human generated art Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesse Pinkman 4,660 Posted February 5, 2016 Share Posted February 5, 2016 Y'all are kind of doing the most. She hasn't even put out new music. Lord. It's science, bitch Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quark 7,098 Posted February 5, 2016 Author Share Posted February 5, 2016 8 minutes ago, Metamorphosis said: Y'all are kind of doing the most. She hasn't even put out new music. Lord. And that is why her current acclaim is success is even more impressive. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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