Oblivion 58 Posted January 30, 2016 Share Posted January 30, 2016 And haters attacked Gaga for doing deal with Amazon, but then other big pop star hands out album for free and counts non-sense downloads everybody is fine with it, why are some of you such big hypocrites?It's not platinum, it can't be, it's like Apple would buy 1m albums from Gaga and it would be platinum, that's a non sense. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SISTERV 3,887 Posted January 30, 2016 Share Posted January 30, 2016 I mean...I feel like LG5 will sell double this at least so I'm not worried. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
uo111 5,265 Posted January 30, 2016 Share Posted January 30, 2016 This is beyond embarassing. And lol at people saying it's fine becaue she couldn't have made money any other way. That is even more embarassing. Nevermind that there is no defense for ANTI getting "platinum" from free downloads. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JusKeepBreathin 19,311 Posted January 30, 2016 Share Posted January 30, 2016 22 hours ago, Metamorphosis said: Only because Samsung purchased 1million copies. She's such a fraud. How can anyone stan for her? When will Samsung buy a million copies of your fave? "Nothing in the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity." -Martin Luther King Jr. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haroon 49,685 Posted January 30, 2016 Share Posted January 30, 2016 I don't think Rihanna can be blamed for this, I mean her fans and others are getting an album for free Blame the certification company for their rules Same thing with the Gaga situation, blame Billboard and RIAA, don't blame Gaga Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SISTERV 3,887 Posted January 30, 2016 Share Posted January 30, 2016 7 hours ago, Bebe said: She made a marketing deal with Samsung who agreed to purchase her music so that they could offer free downloads. It's just a smart marketing move and with the way records are selling these days it's not such a dumb move either, if artists are not going to be able to make much money from selling albums then this is a great idea on how to profit from an album. I mean great, she made money from people downloading her album for free. With torrents people would have downloaded it for free anyway and she wouldn't have made a dime. Who is the loser in this situation? The loser in the situation is every ****ing hardworking new artist who hasn't made it yet. A brand new artist doesn't get a corporation to back them so they actually have to EARN their sales based on people voting with their dollar. If they sell, for example 900,000 copies they don't get platinum certification. But if an established artist releases a crappy album they can get a corporation to buy up the album in bulk and it's deemed "Platinum". I thought these certifications were supposed to be based on ALL PEOPLE having an equal say with their dollar. Not corporations pre-deciding what they want to be popular and inflating it to look that way. This system makes it easy for established artists to put out the same crap and not have to work hard, and makes it more difficult for new acts to be fairly represented in the music industry. It's fraud to me. The Samsung deal should count as 1 sale. Just like it does for every other person. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry 26,836 Posted January 30, 2016 Share Posted January 30, 2016 I feel like most people are only having an issue with this because you all put too much weight in the bragging rights that come with sales and certifications. No one really cares about that except stans. The labels and artists are effectively just trying to make a profit, and that's what they've done here. Bottom line is she managed to make a ton of money from an album that likely would've performed quite averagely otherwise, and her fans are allowed to enjoy it for free. It's a win-win. I don't understand what there is to be so angry about. Aside from a select few artists, album sales are in the pits. We all know that. So labels are of course going to be looking at new ways to make money outside of the traditional realm of pure sales. And if big cooperations like Samsung are willing to invest in an artist like Rihanna then that's a testament to her power. Same as when Best Buy paid Gaga to have Born This Way given away for free with their mobile phones, or when Amazon covered the cost of those 99c albums. We weren't calling Gaga a fraud when she took the money from those deals because they were smart business tactics. I don't understand how this is different. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bebe 17,094 Posted January 30, 2016 Share Posted January 30, 2016 11 minutes ago, SISTERV said: The loser in the situation is every ****ing hardworking new artist who hasn't made it yet. A brand new artist doesn't get a corporation to back them so they actually have to EARN their sales based on people voting with their dollar. If they sell, for example 900,000 copies they don't get platinum certification. But if an established artist releases a crappy album they can get a corporation to buy up the album in bulk and it's deemed "Platinum". I thought these certifications were supposed to be based on ALL PEOPLE having an equal say with their dollar. Not corporations pre-deciding what they want to be popular and inflating it to look that way. This system makes it easy for established artists to put out the same crap and not have to work hard, and makes it more difficult for new acts to be fairly represented in the music industry. It's fraud to me. The Samsung deal should count as 1 sale. Just like it does for every other person. It doesn't affect new artists. Who really cares about certifications anyway? If a brand new artist manages to get a platinum certification then great for them, but it's hardly something that is going to be career breaking if they don't. Bigger artists can do bigger campaigns. A brand new artist can't pull a Beyonce and just drop an entire visual album on itunes out of the blue and expect it to break the internet, a brand new artist can't pull a Miley and create a free 'experimental' album while supporting it with a tour, a brand new artist can't pull a U2 by getting Apple to download their album onto every device and a brand new artist can't partner with Samsung and allow their album to be given for free to their fans. New artists can still release their own work. It's unlikely to be a huge blockbuster hit, but that never is very likely. Nobody has downloaded Rihanna's album for free and then gone "Oh wait a second, I would download this other album but I've just splashed out an entire $0.00 on Rihanna's new album and that's platinum!" It's just as difficult for newer artists to be certified, I really cannot see how anything has changed because Rihanna made a deal with Samsung to provide people with free downloads of an album. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JusKeepBreathin 19,311 Posted January 30, 2016 Share Posted January 30, 2016 I guess people forget what the definition of MESS is. Lol mess is three years without a platinum album. "Nothing in the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity." -Martin Luther King Jr. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HANZ 4,380 Posted January 30, 2016 Share Posted January 30, 2016 LMFAO what a joke and lol at the Navy Celebrating this, mess No dignity from the Navy or Rihanna herself My Favs = Lady Gaga, Janet Jackson, Ricky Martin, AKB48 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RBNLM 1,640 Posted January 30, 2016 Share Posted January 30, 2016 30 minutes ago, just4fun said: I guess people forget what the definition of MESS is. Lol mess is three years without a platinum album. Whats so hard about that just let a corporation to buy 10 M copies and congratulation you have 1 diamond album Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LaLuna 12,732 Posted January 30, 2016 Share Posted January 30, 2016 The way this "accomplishment" is being celebrated while Gaga had to face hate and criticism for selling BTW for 0.99 on Amazon makes me sick. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gagaisitalian 3,573 Posted January 30, 2016 Share Posted January 30, 2016 23 hours ago, Chriss said: Her album could actually beat adele's record for most purchased album in a week if she has already been certified platinum although adele did sell 1.8m in 24 hours in the US You can't compare this to Adele when people actually went to the store to buy her album. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JusKeepBreathin 19,311 Posted January 30, 2016 Share Posted January 30, 2016 27 minutes ago, RBNLM said: Whats so hard about that just let a corporation to buy 10 M copies and congratulation you have 1 diamond album If a corporation believes in you enough to give away ten copies to its consumers you are a big artist. Companies don't waste money unless they make money. If this wasn't profitable to Samsung they wouldn't even think about doing it. Hopefully they buy 10 million copies of LG5 and make it go diamond. Because it shows how much these big companies believe in the power of the artist to drive their business. "Nothing in the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity." -Martin Luther King Jr. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mic 1,415 Posted January 30, 2016 Share Posted January 30, 2016 1 hour ago, Haroon said: I don't think Rihanna can be blamed for this, I mean her fans and others are getting an album for free Blame the certification company for their rules Same thing with the Gaga situation, blame Billboard and RIAA, don't blame Gaga She's the main stakeholder in this situation and her team knows perfectly what to do, why RIAA gave the certification so fast without delay? This all looks planned out so Rihanna can be blamed. i hate such political correctness while we can observe the cheating clearly. But yeah we have not much to do with it, maybe that's why some people accept it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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