yASSsss 35,510 Posted January 21, 2016 Share Posted January 21, 2016 Forbes- Throughout 2013, posts in the Gaga world focused predominately on a fountain of speculation concerning feuds (Kelly Osborne, Katy Perry, Cher, Perez Hilton, Madonna, et cetera), lawsuits, and rumblings of Gaga-business ventures going awry. As promotional materials for ARTPOP began to roll out in full, the negativity surrounding Gaga had reached a fever pitch. If a song made its way onto the internet early, it was invariably panned (Spin on applause: “Wait, why are we clapping again?”) If Gaga mentioned a “burqa”, she was swiftly disparaged. If a piece of marketing went viral, the conversation turned condescending (Idolator: “As a title, ARTPOP is about as subtle as a falling piano. Or a falling dadaist print of a piano. Whatever.”) By the time ARTPOP dropped in November, online invective surrounding the record’s release became an unmistakable influence on the actual criticism—quickly peruse some of the reviews and you can see just how far journalists bent over backwards to mention everything else before the music. Read More- http://www.forbes.com/sites/nickmessitte/2013/12/23/ARTPOP-goes-the-weasel-a-second-glimpse-into-the-deflation-of-a-superstar/#2715e4857a0b1af600e573d8 Celebuzz There are many reasons why the album’s negative reputation persists, both fair and unfair. Of the former reasons: ARTPOP failed to sell — both in its debut week and overall — as much as its predecessors.There were other factors too (endless comparisons to Katy Perry’s Prism and Miley Cyrus’ Bangerz, for instance), and eventually all of these things cohered into a black cloud that overshadowed everything the album and the era had to offer. Its legacy tainted from the get-go, ARTPOP was never given a real chance to prove itself. ARTPOP is an album bursting with ideas, some of them brilliant and some only half-formed. Within the confines of 15 songs, Gaga addresses topics as disparate as sexual assault (“Swine”), the artistic process (“ARTPOP”), gender roles (“G.U.Y.”), class satire (“Donatella”), and addiction (“Dope”). No one idea is explored too thoroughly, but they are there: actual ideas, points-of-view. And ultimately, those ideas — that ambition — is what sets Gaga apart from her peers. So no, it’s not a perfect album. It is no The Fame Monster. It’s not as cohesive as Born This Way. It may not be fully-realized, but it is ambitious. It is fun. It is, occasionally, both funny and sexy. It is a good album that suffered under the weighty expectations placed upon its maker’s shoulders. It is better than most of us remember. I’d rather support an artist who swings and misses, one who is so clearly passionate about her own ideas (even the ones she can’t properly articulate), than one who plays it safe, who works with only the goal of creating a hit in mind. And so, for all of its failures and its damaged legacy, I would argue that ARTPOP is a success. It was a blank canvas upon which Gaga projected her varied, impressionistic ideas. She hoped her fans would do the same and fill in some of the blanks she left along the way. Some of them did. Others weren’t feeling it. It’s fine not to like the album, to find it inferior to her previous works. It’s just not accurate to dismiss it as a total creative and commercial failure.Two years later, the least we can do is acknowledge it as more than what her detractors wanted us to believe it was. At the very least, people should stop using it as an excuse to count Gaga out.She’s not out. She’s only just beginning, a blank canvas once again. Read More- http://www.celebuzz.com/2015-11-11/lady-gaga-ARTPOP-in-defense-of-two-years-later/ Spoiler Ever since Elton John dissed this album,ARTPOP,is a hot topic on this forum these days,so I thought it'd be nice to share these articles. Call me by your name and I'll call you by mine Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kvnrp 48,353 Posted January 21, 2016 Share Posted January 21, 2016 "I’d rather support an artist who swings and misses, one who is so clearly passionate about her own ideas (even the ones she can’t properly articulate), than one who plays it safe, who works with only the goal of creating a hit in mind". I wonder who they mean But its kinda weird to see everyone supporting Gaga again after all that happend during ARTPOP. Let's hope this vibe continues well into the LG5 era Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phoenix 17,395 Posted January 21, 2016 Share Posted January 21, 2016 9 minutes ago, yASSsss said: I’d rather support an artist who swings and misses, one who is so clearly passionate about her own ideas (even the ones she can’t properly articulate), than one who plays it safe, who works with only the goal of creating a hit in mind. my thoughts exactly 💎 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
yASSsss 35,510 Posted January 21, 2016 Author Share Posted January 21, 2016 4 minutes ago, kvnrp said: "I’d rather support an artist who swings and misses, one who is so clearly passionate about her own ideas (even the ones she can’t properly articulate), than one who plays it safe, who works with only the goal of creating a hit in mind". I wonder who they mean i'd like to know that too Call me by your name and I'll call you by mine Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaryJaneHolland 77,348 Posted January 21, 2016 Share Posted January 21, 2016 why are you still obsessed with ARTPOP's success, sales, critical response and all those stuffs??? guys it's 2016 not 2013/2014... let ARTPOP era rest in peace.... The Fame/Monster, Born This way were albums that (nearly) everyone bought and liked, and ARTPOP got a success just from little monster. THE END Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
swakby 4,100 Posted January 21, 2016 Share Posted January 21, 2016 Gonna say it again, her best album to date. I don't care what Elton says Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
yASSsss 35,510 Posted January 21, 2016 Author Share Posted January 21, 2016 8 minutes ago, Maryjaneholland said: why are you still obsessed with ARTPOP's success, sales, critical response and all those stuffs??? guys it's 2016 not 2013/2014... let ARTPOP era rest in peace.... The Fame/Monster, Born This way were albums that (nearly) everyone bought and liked, and ARTPOP got a success just from little monster. THE END i knew a response like this would be coming Call me by your name and I'll call you by mine Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MindVomiting 303 Posted January 21, 2016 Share Posted January 21, 2016 the album was just for her fans in the end she said it multiple times most of the album was better then anything she has put out before she may never top songs like swine aura mary jane holland applause do what you want and venus Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PunkTheFunk 124,406 Posted January 21, 2016 Share Posted January 21, 2016 Every time I think ARTPOP is resting safely in her pop culture coffin we whip out the shovels and dig ha out Spoiler I love ARTPOP more than my children Spoiler I don't have any children Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
super ultra 878 Posted January 21, 2016 Share Posted January 21, 2016 "So no, it’s not a perfect album. It is no The Fame Monster. It’s not as cohesive as Born This Way. It may not be fully-realized, but it is ambitious. It is fun. It is, occasionally, both funny and sexy." thank you nothing needs to be perfect Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Creyk 17,805 Posted January 21, 2016 Share Posted January 21, 2016 19 minutes ago, Maryjaneholland said: why are you still obsessed with ARTPOP's success, sales, critical response and all those stuffs??? guys it's 2016 not 2013/2014... let ARTPOP era rest in peace.... The Fame/Monster, Born This way were albums that (nearly) everyone bought and liked, and ARTPOP got a success just from little monster. THE END comments like this are so dumb What else would we talk about? We can only move on from AP once LG5 comes and takes it's place, as of now it's still the last interesting era Gaga had, because let's not act like the C2C or AHS eras were such eventful thrill rides. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy McQueen 4,484 Posted January 21, 2016 Share Posted January 21, 2016 36 minutes ago, yASSsss said: i'd like to know that too I'm dying of laughter Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
yASSsss 35,510 Posted January 21, 2016 Author Share Posted January 21, 2016 1 minute ago, Andy McQueen said: I'm dying of laughter Call me by your name and I'll call you by mine Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaryJaneHolland 77,348 Posted January 21, 2016 Share Posted January 21, 2016 40 minutes ago, yASSsss said: i knew a response like this would be coming yes honey, because it's pointless to talk about ARTPOP anymore... btw, who is this girl, her gifs are the best? 31 minutes ago, Creyk said: comments like this are so dumb What else would we talk about? We can only move on from AP once LG5 comes and takes it's place, as of now it's still the last interesting era Gaga had, because let's not act like the C2C or AHS eras were such eventful thrill rides. why are they dumb?? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PunkTheFunk 124,406 Posted January 21, 2016 Share Posted January 21, 2016 32 minutes ago, Maryjaneholland said: yes honey, because it's pointless to talk about ARTPOP anymore... btw, who is this girl, her gifs are the best? Tiffany Pollard aka "New York" Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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