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Elton John Is Wrong. ARTPOP Is Not a Bad Album


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58 minutes ago, Steven said:

We can only hope that LG5 will trully show her potential and explores her maturity and creative side.

Try no floods what Stefani wrote when she was 16.

 

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On 21. 1. 2016 at 4:47 PM, Justinn said:

Your subtle jab and shade doesn't bother me at all. Im proud of what we did on Radio ARTPOP. Im just saying something that is very true... ARTPOP had massive commercial success compared to Rebel Heart. RH was a huge disappointment from a quality and commercial standpoint. 

 

Furthermore back to the Radio ARTPOP thing, I am really sick and tired of people like you using it as a derogatory slur or something negative. You live your life as a fan on a forum, I lived my life as a fan outside the box and got closer to Gaga than you ever will because of it. 

So what? :awkney: 

Too many people here with moral superiority complex.
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I'm listening to ARTPOP in full for the first time in months and it truly is an incredible pop album!

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On Wednesday, January 20, 2016 at 0:41 AM, PaperIz said:

I just don't get how everyone including Gaga can discredit the album so much. It's so disheartening to see everyone turn their backs on the good sis ARTPOP. I don't think it's a bad album at all.

When did Gaga discredit ARTPOP!?

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1 hour ago, llbcherry said:

When did Gaga discredit ARTPOP!?

I guess she hasn't majorly but a few things she's said have indicated she's disappointed with the album but only after it underperformed, but I guess she couldn't say she was unhappy with it as it was coming out :laughga: bad promo

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20 minutes ago, PaperIz said:

I guess she hasn't majorly but a few things she's said have indicated she's disappointed with the album but only after it underperformed, but I guess she couldn't say she was unhappy with it as it was coming out :laughga: bad promo

On nov 11th she tweeted "Today isn't just the 2 years bday of ARTPOP ( which makes me so happy) , but also the premiere of @AHS episode 6!"

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On Wednesday, January 20, 2016 at 0:37 PM, deeman said:

No he doesn't he is saying she should make a carol king album. How is that respecting her to be herself or respecting any of her work? It is a massive insult imo nobody has even heard of carol king. this is just some cant live without you song as if that hadn't already been made over and over again and we have seen where that sort of music got us. some of these tracks i have actually heard but it is not particularly outstanding there were better stuff in the 70s and worse aswell but if the 70s were so great then we wouldn't be in 2016 with one of our best artists being pursuaded by a senior citizen to reproduce someone elses work from  the aftermath of 2 of the biggest wars and disasters in history. 

Lol.... I'm not a Carol King fan, but she was HUGE in her time and is considered a legend, at least an icon, and is an influence to so many of today's female songwriters.

Also, I'm sure I am skipping your point... But no matter the quality of 70's music, time moves ever forward.

Anyway, imo, ARTPOP was "good." Not perfect, but good. If someone thinks it is "not good", or bad, then fine. I can't believe we are still having the, "it was a flop".... "No it wasn't cuz Applause and mixed reviews"... arguments....

As a friend of hers, I think Elton should have phrased it better. Maybe "not my favorite album of hers", but who knows with these articles... Often the writers paraphrase the interviewees words, so who really knows?

This is. No. Big. Deal.

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22 hours ago, Justinn said:

Stay pressed. 

Your wit and intelligence really shines through here. Probably why you're such a good fit for a show like Radio ARTPOP! :)

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21 hours ago, Steven said:

I think he's right, ARTPOP was her worst album but I can't blame her. She had poor management at that time and she had so much struggles. I rediscovered TFM this week and I feel like those songs are timeless just like BTW will be remembered as one of Gaga's classics. When it comes to ARTPOP, I feel like the first half of the album was coherent and genius but the the other half felt rushed, uncompleted and random. We can only hope that LG5 will trully show her potential and explores her maturity and creative side.

Exactly how I feel. Aura venus guy sexxx dreams MANiCURE ARTPOP dwuw>>> Great songs.... Second half.. Eh, gypsy and applause were good as well.

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My biggest problem with ARTPOP is that it can be to busy at times. A lot of unnecessary sounds going on that take away from the songs.

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1 hour ago, HORRORHOLIC said:

My biggest problem with ARTPOP is that it can be to busy at times. A lot of unnecessary sounds going on that take away from the songs.

same thing was said about mozart "too many notes".

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4 hours ago, HORRORHOLIC said:

My biggest problem with ARTPOP is that it can be to busy at times. A lot of unnecessary sounds going on that take away from the songs.

Especially in the last chorus of Sexxx Dreams.

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AyeshaErotica

I'm more worried about his false statement that "doing the whole tour and album with Tony Bennett is amazing". I think ARTPOP is mäh mäh mäh but clearly better than this classical album which is bäh bäh bäh

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I really don't care who does or doesn't like ARTPOP. That doesn't really matter, but I do get sad when I feel like Gaga seems disappointed in it these days, or wants to push the experience of it away, when it seems a lot of that has to do with how the media/masses treated it, and it "under-performing" (which I still don't understand that.)

I feel like it being about a lot of "painful" things has to do with this (Gaga said herself recently that ARTPOP was full of pain or similar).  Showing your pain or something abnormal to happiness is looked at as being dirty, a taboo.  Out pop stars need to be singing party ballads and love songs all the time.  I find this idea ludicrous.  There is nothing wrong with letting the darker parts inspire you, showing those things in your music is often what speaks to fans more than "let's get drunk and party all night," which people might find "fun" but there's no real heart in it.  It rarely will connect with someone on an emotional level, touch them and change their lives.  Not all music has to be either way. I love a good pop song about love as much as all of you, but if that's all their is, what a disappointment. I won't stay around for long. Of course, not all music has to be painful either, but I do feel like she's largely criticized because people don't want to see what goes on behind the curtain, behind the burqa.  

Measuring your success in "how much does everyone like my album?" or "Did it do well in the charts?" is silly, for fans and artists alike.  She did say she wants to be like Iron Maiden, not Madonna. What's the difference there? Madonna can be seen on the charts, where as Iron Maiden, or let's pick another super well off, entirely successful icon of female musicians, like Tori Amos, is that the arenas are packed, the tickets will always sell out, the music is loved and great, the artists have talent, the albums sell, but without those billboard chart, Top of the Pops numbers. There's nothing wrong with that. Tori Amos is one of the most successful female artists in history, and when an album comes out, you won't see it #1 on the charts, climbing over Rhianna or Madonna, but it has a long foundation and she'll be selling out venues and doing exactly what she wants, making exactly the music she wants, with record companies saying "yes ma'am" until she dies. THAT is success, whether your music is pain or fluff. You don't have to be on every magazine cover, talk show, or on the lips of babes to be successful, in fact I can imagine it's a lot less stressful and more liberating, fulfilling to make what you want to make, do as you do, and give zero ****s about what the muggles have to say about you. 

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3 hours ago, Liechtenstein said:

I'm more worried about his false statement that "doing the whole tour and album with Tony Bennett is amazing". I think ARTPOP is mäh mäh mäh but clearly better than this classical album which is bäh bäh bäh

Is this you trying to be witty trying to upstage someone?

"give zero ****s about what the muggles have to say about you. "

muggles never heard that one before.

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