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Sudarshana
2 minutes ago, VampireHeart said:

 

Who? Where? What is the evidence that attacks in Germany have any kind of religious motivation? Assumption.

isis propagates this idea a lot

http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/598256/ISIS-Rape-Yazidi-Koran-Mosul-Jihad-Slavery-Alyas-Karmani-Muslim-Islam-Said-Mimousini

3 minutes ago, VampireHeart said:

Majority of them are young and criminals, what makes you think that they listen to any 'preacher' or care about religion at all? Apples and oranges. 

yes, the fact they are muslims is just a coincidence :awkney:

have you heard of a jewish or buddhist gang that goes around and molests women? :awkney:

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19 minutes ago, Paper Gangsta said:

Since when are Syrians a race?

 

They are Arabs and these same stereotypes and generalizations are repeated about all of them.

 

9 minutes ago, Sudarshana said:

isis propagates this idea a lot

http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/598256/ISIS-Rape-Yazidi-Koran-Mosul-Jihad-Slavery-Alyas-Karmani-Muslim-Islam-Said-Mimousini

yes, the fact they are muslims is just a coincidence :awkney:

have you heard of a jewish or buddhist gang that goes around and molests women? :awkney:

 

What is your evidence that these criminals have any association with ISIS?

Yeah the rapists, robbers, molesters are of all ethicities and religions. Shocker. Are gang rapes in India or Brazil inspired by ISIS too? 

You still have zero evidence that these attacks were religiously motivated.

 

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Sudarshana
19 minutes ago, VampireHeart said:

You still have zero evidence that these attacks were religiously motivated.

 

I cannot know that, I'm just telling my hypothesis, you don't have to accuse everybody who doesn't agree with you of racism :wub:

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8 minutes ago, Sudarshana said:

I cannot know that, I'm just telling my hypothesis, you don't have to accuse everybody who doesn't agree with you of racism :wub:

 

Well there is no other word for that if someone believes that certain nationalities/ethnicities or races have specific characteristics and tendencies towards criminal behavior more than others.

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Sudarshana
1 minute ago, VampireHeart said:

 

Well there is no other word for that if someone believes that certain nationalities/ethnicities or races have specific characteristics and tendencies towards criminal behavior more than others.

so saying that, for example, people in south africa are more likely to rape than people in japan is racist? but that's true (132.4 vs. 1.0 per 100,000 in 2010). I guess reality is racist then :noparty:

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2 minutes ago, Sudarshana said:

so saying that, for example, people in south africa are more likely to rape than people in japan is racist? but that's true (132.4 vs. 1.0 per 100,000 in 2010). I guess reality is racist then :noparty:

 

The criminal behavior is not related to or caused by their race or ethnic/religious background. If you generalize people and you're suspicious of or more afraid to walk towards South African than a Japanese person, because of some statistics, there is something wrong there.

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TiphEret

One new day on GGD...post an article in an attempt for people to not stereotype an entire population..;turn into a racist thread.

For the ones who make this racist comment, would you say the same regarding black people (apart from jk with your buddies from the KKK...)? Yet no one answered my question, do you actually know refugees or Syrians? 

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Sudarshana
6 hours ago, TiphEret said:

One new day on GGD...post an article in an attempt for people to not stereotype an entire population..;turn into a racist thread.

For the ones who make this racist comment, would you say the same regarding black people (apart from jk with your buddies from the KKK...)? Yet no one answered my question, do you actually know refugees or Syrians? 

I honestly don't see any racist comments here

“Racism is prejudice, discrimination, or antagonism directed against someone of a different race based on the belief that one’s own race is superior”

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TiphEret
1 hour ago, Sudarshana said:

I honestly don't see any racist comments here

“Racism is prejudice, discrimination, or antagonism directed against someone of a different race based on the belief that one’s own race is superior”

So you don't see any prejudice on this thread ?  Really ? 

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Sudarshana
Just now, TiphEret said:

So you don't see any prejudice on this thread ?  Really ? 

I do, I just don't see prejudice, discrimination, or antagonism directed against someone of a different race based on the belief that one’s own race is superior.

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17 minutes ago, Sudarshana said:

I do, I just don't see prejudice, discrimination, or antagonism directed against someone of a different race based on the belief that one’s own race is superior.

Average South African is more likely to rape me than average Japanese.

I base my opinion on statistics I read on the Internet.

Racist or not? 

Racism is the belief that characteristics and abilities can be attributed to people simply on the basis of their race and that some racial groups are superior to others. Racism and discrimination have been used as powerful weapons encouraging fear or hatred of others in times of conflict and war, and even during economic downturns. 

 

The belief that all members of each race possess characteristics, abilities, or qualities specific to that race, especially so as to distinguish it as inferior or superior to another race or races: theories of racism.

http://www.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/english/racism

 

If you say that average Syrian/Arab is worse human being than average German/European, you are making one group/race/ethnicity superior over the other. If you think that criminal behaviour is exclusive to Middle Eastern or black people and it's somehow related to their race/ethnicity/religion/culture, that is racism/prejudice or both. 

 

If a group of people are condemning the criminal behavior among their community (something which white european christians are NEVER asked to do) you either accept it or stay quiet. The cynicism just shows prejudice, ignorance and superiority complex.

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LebaneseDude
19 hours ago, VampireHeart said:

 

How many Syrians do you personally know?

That is a racist statement and stereotyping. You don't know anything about their culture. 

I do, and the observation is correct.

Middle Eastern women are treated with far less respect than those in European countries. Even countries as progressive as Lebanon still have laws that would make you laugh, like women not being able to give citizenship to children borne from foreign fathers... We even have honor killings for Christ's sake, although in that case the male adulterer can also be killed too :gaycat:

Blame the French for that bit though. 

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LebaneseDude
12 hours ago, VampireHeart said:

 

Well there is no other word for that if someone believes that certain nationalities/ethnicities or races have specific characteristics and tendencies towards criminal behavior more than others.

I think people throw around the word "racism" too much.

"prejudice, discrimination, or antagonism directed against someone of a different race based on the belief that one's own race is superior."

Thinking that black people are more likely to be criminals does not imply that you believe they are inferior. You simply believe that they are more likely to be criminals. Of course this assumes this belief is based on statistical knowledge, and it actually is true.

If anything this is an example of cultural ignorance and empirical stereotyping not racism. I doubt the poster has any malicious intent.

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19 hours ago, VampireHeart said:

 

How many Syrians do you personally know?

That is a racist statement and stereotyping. You don't know anything about their culture. 

And you do?

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Sudarshana
26 minutes ago, VampireHeart said:

belief that characteristics and abilities can be attributed to people simply on the basis of their race

That is correct.

26 minutes ago, VampireHeart said:

Average South African is more likely to rape me than average Japanese.

That is correct too. If you say that the reason for this difference is simply the race, you are definitely being racist and—according to scientific understanding of human behavior—wrong. There are proven examples when a person's genes are responsible for aggression, but those cases are extremely rare and don't have anything to do with race.

But if you say that the South African culture and civilization generates more rapists than the Japanese culture and civilization, you're not being racist, you're addressing an issue that has to be solved, not ignored. Saying that all cultures and civilizations are equally good is absurd. If a tribe practices cannibalism, is their culture as good as, say, the Finnish or Japanese culture? Is it racist to say that a culture that allows cannibalism is bad? Following your logic, it is.

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