Syrian regarding Cologne assaults “Our cultural values were trampled.."

[lego 44,165]

The flier is being handed out in different places in Cologne. This one was given to an American man at the cafeteria at the University of Cologne, who shared it on Facebook. Here’s what it says:

We, men from Syria, condemn in the strongest possible terms abuse against women and the attack and robberies on New Year's Eve.

We regret that women were injured, physically and in their honor. We hope that they will recover well and soon from these attacks.

We hope that the perpetrators of these criminal acts will be found and punished.

Our cultural values were trampled by these crimes. Those values include respect for women and men, respect for bodily integrity, and respect for personal property.

We Syrians have come to Germany as refugees, because we want to live freely in this democratic society. We want to shape, to speak, and to live democracy.

We regret that the acts on New Year's Eve have brought our group — a group of Syrians, a group of refugees and of other Arab or North African people — and our culture into disrepute.

We've fled an inhuman war, in order save our lives and our ability to remain human. We want peace and security and the opportunity to provide for our families through work.

We thank all the people in Germany, both women and men, for all of the help they have so far offered us.

We want to show ourselves worthy of your help. We remain united: Your values are our values.

Germany has done more for us than any other European or Arab country!

 

The leaflet is signed by “Syrian Men for Fairness,” run by a man called Shady and with an address listed in Cologne.

A local broadcaster identified him as Shady Chaaban, a Syrian refugee whom it said was distributing the leaflets at a train station on Monday.

Mordecai-Mark Mac Low, who shared the flier on Facebook, said the reaction was mixed.

He saw at least two young men handing out the fliers at the University of Cologne campus, where he was visiting to give a lecture on his research.

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It's not the only gesture of solidarity between Germans and immigrants. Last week, some members of the Tunisian Youth Association gave out white roses with messages insisting that women reporting abuse be heard.

 

 

 

 

 

http://www1.wdr.de/themen/aktuell/stellungnahme-syrer-koeln-100.html

 

read all 

http://www.buzzfeed.com/jinamoore/you-should-read-what-syrian-men-are-telling-germans-after-ne?utm_term=.nuNv6vprK#.kcDvAvRWm

[bionic 50,111]

inb4 people come in here saying its "not enough"

[TiphEret 1,320]

It's always good to remember not to put everyone in the same bag. 

"A group of Syrian refugees are distributing a message about the New Year’s Eve attacks on women in Cologne, Germany.

The flier is being handed out in different places in Cologne. This one was given to an American man at the cafeteria at the University of Cologne, who shared it on Facebook. Here’s what it says:

We, men from Syria, condemn in the strongest possible terms abuse against women and the attack and robberies on New Year’s Eve.

We regret that women were injured, physically and in their honor. We hope that they will recover well and soon from these attacks.

We hope that the perpetrators of these criminal acts will be found and punished.

Our cultural values were trampled by these crimes. Those values include respect for women and men, respect for bodily integrity, and respect for personal property.

We Syrians have come to Germany as refugees, because we want to live freely in this democratic society. We want to shape, to speak, and to live democracy.

We regret that the acts on New Year’s Eve have brought our group — a group of Syrians, a group of refugees and of other Arab or North African people — and our culture into disrepute.

We’ve fled an inhuman war, in order save our lives and our ability to remain human. We want peace and security and the opportunity to provide for our families through work.

We thank all the people in Germany, both women and men, for all of the help they have so far offered us.

We want to show ourselves worthy of your help. We remain united: Your values are our values.

Germany has done more for us than any other European or Arab country!

The leaflet is signed by “Syrian Men for Fairness,” run by a man called Shady and with an address listed in Cologne.

A local broadcaster identified him as Shady Chaaban, a Syrian refugee whom it said was distributing the leaflets at a train station on Monday.

Mordecai-Mark Mac Low, who shared the flier on Facebook, said the reaction was mixed.

He saw at least two young men handing out the fliers at the University of Cologne campus, where he was visiting to give a lecture on his research.

Low was heading to a work lunch, and none of his German colleagues talked about the flier directly, but they “have certainly been discussing the issue,” Mac Low said. “The general mood among my colleagues is a sort of wary trepidation: there is a great deal of acknowledgment of the plight of the refugees, but also a lot of concern about the practical implications, including very personal stories of low level harassment,” Low told BuzzFeed in an email. One of his colleagues told Low that his 14-year-old daughter had been cat-called:”Hey, baby, what’s your number?”

It’s not the only gesture of solidarity between Germans and immigrants. Last week, some members of the Tunisian Youth Association gave out white roses with messages insisting that women reporting abuse be heard.

Junge Männer mit tunesischen Wurzeln verteilen am #koelnbhf weiße Rosen als Zeichen gegen Vorurteile. #NotInMyName

— WDR Aktuelle Stunde (@aktuelle_stunde)"

http://www.buzzfeed.com/jinamoore/you-should-read-what-syrian-men-are-telling-germans-after-ne?utm_term=.aaO74N0eBV#.symNZgz7Ym

[Goosey 3,017]

"Our cultural values were trampled by these crimes. Those values include respect for women and men, respect for bodily integrity, and respect for personal property."

Maybe. But somehow I don't think the average Syrian man would be as respectful of women's rights as the average German man... 

 

 

[lego 44,165]

9 minutes ago, Goosey said:

"Our cultural values were trampled by these crimes. Those values include respect for women and men, respect for bodily integrity, and respect for personal property."

Maybe. But somehow I don't think the average Syrian man would be as respectful of women's rights as the average German man... 

 

 

 

How many Syrians do you personally know?

That is a racist statement and stereotyping. You don't know anything about their culture. 

[lego 44,165]

Respect for bodily integrity and respect for personal property means that they don't steal and they don't assault or rape. That is not part of anyone's culture. 

 

[TiphEret 1,320]

22 minutes ago, Goosey said:

"Our cultural values were trampled by these crimes. Those values include respect for women and men, respect for bodily integrity, and respect for personal property."

Maybe. But somehow I don't think the average Syrian man would be as respectful of women's rights as the average German man... 

 

 

how about not just thinking and just checking by yourself? I met Syrians , some recently refugees, and they were not what the media describe but I must live in the 5th dimension I guess...

[Goosey 3,017]

3 hours ago, VampireHeart said:

 

How many Syrians do you personally know?

That is a racist statement and stereotyping. You don't know anything about their culture. 

"Racist and stereotyping"

Yeah, sure  Syria has a horrible human rights record and a large population of devout religious people. If there was a referendum for gay marriage in Germany and the same referendum in Syria, which country do you think would have a more positive response?

[JanPianoMusic 730]

What was the expression again? "a drop in the ocean"?

[lego 44,165]

10 hours ago, Goosey said:

"Racist and stereotyping"

Yeah, sure  Syria has a horrible human rights record and a large population of devout religious people. If there was a referendum for gay marriage in Germany and the same referendum in Syria, which country do you think would have a more positive response?

 

So from your obvious ignoring the question and ignoring @TiphEret's post we can see that your 'average' comes from ignorance and zero interaction with that population and all about what you read on the Internet. What does this have to do with gay marriage? Same can be said about Balkan countries and migrants from there, yet no one is demonizing them and doubting their cultural values. Can we talk about mafia from there and say it belongs to their culture?  

This is about attacks in Cologne and it's clear what they meant. It's against their values and culture to steal from people and assault/harm women and your response to that was 'maybe' like you would know anything about them. 

That is racist to assume that majority of Syrians are like that or that they would condone criminal behaviour.

 

 

9 hours ago, JanPianoMusic said:

What was the expression again? "a drop in the ocean"?

So what does this mean? That minority of refugees are not criminals, is that what you are saying? 

[JanPianoMusic 730]

54 minutes ago, VampireHeart said:

So what does this mean? That minority of refugees are not criminals, is that what you are saying? 

I mean that I do not care about that leaflet.

[Sudarshana 581]

actually rape rate in syria is quite low — 0.8 per 100,000 in 2008. lower than in japan (1.3). but unfortunately some islamic preachers encourage raping infidels 

[Paper Gangsta 6,693]

3 minutes ago, Sudarshana said:

actually rape rate in syria is quite low — 0.8 per 100,000 in 2008. lower than in japan (1.3). but unfortunately some islamic preachers encourage raping infidels 

http://www.nowtheendbegins.com/this-is-islam-once-ten-of-us-rape-you-you-become-muslim/

Well it could be that women just report it less 

[Paper Gangsta 6,693]

6 hours ago, VampireHeart said:

 

How many Syrians do you personally know?

That is a racist statement and stereotyping. You don't know anything about their culture. 

Since when are Syrians a race?

[lego 44,165]

4 minutes ago, Sudarshana said:

actually rape rate in syria is quite low — 0.8 per 100,000 in 2008. lower than in japan (1.3). but unfortunately some islamic preachers encourage raping infidels 

 

Who? Where? What is the evidence that attacks in Germany have any kind of religious motivation? Assumption.

Majority of them are young and criminals, what makes you think that they listen to any 'preacher' or care about religion at all? Apples and oranges.