LG5: The return to quality?

[monketsharona 79,714]

1 minute ago, shaneybaby said:

nah she said before BTW was her fav i think it was on twitter. 

That's what her fanbase who is in love with BTW message wants to believe ^^ 

 

[shaneybaby 450]

40 minutes ago, monketsharona said:

That's what her fanbase who is in love with BTW message wants to believe ^^ 

 

but she said it...

[venusfly 17,885]

Any return to her 'old' sound or to any other genre would be an increase in quality to me, TF, TFM and BTW all had songs that were actually catchy and you could listen to them on any occasion, ARTPOP was just badly produced club music... the writing and vocals as always were impressive but the actual music...

[eifulien 2,954]

5 minutes ago, shaneybaby said:

but she said it...

And I remember her saying ARTPOP is her best work to date. Until Cheek To Cheek came to save her, and show the 'real' her, blah blah. You can see now she is getting ready to do the same thing. I wouldn't be surprised when she drops LG5 if she says it is her first true album, showcases her artistic integrity, and so on. I'm not shading her, but I think we need to accept that she is like that. A person who is extremely sensitive and passionate about their work. So it is normal that she is excited about her current and new projects as she moves on. But that shouldn't take away from our enjoyment and pleasure. If BTW is your favourite, great, nothing's stopping you from loving it. We don't need Gaga's opinion.

Gaga loves all 5 albums she has released so far, I'm sure about that. And now that there's enough distance in time between them she is able to analyse and look into them in retrospective. And this actually proves how much she cares about her work being understood, being appreciated. It's a good point to make for those fans that say "she doesn't give a f*ck about what people say or think". Nope, she is just not that kind of person. If she didn't care she would have moved on shortly after ARTPOP and never mention it again. The fact that it's more than 2 years after her worst time and she is still talking about it (thankfully in a very mature and sober way) means she want to do herself justice, rightfully so, and move on. 

[The Child 18,997]

23 hours ago, ViviLittleM said:

Recycled instrumentals

And how does that away the quality from it? 

I never understood this, just because it's a recycled instrumental doesn't mean it's automatically bad. 

[giskardsb 12,565]

23 minutes ago, CrazyMonster said:

And how does that away the quality from it? 

I never understood this, just because it's a recycled instrumental doesn't mean it's automatically bad. 

Every producer has stuff sitting around waiting for the right project. It's normal. Bloody Mary was a pre-existing instrumental and nobody complains about that.  It's just another excuse by some to **** on ARTPOP. 

[The Child 18,997]

On 10 janvier 2016 at 10:44 PM, giskardsb said:

Every producer has stuff sitting around waiting for the right project. It's normal. Bloody Mary was a pre-existing instrumental and nobody complains about that.  It's just another excuse by some to **** on ARTPOP. 

Like okay guys you hate ARTPOP we get it but thinking that a recycled instrumental is an argument to make a song look bad is just wrong.

Like we could say that C2C has recycled songs but does that make it a bad album? No.

Unfortunately they'll never stop hating on ARTPOP and finding reasons to hate it, like for example I like ARTPOP, it's an okay album, I love to shade it but I'll never invent reasons to make it look bad.

[Guest]

LG5 is coming for The Fame and Fame Monster's weaves, ladies and gents. 

[shoful 13,304]

I know that ARTPOP doesn't live up to her real lyric writing abilities, but I still love the album because it's just so much fun to listen to and it always puts me in a good mood. I don't think it was ever meant to have amazing lyrics just fun and silly ones. 

[hELXIG 42,882]

Guys. She, is, not, dragging, BTW.

She made two linked, but not directly related statements, which makes things sound confusing:

First she says that if you don't give artists time to work hard that they can't put in what it takes to 'pull the gold'. A generalised statement about the music industry and how they to rush artists.

Then she goes on to say that artists each have their own way of writing, and that her 'way' is a piano and the beach, and that she had that freedom while writing her first two records (which was nice to have, and helpful). She's saying that she more recently got sick of being rushed because it was more difficult for her, and that she's decided to just do it her way from now on.

She didn't say that there was anything lacking in her other albums. There was no shade, or implications, or anything about not having the time during BTW and it lowering the quality of her work.

It's like she's saying that it could have gone that way if she didn't take back control. (which she's spoken about before)

There's no way that she would shade BTW. It's her baby. She worked extremely hard on that album (even if she did write it while busy on the road and not relaxing at the beach like she would have preferred). It is a fricken masterpiece, carefully crafted with intricate layers, and artistry in every song, with a high production value. And she knows that! She's always been outspoken about being proud of BTW and really writing the music she wanted to write, and making statements about what she finds important.

[Dominic 11,922]

18 hours ago, giskardsb said:

Every producer has stuff sitting around waiting for the right project. It's normal. Bloody Mary was a pre-existing instrumental and nobody complains about that.  It's just another excuse by some to **** on ARTPOP. 

I'm not a massive fan of 'recycled beats' because Gaga has always been the craftsman of her own work and this is why a majority fell in love with her work and her work ethic.   

Bloody Mary may well have been an existing instrumental however it was used effectively and formed a great relationships with the lyrics she wrote however compare this to say Donatella (Whose instrumental can be seen as pretty 'common')  and you can see a total difference in the way it was created. 

I prefer a more organic Gaga sound,  it doesn't mean I hate ARTPOP at all,  I just think it lacks a certain charm compared to the previous. 

[Didymus 34,379]

1 hour ago, helxig said:

She didn't say that there was anything lacking in her other albums. There was no shade, or implications, or anything about not having the time during BTW and it lowering the quality of her work.

I didn't say she dragged it, but the interview speaks for itself (and when you take into account previous interviews the case gets even stronger). No, she doesn't think the albums are bad, but why would she refer explicitly to her first two albums to describe the proper way of writing and recording an album if not to put the other two in perspective?

She already said that during ARTPOP she didn't even want to go near her piano because it confronted her with the madness of what she was doing (pleasing everyone around her instead of herself).

There was most definitely an implication about being rushed, otherwise she would have included BTW among her albums for which she was able to take the time and simply call the record label when her work was done without any added pressure. She obviously was rushed and when you listen to what that means in the interview, I don't see no good reason to conclude that that somehow doesn't affect the quality.

And this:

"I give it all every time when I'm healthy. When I'm not healthy, when I'm not happy, I can't.. I literally can't, it's like an athlete in the Olympics. You know, if you don't let them train, they can't.. can't pull the gold."

is not a general statement. She said it right after describing how different it is working with Bobby: he makes sure she's healthy and is happy with her work without adding any pressure. When there is pressure added and no one is taking care of her health, she can't give it her all. If that's not a suggestion that she wasn't in the right state of mind to even make BTW and ARTPOP then I must be crazy because to me it is.

So no, she isn't dragging her albums and obviously they're special for her, but I think you're going a bit too far with your interpretation too, clearly just because you love BTW so much.

[chicagomonster 4]

On 1/9/2016 at 1:12 PM, Bitter said:

I'm actually really fed up with her contradicting herself all the time.

Apparently for Gaga quality equals success.

I remember clearly her saying  before ARTPOP came out that it would be her best work and that it would be really difficult for her to top it in the future.

I'm beyond sure if BTW and ARTPOP were her most successful albums that she would have labelled them as her gold medals.

Of course after ARTPOP's underperformance she changed her mind.

Oh well.

i don't think that gaga thinks quality = success. i think that, as an artist, sometimes certain songs just don't sit with you well after a while. i don't think gaga would release anything that she didn't feel was her best work AT THE TIME but she is a perfectionist, and she is probably looking back and thinking about how she could have done so many things about the ARTPOP era differently.

[Whispering 18,865]

On January 10, 2016 at 2:50 AM, Didymus said:

Not people dissing J&D and The Fame

Don't touch my favs.

How people can't notice that TF is her most daring (and thoroughly composed) album in terms of sound and her most developed in terms of lyricism still remains a mystery to me. It's like this fanbase can't get over the fact that it sounds polished - if it sounds that clean, it has to be basic too. Weird and delusional logic.

Because people have different tastes in music. Fans are never going to agree on what is the best album, song, performance, video, etc. because they come from different perspectives and prefer different things. 

Also, quality is subjective. 

[JOANNE2016 173]

For me the only two things right with ARTPOP is the cover and the booklet. That's true potential but to my personal taste and sales numbers I didn't get that record. I do not like at all the demo sounds it feels. Sound more rushed than Born This Way. The Fame and The Fame Monster sound pure. You just can't skip a track. It's rolling into your ears like butter. It's soft. I really believe #LG5 will be pure.