Is Gaga the most talented modern artist?

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21 hours ago, LebaneseDude said:

lol @ some of you naming random indie musicians as being better artists than Gaga. 

Sure some of them may produce better music, but they don't know how to make anyone listen. They're probably better musicians, but they are nowhere near Gaga in artistry.

Picasso wasn't the best painter, but he knew how to attract people and make them appreciate the art. He was a truly great artist who managed to influence culture and inspire generations of painters.

Those random indie artists don't do that. They're the ones that draw pretty landscape drawings but don't actually know how to make people pay attention to what they have to say, except for the occasional pretentious "real music" seeker.

Gaga has the whole package... versatility, music, presence, vocal ability, performance, gravitas, power, message.

She utilizes them all effectively to create art that transcends into an experience, with influence Grimes and Co. can only dream of.

wellll...That's where you're wrong. These Indie artists have the full package of what an artist should be like. Their music is very true and no one is manipulating their sound but THEM. THEY decide what goes on their album and what doesn't. People don't really pay much attention to them because their work is either terrifying or too complex for the average music listener. An Indie artist has what every Mainstream artist should strive to be like. Creative Rebellions. Not puppets.

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3 hours ago, Mast said:

Being able to follow choreography =/= being a talented dancer. There's so much more behind dancing. Dance in an art. There is form, theory, and meaning behind it, which Gaga has never studied.

I've already given my two cents on her Golden Globe nomination and how she was guaranteed one before the show even aired. She was the only female in the cast who was eligible for it, and AHS is guaranteed an nomination every year. Not to mention she would be good for ratings since there would be a crossover audience. 

You need to at least be good to be able to follow a good choreography. And I highly doubt that if she was such a bad actor, she would be nominated (even with her popularity).

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3 hours ago, Mast said:

What? Lmfao, Einstein was an amazing physicist. That was his profession. His first paper was on Thermodynamic fluctuations and statistical physics. That's a really ****ing complicated concept. He was a master at what he did. He explained atomic phenomena through statistics. That requires a lot of knowledge.Same goes for his theories of relativity, photons, energy quanta, atomic vibrations, particle waves, quantum theory, etc.

He wasn't the most applied at a given single field though. His amazing broad knowledge of physics is what lead to all those theories you mention. In other words, he wasn't as good as he later became in the beginning.

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6 minutes ago, Enigma said:

You need to at least be good to be able to follow a good choreography. And I highly doubt that if she was such a bad actor, she would be nominated (even with her popularity).

I never she was a bad actress, just that the nomination was most likely not based on her performance. Seeing at how many times viewers and critics ripped her apart for her awkward delivery (there is no denying that Gaga had too many awkward line deliveries throughout the whole season) and lack of presence besides her flashbacks, it doesn't make sense that she'd be nominated for her acting, especially seeing the quality of her competitors.

 

And have you ever danced before? It's not hard to follow a choreography once it's broken down to you. It's a lot of repetition, and doing it over and over again drills the choreography into your head until you get to a point when you don't have to think about it anymore. It's not like her choreography is groundbreakingly hard. She has super simple choreography that's not particularly demanding. Remember when Boomkack herself said that Gaga had poor dancing ability and what they had to do was shoot her from flattering angles and film her strong moments? Yeah, she would know.

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1 minute ago, Mast said:

I never she was a bad actress, just that the nomination was most likely not based on her performance. Seeing at how many times viewers and critics ripped her apart for her awkward delivery (there is no denying that Gaga had too many awkward line deliveries throughout the whole season) and lack of presence besides her flashbacks, it doesn't make sense that she'd be nominated for her acting, especially seeing the quality of her competitors.

But the whole point is that we can at least agree that she is good at acting. Which adds another talent to her list of talents.

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15 minutes ago, Enigma said:

But the whole point is that we can at least agree that she is good at acting. Which adds another talent to her list of talents.

She's not good, she's okay. She can carry herself to be convincing enough, but not in a thoroughly effective way. Do you even read what I say or do you just nit pick to agree with yourself? Like I've said before, the only reason Gaga is carrying herself through the role of the countess is because the role was written after her. The Countess is a fashion minded gay icon and powerful female who has a somewhat sad backstory. The character is not a stretch for her because that's exactly who she is. All she's had to do for the most part is stand there and say lines, that's not a talent. I will call her talented the day that she can portray a middle aged crack head, a cunning detective, a mad scientist, a plumber, or any other role that has nothing to do with her persona. 

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3 minutes ago, Mast said:

She's not good, she's okay. She can carry herself to be convincing enough, but not in a thoroughly effective way. Do you even read what I say or do you just nit pick to agree with yourself?

Well, I personally thing she is at least good.

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Just now, Enigma said:

Well, I personally thing she is at least good.

Read my edit. She's at most, reaching, good. Obviously I don't hand out talent like candy like you do.

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5 minutes ago, Mast said:

Read my edit. She's at most, reaching, good. Obviously I don't hand out talent like candy like you do.

But once again, there aren't many people that do all the things Gaga does and doing as well as Gaga does them. Anyways, all of these is subjective. And its ok if we disagree.

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7 minutes ago, Enigma said:

But once again, there aren't many people that do all the things Gaga does and doing as well as Gaga does them. Anyways, all of these is subjective. And its ok if we disagree.

So? There are plenty of people who do less and do it much better than Gaga. And you're being generous with Gaga. The fact that they gave her an easy character to portray is not an opinion. It's a fact. It's a fact that it was written specifically for her.

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3 minutes ago, Mast said:

So? There are plenty of people who do less and do it much better than Gaga. And you're being generous with Gaga. The fact that they gave her an easy character to portray is not an opinion. It's a fact. It's a fact that it was written specifically for her.

I will agree with you on the easy character. That doesn't diminish her overall talent though.

[Lord Temptation 11,209]

The question is an oxymoron. There are no good artists or bad artists, only real artists and those who use art to promote their own agenda. A real artist makes you think, forces you to ask unsettling questions. Gaga is therefore a real artist. There are other singers (who I will not name but y'all know exactly who they are) who only use art to create a brand: pure self-promotion and commoditised authenticity. PEACE from a Little Monster in Sydney. 

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21 minutes ago, Mast said:

Read my edit. She's at most, reaching, good. Obviously I don't hand out talent like candy like you do.

God you're full of yourself.

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1 hour ago, Lord Temptation said:

God you're full of yourself.

Good to know.

[VenusBlackStar 1,301]

I think she's the most well-rounded and multi-talented artist in recent years, but she's not perfect at everything she does, and that's okay. lt's hard to answer questions like these because artists all have their skill sets and level of skills and some excel at things that others don't but there isn't anything wrong with that.