PlasticHo 697 Posted December 2, 2015 Share Posted December 2, 2015 @StrawberryBlond Most labels are all about the money. That's a given. Anyone who has followed Adele, knows she doesn't care about the fame or the money. The money is nice, but that's not her main focus by any means. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whispering 18,865 Posted December 2, 2015 Share Posted December 2, 2015 @StrawberryBlond So, it is clear that you ARE here for artists who make choices that you don't agree with and make decisions that put their life and happiness first. Otherwise, you wouldn't still be a fan of Lana's. Lana and Adele both have not taken the traditional routes of release, promo, tour. That was your parents' decision. Other parents make different decisions on how to raise their children. One choice I sn't more right than the other choice. Those decisions comes down to families' individual choices and no other person has a right to tell them they are making the wrong choice. 89% of the UK population listens to radio, and for 15- to 24-year-olds that figure is 83.4%. The average listening time across all ages is 21 hours a week. In the 15- to 24-year-old bracket, the average listening time is 15 hours a week. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrawberryBlond 13,938 Posted December 2, 2015 Share Posted December 2, 2015 Just now, Whispering said: @StrawberryBlond So, it is clear that you ARE here for artists who make choices that you don't agree with and make decisions that put their life and happiness first. Otherwise, you wouldn't still be a fan of Lana's. Lana and Adele both have not taken the traditional routes of release, promo, tour. That was your parents' decision. Other parents make different decisions on how to raise their children. One choice I sn't more right than the other choice. Those decisions comes down to families' individual choices and no other person has a right to tell them they are making the wrong choice. 89% of the UK population listens to radio, and for 15- to 24-year-olds that figure is 83.4%. The average listening time across all ages is 21 hours a week. In the 15- to 24-year-old bracket, the average listening time is 15 hours a week. I never said I'm not "here" for them. Obviously, if they're making music I like, I'll support them. But it doesn't mean I support every choice. For what it's worth, at least Lana releases music constantly. That's a major factor that keeps me as a fan. I partly stopped being a Christina fan because her breaks were getting too much and if she can't even come back with good music after all that time...Adele fans came back after one big break but who's to say it's always going to be like that? If you look at any artist who makes a habit of taking 4 year breaks between albums, their career's in the s*****r. But when you're a celebrity, it seems like you're allowed to make whatever choice you want without being criticised. In the real world, whatever choice you make gets criticised. I'm sure a lot of regular mothers would love a 5 year break from work after having a child but still get paid for it. It's ok for some, isn't it? For celebrities, you'd think looking after a child was some ridiculously massive time consuming thing that takes up every minute you breathe and that the child will grow up emotionally ruined if they're left without their parent for a couple of hours. If that's the case, don't ever send them to school, they'll need rehab! Pardon me, I'm just a realist. I find those statistics very hard to believe. Maybe all those listeners are people who work in an environment where the radio's always on (cafes, shops, etc). No one in my group of friends has ever said "let's turn on the radio." If we want to listen to music, we put on stuff we like. Every young person I see just plays music they want to listen to through their phone with YouTube and streaming. Why waste time with the radio on, waiting for a song you like. Cut out the middle man! There's only one reason to request songs on the radio anymore and that's if you don't have a music device on hand wherever you are. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whispering 18,865 Posted December 2, 2015 Share Posted December 2, 2015 Just now, StrawberryBlond said: I never said I'm not "here" for them. Obviously, if they're making music I like, I'll support them. But it doesn't mean I support every choice. For what it's worth, at least Lana releases music constantly. That's a major factor that keeps me as a fan. I partly stopped being a Christina fan because her breaks were getting too much and if she can't even come back with good music after all that time...Adele fans came back after one big break but who's to say it's always going to be like that? If you look at any artist who makes a habit of taking 4 year breaks between albums, their career's in the s*****r. But when you're a celebrity, it seems like you're allowed to make whatever choice you want without being criticised. In the real world, whatever choice you make gets criticised. I'm sure a lot of regular mothers would love a 5 year break from work after having a child but still get paid for it. It's ok for some, isn't it? For celebrities, you'd think looking after a child was some ridiculously massive time consuming thing that takes up every minute you breathe and that the child will grow up emotionally ruined if they're left without their parent for a couple of hours. If that's the case, don't ever send them to school, they'll need rehab! Pardon me, I'm just a realist. I find those statistics very hard to believe. Maybe all those listeners are people who work in an environment where the radio's always on (cafes, shops, etc). No one in my group of friends has ever said "let's turn on the radio." If we want to listen to music, we put on stuff we like. Every young person I see just plays music they want to listen to through their phone with YouTube and streaming. Why waste time with the radio on, waiting for a song you like. Cut out the middle man! There's only one reason to request songs on the radio anymore and that's if you don't have a music device on hand wherever you are. People criticize celebrities constantly from the clothes they wear to who they date to how they style their eyebrows. They are more scrutinized than the average joe, not less. There are plenty of non-celebrity mothers and fathers who make the choice to stay home with their babies and young children for varying amounts of time. The choice is theirs and no one else's. They are no different than celebrities, in regards to their right to their own decisions concerning raising their children. Their children...their choice! That's not being a realist, that's being judgmental over something that is none of your concern. They are not your children, therefore you have no say. As long as the child isn't in an abusive environment, it is none of your business. When and if you have your own children, you can make your own parenting decisions and no one should be telling you it is wrong or right to stay home for a period of time or to go back to work. I can't speak for you and your friends listening habits, but the numbers posted above are the statistics that are based on research and facts. You and your friends must be in the 11 to 16 percent that don't listen to radio very often. That still leaves a larger percentage that do listen to the radio frequently. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrawberryBlond 13,938 Posted December 2, 2015 Share Posted December 2, 2015 Just now, Whispering said: People criticize celebrities constantly from the clothes they wear to who they date to how they style their eyebrows. They are more scrutinized than the average joe, not less. There are plenty of non-celebrity mothers and fathers who make the choice to stay home with their babies and young children for varying amounts of time. The choice is theirs and no one else's. They are no different than celebrities, in regards to their right to their own decisions concerning raising their children. Their children...their choice! That's not being a realist, that's being judgmental over something that is none of your concern. They are not your children, therefore you have no say. As long as the child isn't in an abusive environment, it is none of your business. When and if you have your own children, you can make your own parenting decisions and no one should be telling you it is wrong or right to stay home for a period of time or to go back to work. I can't speak for you and your friends listening habits, but the numbers posted above are the statistics that are based on research and facts. You and your friends must be in the 11 to 16 percent that don't listen to radio very often. That still leaves a larger percentage that do listen to the radio frequently. There is no denying that being a singer means you'll lead a different life to other people, a life that gives you license to have a lot more "breaks." Not many people could take 2 years out of their job as a matter of course, but for a singer, it's perfectly normal. They can tour or not tour, long tours or short tours. It means they can actually get more time with their children than a civilian parent does, not less. My dad didn't come home from work until 9:50pm for his most common shift. If it wasn't that, he was working night shifts, so he'd be asleep all day and the only time I'd see him is briefly first thing in the morning and around dinner time. And he worked almost every day, even weekends. Until he retired 2 years ago, I'd never seen him for more than 2 days in a row straight, except when he got a surprising bit of time off (which was brief) or we took our annual fortnight's holiday. Throughtout my entire childhood, I only saw my dad for less than 5 hours a day most of the time. Did I become a mental wreck because of this? No. Did I even think it weird? No. If he was a singer with a studio in the house, I'd see him all the time. So, it pisses me off how these celebrity parents act like they need to be around their kids constantly because it's bad to leave them without one parent or put them in the care of others. They can arrange it so their kid is always with them. That's a slap in the face to every family where the parents work. You say I'm being judgemental to them? They're being judgemental to us. As our population is much smaller, the percentages aren't impressive, though. Out of 65 million people, just under 15 million listen to the most popular station, BBC Radio 2. Around 10 million for the second most popular, Radio 4 and so on. Since Nick Grimshaw became the breakfast presenter on Radio 1, he's lost the station over 1 million listeners, with an average of 5.5 million. And who knows how long these listeners even listen for? They might just like one segment. Everywhere I look, all I see is people talking over radio, just having it on for background noise (don't know why it's even on), or switching it off or lowering volume while driving so they can talk. So, that shows that just because they're tuning in doesn't mean anyone's listening! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whispering 18,865 Posted December 3, 2015 Share Posted December 3, 2015 3 minutes ago, StrawberryBlond said: There is no denying that being a singer means you'll lead a different life to other people, a life that gives you license to have a lot more "breaks." Not many people could take 2 years out of their job as a matter of course, but for a singer, it's perfectly normal. They can tour or not tour, long tours or short tours. It means they can actually get more time with their children than a civilian parent does, not less. My dad didn't come home from work until 9:50pm for his most common shift. If it wasn't that, he was working night shifts, so he'd be asleep all day and the only time I'd see him is briefly first thing in the morning and around dinner time. And he worked almost every day, even weekends. Until he retired 2 years ago, I'd never seen him for more than 2 days in a row straight, except when he got a surprising bit of time off (which was brief) or we took our annual fortnight's holiday. Throughtout my entire childhood, I only saw my dad for less than 5 hours a day most of the time. Did I become a mental wreck because of this? No. Did I even think it weird? No. If he was a singer with a studio in the house, I'd see him all the time. So, it pisses me off how these celebrity parents act like they need to be around their kids constantly because it's bad to leave them without one parent or put them in the care of others. They can arrange it so their kid is always with them. That's a slap in the face to every family where the parents work. You say I'm being judgemental to them? They're being judgemental to us. As our population is much smaller, the percentages aren't impressive, though. Out of 65 million people, just under 15 million listen to the most popular station, BBC Radio 2. Around 10 million for the second most popular, Radio 4 and so on. Since Nick Grimshaw became the breakfast presenter on Radio 1, he's lost the station over 1 million listeners, with an average of 5.5 million. And who knows how long these listeners even listen for? They might just like one segment. Everywhere I look, all I see is people talking over radio, just having it on for background noise (don't know why it's even on), or switching it off or lowering volume while driving so they can talk. So, that shows that just because they're tuning in doesn't mean anyone's listening! So, you are basically bitter that your parents didn't have the means to spend time with you and have decided that people that do have the means and opportunity to spend time with their kids are doing that to judge parents who don't? My parents weren't singers of celebrities and they had way more time than you are describing with us. I had friends and family members who had stay at home parents or a parent, due to them having the means to do so or having jobs where they could work from home. None of these parents were celebrities. No one is claiming that anyone is going to be a "wreck" due to their parents being home with them or not. You are the one jumping to that conclusion. Yes, you are being judgemental. People who are able to stay home or spend time with their kids aren't being judgemental by having that choice. They simply had the means or the types of jobs that would allow for this kind of flexibility. How is making a choice for your family being judgemental? That's ridiculous. The statistcs show the percentages and the amount of time that the age groups listen to the radio. Lol...at you now claiming that all those millions of people are talking over the radio or have it on too low to warrent that they are actually listening. You are really grasping to try and prove that your inaccurate assessment was correct, when the facts show that you were wrong about radio listeners. You have seen these millions of people, all over the country, at every moment of the day...and you know that they are turning the radio to minimal levels and talking over it? Hahaha Where is that smh emoticon when you need it? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PlasticHo 697 Posted December 3, 2015 Share Posted December 3, 2015 @Whispering I believe you are saying it perfectly in regards to raising children and how it shouldn't be frowned upon if you do have that extra time to be with them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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