No refugees anymore for Poland after Paris attacks: minister

[Truth 90]

1 hour ago, Qualle1 said:

I am very sorry, but Germany can NOT shelter every refugee comming to Europe.

Germany is already in a "state of emergency" because of the hundreds of thousands of refugees, which came within the last couple of weeks.

Do you actually know, how few refugees Poland and the other b---hing Eastern European countries have taken until yet?

 

 

I know well that Germany cannot take everyone, this is why I say from the beginning of the crisis that there must be a better solution than inviting about 40 millions of people from the Middle East and Africa to Europe (there are billions of people who suffer, though. is it possible to shelter them all? no). However, Merkel said that Germany WILL take EVERY refugee and this is mainly why this country is their desired destination.

So how are you going to force refugees to stay in countries like Poland? Will you lock them in prisons? Because they will try to escape otherwise. Also, how many refugees say that they want to be in Poland? None, they know it's a poor country, they come to Europe, because they want to have higher standard of living. Moreover, what would they do in Poland? There is a high unemployment rate (although millions of Poles left to the Western countries), so they'll be either unemployed and on the dole that is about 200 euro a month or they will try to escape to any western country. If you cannot force them to stay in Turkey, Hungary, Serbia, Slovenia, Austria, Croatia and other countries that are not war zones, you will not force them to go to Poland, either - and this is my point here.

By the way, Poland has taken only about 500 refugees from Syria (however, they escaped to Germany within weeks), but also over 500 000 refugees from Ukraine, thousands refugees from Chechnya (they are mainly Muslims), and several more nations that EU countries didn't want to shelter. So it's pretty a bad argument to accuse them of being not welcome, it is rather that their economic situation is too bad even to take care of their own population.

[Qualle1 1,385]

1 hour ago, lego said:

If most of them feel this way, with the all refugee crisis, I guess it's only fair that Polish ECONOMIC IMMIGRANTS should be sent back home from the UK and other Western EU countries.

And as @Qualle1 said, if there is no shared  responsibility, no more money from EU either.  

Oh, that's a great idea! 

If the Polish citizens would get kicked out of Germany (currently ca. 610.000), we would have enough accomodation facilities and jobs for currently ca. 610.000 refugees from Syria! 

Asylum seeker problem solved! 

[Melech 9,900]

19 minutes ago, Qualle1 said:

Oh, that's a great idea! 

If the Polish citizens would get kicked out of Germany (currently ca. 610.000), we would have enough accomodation facilities and jobs for currently ca. 610.000 refugees from Syria! 

Asylum seeker problem solved! 

Disgusting.

[Melech 9,900]

47 minutes ago, Qualle1 said:

I am very sorry, but Germany can NOT shelter every refugee comming to Europe.

Germany is already in a "state of emergency" because of the hundreds of thousands of refugees, which came within the last couple of weeks.

Do you actually know, how few refugees Poland and the other b---hing Eastern European countries have taken until yet?

 

 

You do know that most Eastern European countries don't have euros and standard of life or economy like you have in Germany?

[Qualle1 1,385]

34 minutes ago, Simon said:

Disgusting.

*ROLLING EYES*

I was just kidding, Simon...

I didn't use three smilies - after each and every of my three sentences within my post - without a reason.

If you wanna read "disgusting posts", you better have a closer look at your own posting history...

[Miker 5,683]

Struggling countries are less inclined to be able to protect themselves against terrorism because they can't afford the security. Also the refugees would prefer to enter richer countries like Germany.

Each country is responsible to safeguard their citizens and if they believe their solution presently is to close their borders for the betterment of their people then who can question their rationale. Decisions like this are difficult to make and understand but they are made for a reason. 

[Qualle1 1,385]

34 minutes ago, Simon said:

You do know that most Eastern European countries don't have euros and standard of life or economy like you have in Germany?

That's the reason, why there is actually a "quotation agreement" within the European Union, Mr. Know-it-all!

[MonsterMum 2,532]

1 These refugees don't even want to go to Poland so it's all scaremongering anyways if you ask me. 

2 Saying Poles need to go back to Poland cause they are immigrants is rubbish because:

- Polish immigrants were legal.

- Migration was negotiated on international level.

- Migration/freedom of movement was in concert with specific reforms in Poland.

- In exchange, foreign companies got good tax deals in the Polish economy, which was at that moment still an uncompetitive market, so you profited as well. There is no free money in this world.

- Poles work, pay taxes and integrate smoothly and happily.

3 The whole V4 is against immigrants, why singling out Poland as the bad guy now. Don't even get started about the fence in Hungary cause Austria did now the same only calling it a technical devise so as long as it's not called a fence it's not a fence and nobody said anything about it.

I think Poland is looking at this situation long term. The people causing the Paris mayhem must have been 2nd or 3rd generation of (probably badly integrated) French muslims.

There is no money to fund proper integration in Poland, on a large scale and that's probably a risk they are not willing to take.

 

 

 

 

 

[EdX 2,901]

As much as I support allowing refugees in Europe, I agree that it's being dealt with pretty badly. Therefore, the borders for Europe (especially, for the less-developed countries) should be closed for refugees FOR NOW. Or at least there would have to be HEAVY control on these borders. Until safety (and attitude, tbh) problems are solved, we should not let any person come into our countries. IMO

[Teal Ambition 47,805]

6 hours ago, doveve said:

Hope my country decides not to take in refugees too. After what happened in France, I started not to trust refugees at all. It's actually sad knowing that there are innocent and honest people among refugees. 

Agreed. Our new PM has promised to bring in 25,000 refugees by the of the year...

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It's such a shame people doesn't know refuges are actually running from the ISIS ****

[TiphEret 1,320]

When logic fails:

Most attackers in Paris are French or Belge citizen

Refugees asking asylum are mostly from the Middle East

Let's close the borders because of terrorists attacks...

How about we take a good look at ourselves and how we see , treat and disrespect the Middle East , then we know why integration of diverse culture fail if the majority never question the legitimacy of its own cultural values. Time to open our eyes and not close the door. I can't at stupidity anymore...

[Melech 9,900]

1 hour ago, Qualle1 said:

That's the reason, why there is actually a "quotation agreement" within the European Union, Mr. Know-it-all!

Well, the EU forces a lot of stuff on its members. I mean the euro in Greece also didn't function, didn't it, Mr Know-it-all?

[nikola 4,342]

I hate that so manny innocent refugees will be affected by this and i wish that this could be avoided but i feel lie its a righz choice after what happened.....like i know that they would find a way to smuggle them in anyway but it would be harder......refugee situattion only helped them smuggle them in.....i just hope innocent ones will be ok

[Dramatica 13,698]

36 minutes ago, TiphEret said:

When logic fails:

Most attackers in Paris are French or Belge citizen

Refugees asking asylum are mostly from the Middle East

Let's close the borders because of terrorists attacks...

How about we take a good look at ourselves and how we see , treat and disrespect the Middle East , then we know why integration of diverse culture fail if the majority never question the legitimacy of its own cultural values. Time to open our eyes and not close the door. I can't at stupidity anymore...

French isn't closing its borders in the way : They want no one to step foot in there. "Closing borders" means they control each and every one of those who would like to come. I guess it's the right thing, because now that all the eyes are targeted towards Paris, other parts of the country become vulnerable. It's easier to control 10.000 people (example) coming each day, then control 65 millions of people.