Melech 9,900 Posted November 15, 2015 Author Share Posted November 15, 2015 1 minute ago, lordgagx said: Did I say that ? My point is that France is for me responsible of what's happening in its own country. Yeah, you just said it again. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lordgagx 5,467 Posted November 15, 2015 Share Posted November 15, 2015 1 minute ago, Simon said: Yeah, you just said it again. Lol, I'll let you believe what u want. U seem to have your opinion and don't want to understand mine. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mobster 14,604 Posted November 15, 2015 Share Posted November 15, 2015 It's so sad to see what these 8 people have caused.... Not only the immense damage to the families of the victims, but to people using this to fuel their ideals... That's exactly what this terror organization wants, that's exactly what they have been doing... They divide people, they manage for innocent people to be seen as enemies... Not allowing refugees to enter our countries but leaving them stranded when they are afraid of the exact same things as we are... You guys complain about people neglecting the other lives taken last night... Their lives are exactly as important as ours, that's why we have to protect them and not just give ourselves a false feeling of accomplishment by using hashtags like #PrayForTheWorld!! But I'm only a man and I do what I can. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadow 6,697 Posted November 15, 2015 Share Posted November 15, 2015 It's unfortunate, but I don't blame them. They have to do what is smart and moral for their people. I'd rather people there be alive than try to be PC for European affairs. Did the French that died deserve their fates? Neither do the Polish. Stand in the light, cast your shadow. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lego 44,165 Posted November 15, 2015 Share Posted November 15, 2015 If most of them feel this way, with the refugee crisis, I guess it's only fair that Polish ECONOMIC IMMIGRANTS should be sent back home from the UK and other Western EU countries. And as @Qualle1 said, if there is no shared responsibility, no more money from EU either. FreePalestine Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melech 9,900 Posted November 15, 2015 Author Share Posted November 15, 2015 4 minutes ago, lego said: If most of them feel this way, with the all refugee crisis, I guess it's only fair that Polish ECONOMIC IMMIGRANTS should be sent back home from the UK and other Western EU countries. And as @Qualle1 said, if there is no shared responsibility, no more money from EU either. Personally I think that refugees should be taken by poland. Though I think it's weird that Poland receives that blacklash while there are tons of countries in the middle east or asia closed their borders. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lego 44,165 Posted November 15, 2015 Share Posted November 15, 2015 Just now, Simon said: Personally I think that refugees should be taken by poland. Though I think it's weird that Poland receives that blacklash while there are tons of countries in the middle east or asia closed their borders. Every EU country who blames attack in France on refugees deserves a backlash. There are 20 million people of Polish diaspora. They were once refugees too and the West took them. They are today economic immigrants and the Wests takes them. But they just want to close their borders. Fine. Take back your people too, make space for refugees in West. FreePalestine Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bionic 50,111 Posted November 15, 2015 Share Posted November 15, 2015 1 hour ago, Qualle1 said: If Poland won't take any by the European Union assigned refugees anymore, they should not get one single Euro transfer payments anymore from the EU. The same goes for every other country in the European Union, especially for the East European countries. Absolute punishment is a slippery slope. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
teo 609 Posted November 15, 2015 Share Posted November 15, 2015 If the majority of people support this decision than ok, but it wont help them imo. There will always be a few crazy people with EU citizenship who will be able to do bad stuff with or without the refugees. If anything they are sending the wrong message that they're giving up to the terrorists. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melech 9,900 Posted November 15, 2015 Author Share Posted November 15, 2015 4 minutes ago, lego said: Every EU country who blames attack in France on refugees deserves a backlash. There are 20 million people of Polish diaspora. They were once refugees too and the West took them. They are today economic immigrants and the Wests takes them. But they just want to close their borders. Fine. Take back your people too, make space for refugees in West. I don't think Poland blames the refugees at the first place, they have fear that sleepers might be in there + Poland isn't the richest country and need to cope with their own population. That's why so many Poles live in the outside. Also I think your way of thought is really questionable and dangerous. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Truth 90 Posted November 15, 2015 Share Posted November 15, 2015 15 minutes ago, lego said: Every EU country who blames attack in France on refugees deserves a backlash. There are 20 million people of Polish diaspora. They were once refugees too and the West took them. They are today economic immigrants and the Wests takes them. But they just want to close their borders. Fine. Take back your people too, make space for refugees in West. But what is the logic to send refugees to a country that cannot take care of its own inhabitants? There is a reason why there are so many Polish immigrants everywhere all around the world. As far as I'm concerned, there is no real industry to create workplaces, so also high unemployment rate; social help is too low to afford anything. I know people who work in Switzerland (I work with them as well) and they WANT to come back to Poland, but they country doesn't give a damn about their situation and does nothing to give them jobs in their own country. Many Western countries, on the other hand, need the cheap workforce so they are welcoming them - it is about economy, not about helping the poor from Poland. Not to mention that refugees avoid Poland as they know they can lead better lives in Germany, France or Sweden. Do you know that Poland has already accepted refugees? And do you know where they are now? In Germany. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Truth 90 Posted November 15, 2015 Share Posted November 15, 2015 6 minutes ago, Simon said: I don't think Poland blames the refugees at the first place, they have fear that sleepers might be in there + Poland isn't the richest country and need to cope with their own population. That's why so many Poles live in the outside. Also I think your way of thought is really questionable and dangerous. I couldn't agree more with you, this is exactly what I hear from the Poles I know. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AbuHassan1992 766 Posted November 15, 2015 Share Posted November 15, 2015 4 hours ago, doveve said: Hope my country decides not to take in refugees too. After what happened in France, I started not to trust refugees at all. It's actually sad knowing that there are innocent and honest people among refugees. you've got it backwards. The refugees are trying to get away from ISIS. "It's actually sad knowing that there are innocent and honest people among refugees. " more like "There are evil people among refugees. You're saying most of them are bad. They're normal people like you and me. DO NOT blame the refugees for this. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
doveve 526 Posted November 15, 2015 Share Posted November 15, 2015 1 minute ago, Datguy said: you've got it backwards. The refugees are trying to get away from ISIS. "It's actually sad knowing that there are innocent and honest people among refugees. " more like "There are evil people among refugees. You're saying most of them are bad. They're normal people like you and me. DO NOT blame the refugees for this. Well, I don't know what's the quantity of bad people among refugees. Maybe 2% maybe 62% and it's not the main issue. The main issue is that now that there's a possibility that terrorists come to Europe as refugees I am not willing to accept refugees, because I cannot know for sure that they all are good people. I don't want to go to the shop and be killed. I think that the feeling of safety is basic right of any human. I do understand that these refugees only want a better and safer life, but so do I and so did all these people who were killed in Paris. All in all, it's a complicated issue and every single person has a different opinion about it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Qualle1 1,385 Posted November 15, 2015 Share Posted November 15, 2015 1 hour ago, Truth said: As far as I know the majority of immigrants want to live only in Germany, so I don't think it's a problem that Poland is not keen on taking them. My colleague is from Poland and she told me that there were some refugees invited already, however, they escaped to Germany as soon as they could. I wonder how EU wants to force the refugees to stay in countries that they don't like (like Hungary, Lithuania, Slovakia or Poland for instance) - would they lock them there just to prevent them from going to Germany or Sweden? Also, there are countries in Europe (Poland is one of them) that are simply too poor and cannot guarantee anything even its own citizens. Even Poles escape from Poland, because there are neither workplaces nor any welfare support. I am very sorry, but Germany can NOT shelter every refugee comming to Europe. Germany is already in a "state of emergency" because of the hundreds of thousands of refugees, which came within the last couple of weeks. Do you actually know, how few refugees Poland and the other b---hing Eastern European countries have taken until yet? MAKE LOVE NOT WAR Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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