Fiona Apple 13,006 Posted November 15, 2015 Share Posted November 15, 2015 No Adele Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry 26,836 Posted November 15, 2015 Share Posted November 15, 2015 3 minutes ago, Gagamel said: So when Taylor does it "wow so money hungry, stop taylor u've enough!" but when Adele does it "its the right decision! i dont see anything wrong with that!" lovely cool assumption! but no i think taylor can sell her music however she likes, just like any artist. thanks for trying though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gagamel 3,410 Posted November 15, 2015 Share Posted November 15, 2015 1 minute ago, Harry said: cool assumption! but no i think taylor can sell her music however she likes, just like any artist. thanks for trying though. did i quote you tho? im just talking about the general consensus of this forum Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yves 1,891 Posted November 15, 2015 Share Posted November 15, 2015 5 minutes ago, Gagamel said: So when Taylor does it "wow so money hungry, stop taylor u've enough!" but when Adele does it "its the right decision! i dont see anything wrong with that!" lovely How lovely, indeed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry 26,836 Posted November 15, 2015 Share Posted November 15, 2015 Just now, Gagamel said: did i quote you tho? im just talking about the general consensus of this forum you didn't hit the quote button but you did directly reference my post "tho" - 'i dont see anything wrong with that!' only three people before you posted shared their opinion of it being a good decision. that's automatically the 'general consensus' of a forum with thousands of users? your post was referencing a few people, of which i was one, not the whole forum. so yeah you were talking to me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RAMROD 111,560 Posted November 15, 2015 Author Share Posted November 15, 2015 4 minutes ago, Gagamel said: did i quote you tho? im just talking about the general consensus of this forum But you certainly live for the responses tho? :fan: 。°(°.◜ᯅ◝°)°。 ✧*:・゚ you supposed to cook for us, AZ (˃̣̣̥ᯅ˂̣̣̥) ♡♡♡ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gagamel 3,410 Posted November 15, 2015 Share Posted November 15, 2015 1 minute ago, Harry said: you didn't hit the quote button but you did directly reference my post "tho" - 'i dont see anything wrong with that!' only three people before you posted shared their opinion of it being a good decision. that's automatically the 'general consensus' of a forum with thousands of users? your post was referencing a few people, of which i was one, not the whole forum. so yeah you were talking to me. I was just making an observation. When Taylor did it everybody jumped on that topic to call her money hungry, while the responses about Adele doing it are positive so far. Why would i be referencing you when i don't know if you were one of the people that was against Taylor doing it? I don't know anyone's opinion on both topics so i can't single out anyone. I was just talking about the general view on GGD so far and it just proves that no matter what Adele does it is guaranteed to be viewed in positive light and accepted. If i knew where you stood when Taylor did it, i would have singled you out and quoted you. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gagamel 3,410 Posted November 15, 2015 Share Posted November 15, 2015 9 minutes ago, RAMROD said: But you certainly live for the responses tho? :fan: I live for the applause henny Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry 26,836 Posted November 15, 2015 Share Posted November 15, 2015 15 minutes ago, Gagamel said: 2 minutes ago, Gagamel said: I was just making an observation. When Taylor did it everybody jumped on that topic to call her money hungry, while the responses about Adele doing it are positive so far. Why would i be referencing you when i don't know if you were one of the people that was against Taylor doing it? I don't know anyone's opinion on both topics so i can't single out anyone. I was just talking about the general view on GGD so far and it just proves that no matter what Adele does it is guaranteed to be viewed in positive light and accepted. If i knew where you stood when Taylor did it, i would have singled you out and quoted you. This is not even the same though. 1989 was kept from Spotify altogether whereas Adele's team just wants it to be available to paying customers. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gagamel 3,410 Posted November 15, 2015 Share Posted November 15, 2015 1 minute ago, Harry said: This is not even the same though. 1989 was kept from Spotify altogether whereas Adele's team just wants it to be available to paying customers. The point of both decisions is the same... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RAMROD 111,560 Posted November 15, 2015 Author Share Posted November 15, 2015 1 minute ago, Gagamel said: I live for the applause henny That's the right choice 。°(°.◜ᯅ◝°)°。 ✧*:・゚ you supposed to cook for us, AZ (˃̣̣̥ᯅ˂̣̣̥) ♡♡♡ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry 26,836 Posted November 15, 2015 Share Posted November 15, 2015 17 minutes ago, Gagamel said: The point of both decisions is the same... How is it? I don't even think artists earn more from listens from premium vs free users. If anything it just seems to me like Adele/her team would be encouraging people to subscribe with streaming services, encouraging the growth of that market. There's still technically a price on her music, but it's accessible. The more money Spotify makes = the more royalties they can afford to pay out to artists (you would hope). Taylor was protesting about underpayment but actively did the opposite of encouraging growth by removing her catalogue entirely and discouraging people from streaming (even though, like I said, I feel artists should be allowed to distribute however they like). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gagamel 3,410 Posted November 15, 2015 Share Posted November 15, 2015 1 minute ago, Harry said: How is it? I don't even think artists earn more from listens from premium vs free users. If anything it just seems to me like Adele/her team would be encouraging people to subscribe with streaming services, encouraging the growth of that market. There's still technically a price on her music, but it's accessible. Taylor was actively doing the opposite by removing her catalogue entirely (even though, like I said, I feel artists should be allowed to distribute however they like). The whole point of trashing Taylor was that she wants people to pay for her music and won't let people listen to it for free. And Adele is doing the same thing, she won't let people listen to it for free on spotify but they would have to pay. Do you really think that if she let them make her music subscriber only she won't take a cut of the subscriber money? You think saint Adele just wants to promote and encourage the market to grow without making a profit? This just proves my point further that anything Adele does is seen in a positive light. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GagaMyBlood95 9,915 Posted November 15, 2015 Share Posted November 15, 2015 She is Adele so I think she can set any demands she wants lol Spotify knows it will be their loss if they don't put 25 on their service. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry 26,836 Posted November 15, 2015 Share Posted November 15, 2015 1 minute ago, Gagamel said: The whole point of trashing Taylor was that she wants people to pay for her music and won't let people listen to it for free. And Adele is doing the same thing, she won't let people listen to it for free on spotify but they would have to pay. Do you really think that if she let them make her music subscriber only she won't take a cut of the subscriber money? You think saint Adele just wants to promote and encourage the market to grow without making a profit? This just proves my point further that anything Adele does is seen in a positive light. But they're different strategies. I don't know how people would've reacted to Taylor doing this because she didn't do it. That point you made about her taking a cut is based on pure speculation. "saint Adele" - why are you so bitter? I'm neutral to this whole thing. So because I'm supporting this one decision that "proves" that everything Adele does is seen positively? Of course she wants to profit. It's her job. So does Taylor Swift and every other artist, no matter how much they say they don't. It's a business and there's no shame in it. But I feel that encouraging people to pay for Spotify, thus boosting the money in that particular market, will benefit smaller artists who rely on the small amount of streams & sales they get more than someone like Taylor encouraging a boycott of it entirely. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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