Melech 9,900 Posted November 14, 2015 Share Posted November 14, 2015 Just now, Lil Alex said: they have been conditioned to those values, they have been forced into their brains since they were born, a person cannot simply change their mindset overnight because a european asks them lol. but nonono ur right, lets send them back because theyre homophobic, racist and s-xist and lets keep our fellow s-xist, racist and homophobic europeans. because that's bloody genius. Did you skipped the part where I said that they need to learn them first?! Nobody asks them too change them, they need to if they want to stay here. I'm not here for not feeling safe because of being gay or Jewish. Let's let them having homophobic and racist thought, because I mean it's bloody genius. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SEVDALIZA 1,274 Posted November 14, 2015 Share Posted November 14, 2015 1 minute ago, Simon said: Did you skipped the part where I said that they need to learn them first?! Nobody asks them too change them, they need to if they want to stay here. I'm not here for not feeling safe because of being gay or Jewish. Let's let them having homophobic and racist thought, because I mean it's bloody genius. no its okay i dont blame you if i was walking around with the idea that people should be sent back to their country to die, i'd be scared to walk among those people too, lmao use ya brain, if they were to try to attack anyone based on their s-xuality, race, s-x, gender, and so on, measures would be taken. i mean, if they're already attacked simply for being outsiders to you HONESTLY believe they'd get away with hate attacks? if they stay they will obviously adapt over time and learn Europe's "guidelines". if they don't, they die. choose. better yet, don't, cause i don't want millions to keep dying, and ur choice seems obvious operating from another world Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeoFameMonster 1,592 Posted November 14, 2015 Share Posted November 14, 2015 2 hours ago, lego said: The passport could be forged. How strange tho that every time they all have passport with them? How many people go everywhere with their passports? How many criminals do that? But every terrorist does, when they go to blow themselves up and it must be his real identity right? Well it makes sense if you need to leave the country right after. At a moments notice they might need to flee the country. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lego 44,165 Posted November 14, 2015 Share Posted November 14, 2015 1 minute ago, LeoFameMonster said: Well it makes sense if you need to leave the country right after. At a moments notice they might need to flee the country. They were talking about martyrdom, some of them had suicide vests on, so I'm pretty sure they knew they're gonna die. FreePalestine Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeoFameMonster 1,592 Posted November 14, 2015 Share Posted November 14, 2015 Just now, lego said: They were talking about martyrdom, some of them had suicide vests on, so I'm pretty sure they knew they're gonna die. but if they didn't get to follow through with it and got busted they would have to run, having your passport gives them that ability right. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Ricky 9,089 Posted November 14, 2015 Author Share Posted November 14, 2015 31 minutes ago, Lil Alex said: k so lets send them back to die bcause theyre rude, sounds gr8 Ofcourse they go back. And I'm not the fcking only one in my country who is pro that. Maybe you want ungrateful s--ts wanting more and more and not appreciating anything they get. There are people here who fled from war and have been fcking working their ass off (any kind of job) to get the needs they want, WITHOUT our government giving them anything other than a place to stay and a place where they could go to the food bank. You are not seeing this from our view, you are just accepting anything, just because they are refugees. If you want to stay, you fcking obey the rules and accept what you get. It's not that fcking hard, if you don't you just get the fck out. I'm seriously tired of people defending refugees just because they have war in their country, I do get it they run away from it, but if you don't open your eyes any further than just seeing them flee from war, you are just very wrong and missing their other side. There's no excuse from not accepting help the country is offering you. -- Crossfit Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melech 9,900 Posted November 14, 2015 Share Posted November 14, 2015 1 minute ago, Lil Alex said: no its okay i dont blame you if i was walking around with the idea that people should be sent back to their country to die, i'd be scared to walk among those people too, lmao use ya brain, if they were to try to attack anyone based on their s-xuality, race, s-x, gender, and so on, measures would be taken. i mean, if they're already attacked simply for being outsiders to you HONESTLY believe they'd get away with hate attacks? if they stay they will obviously adapt over time and learn Europe's "guidelines". if they don't, they die. choose. better yet, don't, cause i don't want millions to keep dying, and ur choice seems obvious Some of them (no need to make generalizations) already harass homos-xuals in refugee camps and some have said in interviews that "Jews are fault" for war in Syria. I don't agree with extreme anti-refugee people too, because those people need a chance. But if you are okay with people continue being homophobic,racist, or s-xist. Well that's is your opinion. But not mine since it would threat my existence. Nobody want millions to keep dying. As I said they have time to change when they want to stay here in a long-term. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whispering 18,865 Posted November 14, 2015 Share Posted November 14, 2015 18 minutes ago, Simon said: I talked with a refugee actually about that who is gay. He couldn't stay at his refugee centre because he got harassed by other refugees. If they don't learn to accept our values, they should be send back. With values i mean that they should get rid of their homophobia, racism and s-xism. Of course not now since they need to learn them first. You just don't go to a country because you are getting threatened in your home country and threat then people in your new country. It doesn't work like that. The large majority are not going to accept the values of countries they are going to. They are going to hold onto their religion and values that they have been born into/raised with/converted to. They aren't going to "learn these different values" and decide to change their whole way of thinking. When a country accepts a refugee, it accepts that person's religion and values along with them. A country can't force a different religion or value system on refugees. While many refugees do not go into other countries and threaten people in various ways, many do. It does "work like that" because that is the reality of the situation. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melech 9,900 Posted November 14, 2015 Share Posted November 14, 2015 Just now, Whispering said: The large majority are not going to accept the values of countries they are going to. They are going to hold onto their religion and values that they have been born into/raised with/converted to. They aren't going to "learn these different values" and decide to change their whole way of thinking. When a country accepts a refugee, it accepts that person's religion and values along with them. A country can't force a different religion or value system on refugees. While many refugees do not go into other countries and threaten people in various ways, many do. It does "work like that" because that is the reality of the situation. Well, I don't know the affects in a long term, so I kinda hope for the best thing Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whispering 18,865 Posted November 14, 2015 Share Posted November 14, 2015 6 minutes ago, lego said: They were talking about martyrdom, some of them had suicide vests on, so I'm pretty sure they knew they're gonna die. They want the world to know they are members of a certain terrorist group and the group wants the world to know who they were and who they represent. They aren't wanting to conceal the fact that they are part of a certain terrorist group...they are advertising it! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lego 44,165 Posted November 14, 2015 Share Posted November 14, 2015 1 minute ago, Whispering said: They want the world to know they are members of a certain terrorist group and the group wants the world to know who they were and who they represent. They aren't wanting to conceal the fact that they are part of a certain terrorist group...they are advertising it! That has nothing to do with passports. How were the other terrorists, the ones with French and Belgian passports advertising ISIS? FreePalestine Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Qualle1 1,385 Posted November 14, 2015 Share Posted November 14, 2015 44 minutes ago, Mr Ricky said: Innocent yes, grateful no. Then you go take in all the refugees who REFUSE to live under good condition. Refusing food, shelter and wanting more we are offering them. A new video got here, where they get interviewed, not wanting anything they get. Just think about that. I would like to learn more about the "ungratefulness", you are talking about. Why are they actually refusing food and shelter? I would also like to see the video. Thank you very much in advance! MAKE LOVE NOT WAR Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Ricky 9,089 Posted November 14, 2015 Author Share Posted November 14, 2015 Just now, Qualle1 said: I would like to learn more about the "ungratefulness", you are talking about. Why are they actually refusing food and shelter? I would also like to see the video. Thank you very much in advance! They're playing that "I rather die"-card. Then you have this one: It's partly in dutch. But this is one of the reasons, I get sick of them. While we do our utter best to provide them food and shelter. Not even our homeless individuals are getting anything. Crossfit Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whispering 18,865 Posted November 14, 2015 Share Posted November 14, 2015 33 minutes ago, lego said: That has nothing to do with passports. How were the other terrorists, the ones with French and Belgian passports advertising ISIS? How else will the world know who they are immediately, without identification? Intelligence agencies can use fingerprints to identify them, if they have been fingerprinted in that country or on file with fingerprints in another country that shares information with the inquiring country. Even then, many people in the world have never been officially fingerprinted. How were they advertising a terrorist group? They went over to the ME to get trained or they were members of that terrorist group. They want the world to know their names immediately, so they can be linked with whatever terrorist group they are a part of. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShockPop 7,747 Posted November 14, 2015 Share Posted November 14, 2015 The phrase is "when in rome, do as the romans do" not "When in rome, bomb the crap out of them until they do what you do in your own s--tty wartorn country" Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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