Are you stuck inside Gaga's world?

[Ronlop 6,882]

It's kind of genius (and I genuinely think this is one of Gaga's genius achievements, even though I'll probably be dragged for saying it) how Gaga managed to, with unique untried social media tools for which she will be remembered more than her fashion - trust me, build this community around her that is of such extreme commercial benefit due to personal entanglement. I mean, I know that everyone thinks Gaga has a genuine relationship with her fans blah blah, even if that's true, that still doesn't nullify the fascinating psychology tricks going on.

I mean, this whole "I can only feel good about myself until Gaga is on top and the queen and slayage etc. etc." movement is as scary as it is effective. Over the years I have found it shocking that Gaga pretends to be 100% unaware of this mechanism of psychological projection that's going on in her fanbase, to the extent that it's one of my prime reasons for thinking that Gaga may have unspoken motives in the way she approaches us.

I dunno, it'll be interesting to see it develop in the future. I'm glad that, even though I love discussing Gaga, I couldn't give one **** about her success (simply because I have so many other artists to pay attention to - probably why I'm saved from the curse), I'm not forsaking my life to make Gaga a richer woman. & I'm glad you had a very simple but dramatic realization about that too

I personally think Gaga is very well aware of that but is convincing herself that it's really genuine. It's like she obviously knows the consequences of her marketing herself like that (with the significant emphasis on the fans connection) but she also knows it's 'wrong' to think that way because she's a "serious artist" and she isn't supposed to aim for that kind of conneciton and especially for that specific purpose- commercial success. 

I don't know really. It's either she is kind of delusional or as you said, she might be pretending as if she isn't aware of all of this but is deliberately using it for the commercial purposes.  

[ANUSLOVER96 260]

yes honey. it's called growing up..

[Teal Ambition 47,805]

Couldn't have said it better myself. I have definitely distanced myself from Gaga's world in the last year and it feels great. I enjoy doing my own things rather than constantly discussing Gaga 24/7.
I still love her as much as before and always will but I need to put my own life first and when I accepted that I was much happier.

[kimchi 98]

Let's see what y'all have to say about that when the first single of LG5 drops 

[Andy McQueen 4,484]

My talent 

“Nothing in this world can take the place of persistence. Talent will not; nothing is more common than unsuccessful people with talent. Genius will not; unrewarded genius is almost a proverb. Education will not; the world is full of educated derelicts. Persistence and determination alone are omnipotent. The slogan 'press on' has solved and always will solve the problems of the human race...” ~ Calvin Coolidge

[Andy McQueen 4,484]

I get your point but why can't you live your life fully AND like Gaga ? I mean both can belong together

In my opinion, you just need to find a balance. 

We could, we could ...  belong together.  #ARTPOP

[Didymus 34,379]

I personally think Gaga is very well aware of that but is convincing herself that it's really genuine. It's like she obviously knows the consequences of her marketing herself like that (with the significant emphasis on the fans connection) but she also knows it's 'wrong' to think that way because she's a "serious artist" and she isn't supposed to aim for that kind of conneciton and especially for that specific purpose- commercial success. 

I don't know really. It's either she is kind of delusional or as you said, she might be pretending as if she isn't aware of all of this but is deliberately using it for the commercial purposes.  

You presented a good third alternative. She might know what she's doing and accept how it fits in Interscope's goal etc. but will still try to make positive change happen (and she does try) despite of that.

We'll probably never know anyway, but when you see fans who are basically realizing they've missed out on their actual lives, it's just sad that she never really talks about it but seems to glorify and intensify it.

[Fiona Apple 13,006]

“Nothing in this world can take the place of persistence. Talent will not; nothing is more common than unsuccessful people with talent. Genius will not; unrewarded genius is almost a proverb. Education will not; the world is full of educated derelicts. Persistence and determination alone are omnipotent. The slogan 'press on' has solved and always will solve the problems of the human race...” ~ Calvin Coolidge

Well..My low self esteem,my social awkwardness,my not-great appearance, my mediocre voice and my horrible songwriting skills keep my from making my dreams true.. 

[super ultra 878]

it's good to know I'm not the only one  I've been feeling this for like 1.5 years  oh God, that's the point where I can feel how much I've matured  

[Alien Tulip 12,428]

I understand what you're saying but idk in my case it's quite the opposite. Her inspirational journey to get to the top actually motivated me to push harder during my college years and I graduated with my masters a few months ago and I've been fascinated with her since 2008 but I never let my fascination with her interfere with my personal life. 

[Andy McQueen 4,484]

Well..My low self esteem,my social awkwardness,my not-great appearance, my mediocre voice and my horrible songwriting skills keep my from making my dreams true.. 

You definitely need a lot more confidence!   You will improve, but first of all you have to believe in yourself!!!

 

[Katie14 4,828]

You presented a good third alternative. She might know what she's doing and accept how it fits in Interscope's goal etc. but will still try to make positive change happen (and she does try) despite of that.

We'll probably never know anyway, but when you see fans who are basically realizing they've missed out on their actual lives, it's just sad that she never really talks about it but seems to glorify and intensify it.

Its like she stole a part of my life because she was my prime entertainment source for so long. I should have been using that time to discover what I like and who I am in the non media/cyber world. But I can't even blame her because I allowed it to happened.

[Tokyo Rose 1,475]

It's kind of genius (and I genuinely think this is one of Gaga's genius achievements, even though I'll probably be dragged for saying it) how Gaga managed to, with unique untried social media tools for which she will be remembered more than her fashion - trust me, build this community around her that is of such extreme commercial benefit due to personal entanglement. I mean, I know that everyone thinks Gaga has a genuine relationship with her fans blah blah, even if that's true, that still doesn't nullify the fascinating psychology tricks going on.

I mean, this whole "I can only feel good about myself until Gaga is on top and the queen and slayage etc. etc." movement is as scary as it is effective. Over the years I have found it shocking that Gaga pretends to be 100% unaware of this mechanism of psychological projection that's going on in her fanbase, to the extent that it's one of my prime reasons for thinking that Gaga may have unspoken motives in the way she approaches us.

I dunno, it'll be interesting to see it develop in the future. I'm glad that, even though I love discussing Gaga, I couldn't give one **** about her success (simply because I have so many other artists to pay attention to - probably why I'm saved from the curse), I'm not forsaking my life to make Gaga a richer woman. & I'm glad you had a very simple but inevitably dramatic realization about that too

A lot of the fanbase doesn't even participate in this stan/forum/community format. It's like a niche within a niche.

And Gaga doesn't have time to babysit her mentally ill fans. She lives in a totally different world than us. Remember when she tried to do a skype chat, or LM.com chats? 

But the people who went on and on about how she needs to be on top, are the same people who are never going to be satisfied anyway. In her mind, they probably don't get to define the whole fanbase.

 

[Judas Oyster 1,914]

I was stuck until 2012 or so and then I understood it. I still keep checking in for the music, and I like to read things about Gaga and also other relevant artists too. It keeps me updated on many things tho'. So, I'm in a way I'm not a fan like I was before, now I'm having a more relaxed "relationship" to what she does.

But I'm glad you realized this and focus on your life, that's the most important! :)

[AlexanderLevi2 5,849]

I can see your point but I think I am living my own life and enjoying a pop star's life as well. Honesty, without gaga's impact on my life, I wouldn't have been able to be courageous enough to do the things I'm doing now. And I don't think that's a bad thing. She's influencing a generation in the positive. Yes, she still needs to make her coins, but I think she loves the culture and community.

 

You can still enjoy Gaga's daily life AND do your own thing. 

 

Although one of the monsters I ran into dropped out school to follow her on the BTWB that is way too much. I'll go to her concert when it's around my city but I'm not going to drop everything for six months to go to every concert of hers