display name 4,360 Posted October 8, 2015 Share Posted October 8, 2015 I agree with a couple of his points. The pacing of the episode was messy, and yeah, I didn't quite care much for death-by-dildo either. I wouldn't say it was garbage though. The first episode just wasn't as promising as the firsts of other seasons. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
phantasmas 10,584 Posted October 8, 2015 Share Posted October 8, 2015 "gay people and stuff"is this person fresh out of high school? all their article is missing is a couple emojis here and there. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrewStevens 5,249 Posted October 8, 2015 Share Posted October 8, 2015 Gaga fans will love anything she does. Real people have real opinions that aren't quite as biased. I agree with some of it. The show overall was not very good. It's good to have an opinion but this review doesn't even make sense and it's obviously biased. "I was curious to see Greenfield’s attempt at playing what I assume was meant to be a gay man, because he’s funny and seems like a good guy[...] After that scene, I took to Twitter, as one does, to complain that the scene was basically treated as a joke, because isn’t gay rape so funny." That is stupid. Greenfield's character barely said a word and now suddenly he is gay. "If the scene, and the whole episode, wasn’t meant to be at least amusing, then why cast Greenfield, a comedic actor, to play a Brant brother–type only to quickly punish him with a horrific—and, again, incredibly graphic, given that it aired on basic cable!—rape?" How does he know that? Max Greenfield seems to have more scenes after this episode. Just because he has been in more comedy shows it doesn't mean RM had to cast him for a comedic role."What we have instead is a show where Ryan Murphy can indulge his fantasies about hairless, pouting pretty boys, while punishing or otherwise marginalizing limp-wristers and cross-dressers"When did he marginalized cross-dressers? Why did he have to get personal about Ryan Murphy's fantasies? Ryan Murphy already said that there's a good reason why they all look alike. Real people? What does "real people" mean? Fans are real people too.This review isn't trash, it's garbage. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
freebit 6,240 Posted October 8, 2015 Share Posted October 8, 2015 This is basically just one long rant. I think he's completely misinterpreting the scene with Max Greenfield...like what even. Also this is terribly written for something posted on Vanity Fair's website, even if it is just a blog and not part of the main editorial. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manul 7,377 Posted October 8, 2015 Share Posted October 8, 2015 I haven't seen it yet but I will add that rape scenes are becoming a new trend in media and it isn't healthy. Rape is a tragedy, not something that should be glamorized and used for 'dramatic, gritty plot settings" and such. I'm also worried about what impact this will have on Gaga herself. Sure, she is totally unrelated with said scene but she was part of the episode and well, she just released TIHTY, ffs... it wasn't laaaahv Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrewStevens 5,249 Posted October 8, 2015 Share Posted October 8, 2015 He was in it for like 5 seconds in the house when the alarms went off. He was the one walking in the shadows, I believe. But we don't even know that. He couldn't be cute either. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrewStevens 5,249 Posted October 8, 2015 Share Posted October 8, 2015 Rape is a tragedy, not something that should be glamorized and used for 'dramatic, gritty plot settings" and such.So is murder and torture. Making a big deal out of a rape scene but ignoring all the deaths in the series is quite illogical. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChasingGhosts 726 Posted October 8, 2015 Share Posted October 8, 2015 Jesus Christ if this is their piss poor excuse for a Hotel "review" I'd hate to see what they thought of Asylum or Freakshow. Born This Way > Joanne > The Fame Monster > The Fame > ARTPOP Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Desperado 2,439 Posted October 8, 2015 Share Posted October 8, 2015 "To which I say pffffft, as loud as I can. I may be a humorless square, a traitor to my camp-loving gay brothers and sisters, but so be it. As demonstrated in the first episode of the show’s fifth installment, Hotel, American Horror Story is garbage. Not trash. Trash can be fun. Garbage. Something we need to bag up and throw away, or flush and forget. Always a juvenile, antisocial show, A.H.S. reached what I hope is its nadir with the Hotel premiere, a confusingly paced, self-indulgent episode that managed to offend in myriad ways." ew who writes like that, so unprofessional. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Comet 371 Posted October 8, 2015 Share Posted October 8, 2015 Unfortunatley I have to agree with a lot of his points. Especially regarding Ryan Murphy. Episode felt like a mess of stories but I liked Gaga and Sarah. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manul 7,377 Posted October 8, 2015 Share Posted October 8, 2015 So is murder and torture. Making a big deal out of a rape scene but ignoring all the deaths in the series is quite illogical.Murder and torture in media, they're both really widespread as it is and there is nothing that can be done about them, sadly. However, if you think that media being in an already bad shape because of murder, torture, s-x, d--gs etc. Is an excuse to make it even worse by also making rape popular, your post doesn't make any sense. it wasn't laaaahv Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morphine Prince 106,103 Posted October 8, 2015 Author Share Posted October 8, 2015 The show is about portraying real life horror. Rape is included in that. AHS does a good job at showing how disgusting rape actually is. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JusKeepBreathin 19,311 Posted October 8, 2015 Share Posted October 8, 2015 The review is a bit pressed. Most seasons of AHS start with 4 or more different stories that come together as one. Coven did. Also I don't think he is punishing limp wristers, IMO, the rape scene it was more a commentary on s-x while on dope is basically rape because there is no inhibitions. Last nights episode is an introduction to the characters. It was well done. Also the I think Shirley Manson might disagree with his interpretation of trash vs garbage. "Nothing in the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity." -Martin Luther King Jr. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morphine Prince 106,103 Posted October 8, 2015 Author Share Posted October 8, 2015 Murder and torture in media, they're both really widespread as it is and there is nothing that can be done about them, sadly. However, if you think that media being in an already bad shape because of murder, torture, s-x, d--gs etc. Is an excuse to make it even worse by also making rape popular, your post doesn't make any sense.Look above. It didn't quote the first time for some reason. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GloZell Green 11,723 Posted October 8, 2015 Share Posted October 8, 2015 Oh the irony of this nobody voicing his pressed opinion Apparently he's a Jessica stan, which explains a lot. Even his writing "skills" are unprofessional. Lady Gaga | Shakira Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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