Los Angeles Gangs Are Aiming To Kill 100 People In 100 Days,

[Shadow 6,697]

What I don't understand is why cops are so gunshot about being brutal or shooting innocent or unarmed civilians numerous times across the nation and yet when you have known dangerous gangs in your city who have no regard to take human life roaming around like an urban jungle?  

Why don't cops use all those resources they got from the government and round up gang members based on where or who they affiliate themselves with? It's ridiculous of the scale of threat these gangs pose. They are going to turn LA into the next Mexico City or Juarez with this increased senseless violence. 

[LePetitGAGABLover 21,234]

by California do you mean Los Angeles? Because 95% of California is amazing.

Horrible weather and California are almost never used in the same sentence, but okay..

I've been to San Diego, Fresno, and LA and its always the same imo

Maybe California just doesn't like me

[Shadow 6,697]

WTF?! Killing for the sake of what? Win a bet? Are they kids playing GTA in real mode or what?

Someone please erase this people before they kill someone else.

 

Plus, gangs? Really? If you tell me you're on a gang in the year 2015 I will definitely laugh at you.

be careful, bud. Believe it or not, I used to know friends who were part of gangs when lived in New Mexico and even here in Dallas, TX, (don't think I'm affiliated just because I knew people since you can't just ignore them when you're in certain areas and not all of them are 100% bad, most are kids.) That culture is all based on certain codes and respect and if a gang member ever tells you they are part of a gang, it's not a good idea to laugh or disrespect in those situations.

It is usually a test to see if they can trust you and if you show any hint that they can't trust you, they'll lash out at you even when you don't expect it or feel safe in a public place. Don't underestimate their numbers, connections, or resources, especially if they're associated with a d--g cartel from south of the border.

[RebeldeFaith 5,745]

 

well its sort of a social conditioning thing. usually its their older brothers that recruit them into the gang and growing up in a place where the gangs have all the power makes you join out of fear sometimes rather than wanting to of your own free will. 

back in like the 40s or 50s minorities were abused by white racist gangs and the police and even the US navy https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zoot_Suit_Riots

after the black panthers were taken out (i think around the 80s)the minority  communities felt unprotected so they formed their own gangs such as the crips in order to protect themselves and because the police didnt care for them (slow response times/police brutality). they felt the need to recruit other neighborhoods but some of the other neighborhoods didnt just want to bow down before them as if they're the tough guys in the neighborhood so a few neighborhoods fought back against them and formed their own crew the bloods. 

the fighting between them became even more intensified with the introduction of crack and other d--gs into the poor communities and with that turf wars started and has been going on ever since. the kids today dont even know why they are supposed to hate the bloods in the first place but when you're friend, cousin or brother before you was killed by a blood or crip it doesnt really matter why it started. all you see is the people in that other neighborhood are killing those in my neighborhood and thats enough to want the protection from the gang in your neighborhood. its like a never ending cycle and the way you create peace between them is asking others who have lost family to another gang to just let it go and not retaliate which isnt all that easy to do. its like saying" hey see that guy over there? he killed your brother, now go shake his hand and make peace(its not an easy thing to do).

 

also a lot of these kids grow up in broken homes with no father and a poor mother/guardian. when you have a rough dysfunctional family at home and the d--g dealing gang bangers take care of you by feeding and giving you new cloths the gang becomes the family that you do not have at home. they become the father figures to you that you never had at home so they have a very powerful influence on you.

you see on TV all the expensive toys that a poor kid could never afford but then look around and see d--g dealers/gang bangers with nice cars or expensive jewelry, its going to attract you.

 

i dont agree with it and stayed out of gang i cans. what they do isnt right but i can see how some kids can easily get caught in that trap. its a horrible situation and once you're sucked into that lifestyle at an early age it is so hard to break free from it especially when one of the rules of the gangs are if you try to leave the gang you must be killed.

ok thats all i wanted to say  

I understand that. I live in a place where gangs are something to be afraid of and at the same time no. Sometimes we hear shootings near where we live and right next to my house a bit more than a year ago they used to reunite to sell d--gs. All you could see was expensive cars and people wouldn't be there more than a minute. The police used to do rounds every night but suspiciously the days those guys where there they wouldn't show up until everyone in the neighborhood sent a complaint to the mayor and the police station. Now they do it somewhere else. Sometimes people wake up in the middle of the night because they heard something and when they go out to see all they find is a random car in flames. No one knows who's car is it, it was just there after a shooting, that's all we get to know (it has happened a few times already). I was almost robbed two times before when I went out for a jog, I just happen to run very fast. I'm so glad nothing has happened to me or my family.

I know the seriousness of these things I just can't understand why is there a need to kill, d--g traffic, taking what's not yours and all the other awful things that happens around these gangs. Not to mention that also teenage girls kidnappings are the order of the day here, they appear a couple of days later, d--gged and with clear signs that they were prostituted (is that the right word?). All they remember is being kidnapped by a group of people who forced them to do "things".
For me this is just something that has to stop immediately.

 

Of course I'm kidding when I say I will laught at them, is just that all I can think of when I hear something related to gangs is "West Side Story". 

At the end my point is: why gangs tho when you can join GagaDaily?  Or another random fandom. Just don't do gangs... Do Gagz. 

 

[RebeldeFaith 5,745]

be careful, bud. Believe it or not, I used to know friends who were part of gangs when lived in New Mexico and even here in Dallas, TX, (don't think I'm affiliated just because I knew people since you can't just ignore them when you're in certain areas and not all of them are 100% bad, most are kids.) That culture is all based on certain codes and respect and if a gang member ever tells you they are part of a gang, it's not a good idea to laugh or disrespect in those situations.

It is usually a test to see if they can trust you and if you show any hint that they can't trust you, they'll lash out at you even when you don't expect it or feel safe in a public place. Don't underestimate their numbers, connections, or resources, especially if they're associated with a d--g cartel from south of the border.

Read above.

Thanks!!! :)

[LoveandMagic 1,731]

What I don't understand is why cops are so gunshot about being brutal or shooting innocent or unarmed civilians numerous times across the nation and yet when you have known dangerous gangs in your city who have no regard to take human life roaming around like an urban jungle?  

Why don't cops use all those resources they got from the government and round up gang members based on where or who they affiliate themselves with? It's ridiculous of the scale of threat these gangs pose. They are going to turn LA into the next Mexico City or Juarez with this increased senseless violence. 

Actually not all are that "gunshot" or brutal. Believe it or not, a lot of cops are good people, but there definitely are areas of corruption. A lot of that blame can be placed on the higher ups who care more about politics and nepotism than getting the right people for the right job (these higher ups almost never pay the price for bad judgement or hiding information, etc). It takes a certain type of character to be a (good) police officer, there are too many bad ones that have "buddies" at higher ranks that get them a job. LAPD is supposed to have some serious corruption problems, but the academy itself is one of the most brutal to go through. But just because you pass the academy doesn't mean you have what it takes to make it in the real world. You have to be level headed, quick thinking, and brave. It's like the army. Not many people are the right fit. Lots of people get weeded out (or are supposed to) during field training (with they participate in ride-a-longs with superiors). Unfortunately too many don't get weeded out because their wives go jogging with the mayor's wife, or they are the brother of some leutenant, etc. So then you wind up with mass corruption, and the many good cops get lumped with the bad ones. There also isn't much the good ones can do about it either, even if they keep reporting the bad behavior, they wind up being demoted, lose their job, or just plain ignored.

As for your second question, the problem is that law enforcement know who the gang members are (they don't hide it) but just locking them up isn't an option, unless they must prove these gang bangers have committed a crime or are planning to. I forget what the term is, but just grabbing someone off the streets and arresting them because they are wearing colors or are friends with a gang banger is against their rights. A lot of gang bangers do wind up get arrested for having illigal weapons, warrants, robberies, etc. But they don't rat on each other and will spend most of their life in and out of the system (and for every one in jail, there's ten more ready to jump in to fill their role). The problem is the faulty legal system and overcrowding in jails and prisons, which result in lighter sentencing. Then you have people in the communities that will hide the gang bangers from the police as well. It keeps these violent assholes on the streets. Of course it doesn't help that the community, through history, can't trust the police. It's a vicious little cycle.

[Goosey 3,017]

Seems fake. Someone probably took note of the recent shootings and came up with this idea to troll Twitter. They aren't going to be having a competition to kill 100 people. 

[BlondeQueenOfGGD 25,454]

It is!!!!!!!!!!! Everywhere you go:

1) It smells like pee and ****

2) There is crime

3) Overpopulated

4) EXPENSIVE cost of living

5) Horrible weather 

 

As a californian I can confirm you're right

[Shadow 6,697]

I did not mean to alienate all cops, but just the ones recorded doing brutal things across the nation. Don't get me wrong, I have the utmost respect for those who go into law enforcement and those who join the military as I have many friends in those lines of work and interact with even more since my brother in law (a trained black belt in ninjutsu) on a weekly basis trains cops, U.S. Marshals, state troopers, and even federal agents in protecting themselves that way since we know full well how many law enforcement officials are threatened daily.

However, I do make the distinction that an officer is a position of authority and power and with power comes responsibility.  Though we only get bits and segments of a bigger story around events that occur, so we can't judge outright without evidence from court cases to shed more light of what happens in each situation. However, I have been disturbed by the tactics of some authorities of recent times and what appears to be the militarization of police, funded by the DOD. I also don't understand why cops who have access to nonlethal weapons like bean bags, stun guns, pepper spray or batons n' handcuffs opt to pull out their lethal gun on recognized unarmed suspects and even then could shoot to wound (like in the leg) instead of kill (shots to the chest or head). Some tactics need explaining or need improvement to avoid tragic events and bad press for police. 

As for the second issue I raised, I understand our jails and prisons are too full to accommodate offenders of no major crimes and an operation like that would be too big for any city. However, what is the answer here and how can this issue be tackled to protect people not connected to gangs? It's just frustrating seeing two trends of the appearance of more hostile law enforcement on one hand and the appearance of a number of cities getting more dangerous with violent crimes seeming to rise recently.

Actually not all are that "gunshot" or brutal. Believe it or not, a lot of cops are good people, but there definitely are areas of corruption. A lot of that blame can be placed on the higher ups who care more about politics and nepotism than getting the right people for the right job (these higher ups almost never pay the price for bad judgement or hiding information, etc). It takes a certain type of character to be a (good) police officer, there are too many bad ones that have "buddies" at higher ranks that get them a job. LAPD is supposed to have some serious corruption problems, but the academy itself is one of the most brutal to go through. But just because you pass the academy doesn't mean you have what it takes to make it in the real world. You have to be level headed, quick thinking, and brave. It's like the army. Not many people are the right fit. Lots of people get weeded out (or are supposed to) during field training (with they participate in ride-a-longs with superiors). Unfortunately too many don't get weeded out because their wives go jogging with the mayor's wife, or they are the brother of some leutenant, etc. So then you wind up with mass corruption, and the many good cops get lumped with the bad ones. There also isn't much the good ones can do about it either, even if they keep reporting the bad behavior, they wind up being demoted, lose their job, or just plain ignored.

As for your second question, the problem is that law enforcement know who the gang members are (they don't hide it) but just locking them up isn't an option, unless they must prove these gang bangers have committed a crime or are planning to. I forget what the term is, but just grabbing someone off the streets and arresting them because they are wearing colors or are friends with a gang banger is against their rights. A lot of gang bangers do wind up get arrested for having illigal weapons, warrants, robberies, etc. But they don't rat on each other and will spend most of their life in and out of the system (and for every one in jail, there's ten more ready to jump in to fill their role). The problem is the faulty legal system and overcrowding in jails and prisons, which result in lighter sentencing. Then you have people in the communities that will hide the gang bangers from the police as well. It keeps these violent assholes on the streets. Of course it doesn't help that the community, through history, can't trust the police. It's a vicious little cycle.

[LoveandMagic 1,731]

I did not mean to alienate all cops, but just the ones recorded doing brutal things across the nation. Don't get me wrong, I have the utmost respect for those who go into law enforcement and those who join the military as I have many friends in those lines of work and interact with even more since my brother in law (a trained black belt in ninjutsu) on a weekly basis trains cops, U.S. Marshals, state troopers, and even federal agents in protecting themselves that way since we know full well how many law enforcement officials are threatened daily.

However, I do make the distinction that an officer is a position of authority and power and with power comes responsibility.  Though we only get bits and segments of a bigger story around events that occur, so we can't judge outright without evidence from court cases to shed more light of what happens in each situation. However, I have been disturbed by the tactics of some authorities of recent times and what appears to be the militarization of police, funded by the DOD. I also don't understand why cops who have access to nonlethal weapons like bean bags, stun guns, pepper spray or batons n' handcuffs opt to pull out their lethal gun on recognized unarmed suspects and even then could shoot to wound (like in the leg) instead of kill (shots to the chest or head). Some tactics need explaining or need improvement to avoid tragic events and bad press for police. 

As for the second issue I raised, I understand our jails and prisons are too full to accommodate offenders of no major crimes and an operation like that would be too big for any city. However, what is the answer here and how can this issue be tackled to protect people not connected to gangs? It's just frustrating seeing two trends of the appearance of more hostile law enforcement on one hand and the appearance of a number of cities getting more dangerous with violent crimes seeming to rise recently.

 

Those are good questions. My father is in law enforcement and they have had many meetings in the past trying to understand the problems at hand and working toward a solution.

Unfortunately, in any position in power, the higher authorities are concerned more with their political careers, so I don't know how serious some are to quell these problems we are currently facing in the nation. Likely they are merely playing political lip service. A lot of the problems come from higher ups and mis-management, in which case bad protocol and/or the wrong people are giving positions in authority (from the very bottom of the ladder to the very top), both cases which disrupts the ENTIRE department.  I can give you some examples. Right now, my father qualifies for a higher position, which based on his record and the respect of his peers, he may get it. However, there were five openings involved with three already filled because of nepotism. In a department that has a fairly good reputation, right there one can already see a chink there. But it gets worse. Before my father got his current position, he used to be an investigator for violent crimes. One MAJOR case he was assisting in was almost completely blown because some higher up wanted to show off for the media. It was so bad that four vicious murderers almost wound up back on the streets, and their crimes were so incredibly heinous that it's likely vigilantism would have resulted. And this particular individual who almost botched the case is STILL in his position (and with no remorse). God knows what other problems he has/will cause. Just think though that every time a bad cop is exposed, some one higher up likely knew of the problem and did nothing, because rarely they will have to answer for it. And the bigger the city, the more it becomes about politics and postering for the media so the mayor (or whomever) can look good. It boils down to that the higher ups don't care how something is handled, just that they look good.

When it comes to non-lethal force, I agree that unless a suspect appears to have a weapon in his position, there is no need for the gun. Tasers and pepper spray work wonders (unless the suspect is cracked out on some heavy stuff, in which case sometimes even a whole bottle of pepper spray does nothing). More training in those areas, to recognize the different types of threats and be able to act quickly and responsibly, would help I think. Unfortunately, there are far too many cases where a rookie gets scared or heated and can't think rationally, particularly when they are overwhelmed (happens to a lot of people, which is also why not everyone is cut out for the army). That's why those types need to be weaned out in those critical few months after they graduate from the Academy, but it isn't until they are out in the field, most of the time, before it is revealed if they can handle the job. Those that can't must be re-evaluated and then let go. The Academy is brutal but it is NOT the real world.

As for overcrowding, the simple truth is that people don't want to pay for jails and prisons, and too many people are put into hard time for minor crimes, which is a burden on the tax payer and makes it harder for the inmate to adjust back into the real world and get a job when they get out. But that latter problem has to do with the laws. For example, I think I've read a couple of studies that stated that people doing the most time where for d--g offenses. I personally don't think a person in possession of pot with the obvious intent of using it for personal use should be sentence for years. I haven't done too much research on it, but it would seem to me that a hefty fine and some community service (and maybe some sessions with d--gs Anonymous or whatever it's called - which the fine can pay for) would be a more fitting punishment. Rapists tend to go in for much less and the damage they do is enormous. I would rather that's what our tax money went to, getting rid of such violent sociopaths. But regardless what the sentence is, for many people it boils down to this: 1) they don't want their hard earned money paying for tv, gym equipment, or books for criminals, and 2) not in their backyard.

Sorry if it seems like I'm rambling, I've been sick and am feeling light-headed. :)