Fiona Apple 13,006 Posted July 29, 2015 Share Posted July 29, 2015 there's no such thing as too much praise, after all gaga was the most overrated artist in 2009 & 10 practically fans seem to forget that, but i will say most of her praise from the GP is down to her PR image.She was never overrated.. Gaga is a true musician and artist.She has the control of her career,her music,her performances. Couldn't say the same about Bey Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gohan 16,548 Posted July 29, 2015 Share Posted July 29, 2015 The difference is that Rihanna and Britney aren't presented as some genius all-worthy goddesses. The only ones that present her with such title are her fans. I've never heard that she proclaimed herself to be the best one in the world. Then again, Britney was presented as Princess Of Pop and she's still called that way (even by her team) tryna go ask Alice, tryna catch that rabbit Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gagzus 16,302 Posted July 29, 2015 Share Posted July 29, 2015 She was never overrated.. Gaga is a true musician and artist.She has the control of her career,her music,her performances. Couldn't say the same about Beyutter delusion considering everyone was calling her the new queen of pop & madonna's successor in 2009 & 10 after her acclaim & exposure shot up- that alone is overrated and it has happened to many artists before and after gaga at their peaks of success & yes they're both artists in their own right; Gaga's is in her musicianship such as songwriting, fashion & concepts where as beyonce's is in her dance & vocal ability and (since she basically became her own manager) her business head. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fiona Apple 13,006 Posted July 29, 2015 Share Posted July 29, 2015 utter delusion considering everyone was calling her the new queen of pop & madonna's successor in 2009 & 10 after her acclaim & exposure shot up- that alone is overrated and it has happened to many artists before and after gaga at their peaks of success & yes they're both artists in their own right; Gaga's is in her musicianship such as songwriting, fashion & concepts where as beyonce's is in her dance & vocal ability and (since she basically became her own manager) her business head. It's funny because the positives you mentioned for Beyonce should be totally included in Gaga too. Gaga isn't only a musician,a fashion icon and a creative mind she is also an AMAZING vocalist and a good dancer..Beyonce is not a great dancer either anyway..Her only complicated choreography is single ladies..The others are pretty much the same thing over and over again Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray of Light 8,134 Posted July 29, 2015 Share Posted July 29, 2015 Seriously doubt that Jay Z's wife knows the 26 letters of the alphabet, MUCH LESS has written over 200 songs. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JEWRJEWR 5,663 Posted July 29, 2015 Share Posted July 29, 2015 Seriously doubt that Jay Z's wife knows the 26 letters of the alphabet, MUCH LESS has written over 200 songs. I couldnt find any lies Fear, she's the mother of violence Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Didymus 34,380 Posted July 29, 2015 Share Posted July 29, 2015 She has full creative control over her artistic output, that counts more to me than whether or not she writes her melodies and lyrics. There's a place for that in pop music and artists like Gaga are an exception to the rule. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gagzus 16,302 Posted July 29, 2015 Share Posted July 29, 2015 It's funny because the positives you mentioned for Beyonce should be totally included in Gaga too. Gaga isn't only a musician,a fashion icon and a creative mind she is also an AMAZING vocalist and a good dancer..Beyonce is not a great dancer either anyway..Her only complicated choreography is single ladies..The others are pretty much the same thing over and over again gaga's business head is tragic, she couldn't dance as well as everyone thinks before her injury and after she's even stiffer now almost as much as britney, Gaga's vocals are good but not consistent unlike Beyonce's who's remain the same on record and off unlike gaga (see judas live vs studio and every song on ARTPOP live except dope & gypsy). I love Gaga but she ain't perfect or flawless & i dislike beyonce almost as much as i dislike kety & necki but she's still talented. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yanko 9,860 Posted July 29, 2015 Share Posted July 29, 2015 so many pressed souls Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fiona Apple 13,006 Posted July 29, 2015 Share Posted July 29, 2015 gaga's business head is tragic, she couldn't dance as well as everyone thinks before her injury and after she's even stiffer now almost as much as britney, Gaga's vocals are good but not consistent unlike Beyonce's who's remain the same on record and off unlike gaga (see judas live vs studio and every song on ARTPOP live except dope & gypsy). I love Gaga but she ain't perfect or flawless & i dislike beyonce almost as much as i dislike kety & necki but she's still talented.LOOOOOOOOOOOOL. The fact that Gaga's music sounds different live doesn't make her a worse vocalist?! Imo her voice is A LOT better than Beyonce's..Obviously Gaga is not perfect or flawless.But she is the only popstar (with Pink and some others) that REALLY do have the whole package. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gagzus 16,302 Posted July 29, 2015 Share Posted July 29, 2015 LOOOOOOOOOOOOL. The fact that Gaga's music sounds different live doesn't make her a worse vocalist?! Imo her voice is A LOT better than Beyonce's..Obviously Gaga is not perfect or flawless.But she is the only popstar (with Pink and some others) that REALLY do have the whole package.You can think that all you want but when it comes to actual vocal ability subjective isn't a thing because scales & keys exist and beyonce can go higher and control her vibrato much better than gagz & if she had the whole package she would be classified as generically pretty like many of her peers as well and she would have as much praise as beyonce etc get but she doesn't because she doesn't have the "whole package". But that's what I like about her tbh, she's not perfect and isn't controlled by her PR unlike Kety Necki and Bey Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fiona Apple 13,006 Posted July 29, 2015 Share Posted July 29, 2015 You can think that all you want but when it comes to actual vocal ability subjective isn't a thing because scales & keys exist and beyonce can go higher and control her vibrato much better than gagz & if she had the whole package she would be classified as generically pretty like many of her peers as well and she would have as much praise as beyonce etc get but she doesn't because she doesn't have the "whole package". But that's what I like about her tbh, she's not perfect and isn't controlled by her PR unlike Kety Necki and BeyJust cringeworthy.Gaga is a very beautiful woman but people think she is ugly because of her weird outfits.. Do you really think that Beyonce gets the praise because "she has the full package"? Bye felicia Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gagzus 16,302 Posted July 29, 2015 Share Posted July 29, 2015 Just cringeworthy.Gaga is a very beautiful woman but people think she is ugly because of her weird outfits.. Do you really think that Beyonce gets the praise because "she has the full package"? Bye feliciano because like i said she gets praise the same reason katy & nicki are liked via good PR and by keeping a clean image like Taylor is trying but failing to do. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hecturr 1,935 Posted July 29, 2015 Share Posted July 29, 2015 Multifaceted queen THE LONGSET GIF EVER LOOOL. halfway through I was like is this going in forever Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyaKara 2,282 Posted July 29, 2015 Share Posted July 29, 2015 Everyone, this thread is for discussing Beyonce's accomplishment as defined by ASCAP. You can critique her without being disrespectful. Thank you! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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