Katy Perry New Album Late 2016

[gagzus 15,665]

The whole thing with Kesha and Dr. Luke was revealed and broke out after PRISM & it's first three singles were released. I highly doubt that Katy will go back to working with Dr. Luke. I think the main reason she never released Legendary Lovers as a single was because it was produced by Dr. Luke. 

well i can tell you now she will most definitely have Luke on her next album else half her selling power is gone. and if he isn't she's reached her peak now so the only way to go is down sadly for her, so she will most definitely not have as much overrated attention as this era got (the attention it got was deserved by OOTB because it's actually good and doesn't sound like a Garnier advert soundtrack)

[Whispering 18,865]

Professional songwriter does not necessarily equal writing the lyrics. Songwriting mostly is arranging and composing the songs musically. Know your facts before trying to pick up a conversation and sound smart.

Songwriting includes lyrics. All you have to do is look at who else these people wrote songs for...Beyonce, Britney, Jordin Sparks, Rihanna...people that may contribute to the lyrics, but by no means write all the lyrics to their songs. There are the facts right there. These Grammy award winning songwriters were not paid and brought in to lay down some drum tracks, tempo and beats. They write songs for artists!

[My Little Phoney 658]

Why does she always takes these big 3 year breaks 

like sis, This Is How We Do was never going to keep you on the radio til 2016

because she doesn't write on tour and takes long vacations between touring and writing/recording I think

[Whispering 18,865]

Please...Katy is going to use Dr. Luke on her next album. She calls "all the shots", so it won't be her label making her use Dr. Luke, it will be her choice. 

[Psychedelic 1,098]

No, I know that Katy had songwriting help on her hit songs, because there are professional songwriters credited on all of those songs.

Next time you want to make some off topic comment about me, quote me and we will discuss whatever your issue is, or I'll report you.

Lots of artists use professional songwriters, even MJ did and he was himself a magnificent songwriter. Yes, The thing with Katy is that the songs that use more help are the ones who end up being singles but that's much more of a mangement thing (which is kind of sad) than a lack artistry as you make it out to be.

If I didn't directly quote you is because I believe I have disscussed this with you before, and you refute with the same long "facts" just to prove yourself your intelect is above, that's tiring to me. I'm not here to prove that I am or my fave is better than anyone. Each their own, black point.

[Spock 20,290]

correction: "I don't think she has started yet" was what Bonnie said. It's not like she knows for sure. 

Regardless, my point still stands 

[Whispering 18,865]

Lots of artists use professional songwriters, even MJ did and he was himself a magnificent songwriter. Yes, The thing with Katy is that the songs that use more help are the ones who end up being singles but that's much more of a mangement thing (which is kind of sad) than a lack artistry as you make it out to be.

If I didn't directly quote you is because I believe I have disscussed this with you before, and you refute with the same long "facts" just to prove yourself your intelectual is above, that's tiring to me. I'm not here to prove that I am or my fave is better than anyone. Each their own, black point.

I agree, lots of artists do use professional songwriters to help them, and Katy is one of those artists who do that. Evidently, Katy has "one hundred per cent control of everything having to do with her career. She makes every decision and is in the driver's seat at all times, since the beginning of her career". Therefore, she picks her singles. I never said Katy doesn't write on her songs and hasn't written more on some songs that were album tracks. I have stated that Katy brings in professional songwriters to help her write her hit songs.

Facts were asked for, so I provided them. If it is tiring for you, ignore it. Otherwise, discussing another member in some side post is off topic and next time I will report you for it. 

[LoveandMagic 1,731]

It seems everyone wants to release on Q4. I think StrawberryBlonde was right in pointing out that's time when most artists (and labels) think that the public will have the most coin to spend. If she goes toe-to-toe with Taylor though, it will be interesting to see if one gets overshadowed by the other (though certainly the media will play favorites again). 

I wasn't a big fan of Prism, so I'm kind of hoping she goes Acoustic or dark(er) on her next album. I doubt this will happen though since fun pop is working really well for her. Nothing wrong with that, of course, but I was kind of intrigued by her original pre-Prism concept. 

[Creyk 17,729]

It seems everyone wants to release on Q4. I think StrawberryBlonde was right in pointing out that's time when most artists (and labels) think that the public will have the most coin to spend. If she goes toe-to-toe with Taylor though, it will be interesting to see if one gets overshadowed by the other (though certainly the media will play favorites again). 

I wasn't a big fan of Prism, so I'm kind of hoping she goes Acoustic or dark(er) on her next album. I doubt this will happen though since fun pop is working really well for her. Nothing wrong with that, of course, but I was kind of intrigued by her original pre-Prism concept. 

I think Katy would assasinate Taylor and defeat her too. Or Taylor would sell more albums (obviously) but Katy would dominate her in radio airplay and single sales. One thing is for sure, if those 2 release at the same time watching the fanbase war will be glorious  

[Kacey Elizabeth 900]

Songwriting includes lyrics. All you have to do is look at who else these people wrote songs for...Beyonce, Britney, Jordin Sparks, Rihanna...people that may contribute to the lyrics, but by no means write all the lyrics to their songs. There are the facts right there. These Grammy award winning songwriters were not paid and brought in to lay down some drum tracks, tempo and beats. They write songs for artists!

This is what songwriting is. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Songwriter there isn't a mention of writing the lyrics. Lyricism is different. 

[Kacey Elizabeth 900]

Regardless, my point still stands 

So what you're saying is that there are organizations or people who call someone like Bonnie to come and write with Katy? If that's the case, then it's true. Bonnie said that her manager first introduced her to Dr. Luke in 2009, and then Dr. Luke introduced Katy and Bonnie to each other the same year (although they both knew each other pre-2009). But at the end of the day, Katy herself decides whether she'll collaborate with another lyricist on a song or not.

[Spock 20,290]

So what you're saying is that there are organizations or people who call someone like Bonnie to come and write with Katy? 

I'm saying that the likes of Bonnie and Bonnie herself are obviously informed of when Katy is writing or not, so what Whispering said about finding time and tell them to come in may not be so far from the truth after all

[Whispering 18,865]

This is what songwriting is. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Songwriter there isn't a mention of writing the lyrics. Lyricism is different. 

"Professional songwriters can either be employed to write either the lyrics or the music directly for or alongside a performing artist..." 

Gaga just received an award for being a songwriter. Gaga writes the lyrics to her songs. She was recognized for her songwriting by being inducted into the Songwriter's Hall of Fame. 

[Kacey Elizabeth 900]

"Professional songwriters can either be employed to write either the lyrics or the music directly for or alongside a performing artist..." 

Gaga just received an award for being a songwriter. Gaga writes the lyrics to her songs. She was recognized for her songwriting by being inducted into the Songwriter's Hall of Fame. 

oh, sorry, my miss in that part.  But regardless, my point still remains. Songwriting elements are the melody, structure, tempo, keys, beats, chord progression, dynamics, harmony, structure, arrangement, guitar strums, keyboard/synth, and bass lines. It's not just the lyrics. Producers (specially in the world of pop music) get songwriting credits for composing the elements that I named above. And 98% of the people you named are credited as producers on Katy's songs. Someone had to compose those elements, and i don't think Katy was the one who done it. Most of the ones you named were not there to write or contribute to the lyrics. 

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oh, sorry, my miss in that part.  But regardless, my point still remains. Songwriting elements are the melody, structure, tempo, keys, beats, chord progression, dynamics, harmony, structure, arrangement, guitar strums, keyboard/synth, and bass lines. It's not just the lyrics. Producers (specially in the world of pop music) get songwriting credits for composing the elements that I named above. And 98% of the people you named are credited as producers on Katy's songs. Someone had to compose those elements, and i don't Katy was the one who done it. Most of the ones you named were not there to write or contribute to the lyrics. 

I agree with you, songwriting includes melody line creations (which Beyoncé is known for, that's why she is always credited as a songwriter) as well as other elements. It's common knowledge, I don't get why people are not understanding this after you explaining it and linking songwriting wiki's  You're 100% right.

 

(unless I'm picking this whole debate up wrong lol)