Katy Perry aims to release next album in 2016

[Kacey Elizabeth 900]

Face it, Katy's peaked. She's not as popular with the GP as she was 2-3 years ago. People have grown tired of her and her lack of talent is being more apparent with the GP. Especially now that media is trying to pit her against Taylor Swift, Taylor is dominating the GP. Katy doesn't stand a chance

Oh really? As I mentioned In my other comment earlier in this thread, Katy was nowhere as popular or had a stardom as big as she does now back in 2-3 years ago. She hasn't even released a single in 8 months. She has founded her own record label company and performed at the SuperBowl Halftime (which she made history with). Tell your thing to the social media power that she has now (which she didn't had in 2-3 years ago). Katy can just dye her hair and the whole mainstream media will go crazy for her. The GP doesn't loves Taylor that much either. Actually, a lot of the GP have said that they are tired of hearing about her everywhere. It's just that Taylor has established such a huge and devoted fanbase. Saying that Katy lacks talent just shows how little you know about her.

[Alcina Dimitrescu 1,156]

This thread has gotten silly Going by the current logic Gaga is superdead then

[Kacey Elizabeth 900]

​yeah idc i just corrected him,but are u serious with this mainstream sound thing? In what world is Judas for example more mainstream than Roar,Birthday,DH,Uncle and TIHWD?

Judas is more mainstream sounding than Unconditionally, though. 

[Riot Poof 2,236]

So many tl;dr moments in this thread... 

[StrawberryBlond 14,672]

@StrawberryBlond You can keep on making excuses that why The Prismatic World Tour was and is 10 times more successful than California Dreams Tour was (by saying that not a lot of countries got to see her at her last tour, LMAO), but that doesn't changes the fact that Katy's global stardom/popularity has increased a lot since her last era, so she'll obviously will have a greater demand in countries that she went to before and the countries that she didn't. Katy didn't even performed Part Of Me or Wide Awake at her last California Dreams Tour shows in Asia, as they weren't released at that time. Stop pretending like you know the future and know how well Katy will do in her next era commercially, cause you really don't. You need to do your research. PRISM went #1 on bunch of charts from non-English speaking countries. PRISM also peaked at #1 on 72 iTunes Charts worldwide. Where's your proof that Katy was going to release PRISM in early 2014 btw? Yeah, right. NONE. I never saw or heard any Capitol insider say that Katy was going to release new material in early 2014. It's not Katy's fault that Applause got leaked, and Katy won that battle anyway. You say that Unconditionally flopped harder than Judas, yet Unconditionally is certified Platinum by RIAA, has sold over 1 million copies in the US, and has more views on YouTube/VEVO than Judas which is certified Gold by RIAA and hasn't even hit the 1 million sales mark in the US yet (both have sold around the same WW though). The Born This Way Ball Tour wasn't even in top 5 of 2012's top tours, whereas The Prismatic World Tour was the 4th best-selling/highest grossing tour WW overall in 2014 and was the best-selling/highest grossing female tour WW in 2014. The main reason that Born This Way sold 1.1 million copies in it's debut week was mostly due to the multiple discounts that it had, whereas PRISM barely had any discounts. You are comparing the total sales (6.3 million) of a album such as Born This Way which has been out for 4 years and 8 months to the total sales (3.5 million) of a album such as PRISM which has been out for 1 year and 8 months, which is kind of unfair. And last but not least, The PWT and The BWTB Tour are tied for the countries visited and the type of venues. There are rumors that The Prismatic World Tour's last leg will be South Africa.

​Um, did you see how many countries she went to in Europe with her last tour? The UK and Ireland were the only ones that got a good deal and got decent sized arenas. Her continental European leg was teeny and went to the smallest of venues. Not only that, the tour started there, so anyone who didn't get into TD until the very end of the album didn't get a chance to see her live if they were in continental Europe. She barely toured Asia either and all South America got were festival dates were she wasn't the headliner plus 3 arenas in Mexico. She didn't tour Australia like she did now either. So, it's no surprise that demand for her in these regions is massive now. Why do you think Gaga's BTWB was so successful in Asia? Partly because she only did 4 arena dates there with the MB and they were all in Japan. Naturally, her Asian fans and anyone who had recently discovered her never got a chance. Same as regards her Latin American and African dates. Don't go to certain countries or only go to small venues with limited dates and your demand will be higher next time. It stands to reason. But if you do tour the entire world in large venues, it does mean your next tour won't be as impressive, regardless of how successful your next album is. That's just how things work. Katy's next tour will not be have these showstopping numbers, fact.

Ok, I admit I made a mistake - her last two TD dates were in January 2012 and I thought POM and WA had been released by then. Sorry about that. But actually, it only makes my point stronger. This means she had never performed her 2 mega-hit singles from her re-release anywhere on tour...meaning that her next tour was going to have even more hits headlining it, not just the ones from her new album. She gained more fans still with that re-release, so of course they probably went to the Prismatic tour just to see her sing songs from TD, as they do feature strongly.

No, Prism didn't go to #1 in any non-English speaking country. Look it up on Wikipedia. Ok, maybe there was a far-flung country that wasn't mentioned but not all small, foreign countries even have album charts as there's so little music sold that there's not much point. Her debut didn't go to #1 anywhere and the only non-English speaking country TD went to #1 in was Austria. Katy simply doesn't have the devotion from foreigners. And iTunes charts don't mean anything - all that matters is the official chart standings at the end of the week. You can be #1 on iTunes but not #1 on your official charts and iTunes doesn't take into account sales from other download sites or physical sales. You've got some nerve telling me I have to do my research. I'm famed for this ability.

I definitely saw this info from the insider at the time but I can't seem to find the article it was mentioned in. Regardless, that's what the evidence was pointing to. She was on a break, she said her album was only half done and weeks after Gaga's announcement, she makes one too. This was before Beyonce started the trend for sudden releases.

It's easy to sell a million copies of a single in the US, it's nothing special. It doesn't mean you have a major hit. Judas will be remembered to some degree whereas Unconditionally was so bland and unremarkable that it'll be forgotten by all but her fans. Everyone says how forgettable Unconditionally is. The only thing people remember it for is her cultural appropriation angle and her terrible performance of it on X Factor UK which made a whole bunch of people regret buying concert tickets (I saw the comments from disgruntled buyers, I'm not making this up).

2012 was a great year for tours in general. We had Madonna's, Coldplay, Bruce Springsteen and a ton of other massively successful tours. Gaga ranked #6 which was amazing as the top 6 were the ones to crack the $100 million mark. Remember that her tour had started in 2012 and only her final leg was in 2013. This was just her last few earnings. You're just trying to make her look bad to defend Katy. It all depends when your tour falls in the year. All that matters is what you earn overall. Also, 2012 was just a good year for tour sales. But now, the music market is in the pits and concerts are hard to sell out which is why everyone's going back to arenas. Competition was high back then but it isn't as high now. BTWB would have been even higher if it were done today. And ok, I'll admit I was wrong if Katy does go to SA with this tour but it's going to be very late in the day to sell tickets and I doubt the tour will be dragged on much longer than October.

I really am stunned that you're prepared to say Gaga cheated her sales just to defend Katy. You know that offer was purely Amazon's decision and nothing to do with her? And a lot of fans said they would have bought it full price but they just couldn't turn down the amazing offer? Plus, it was only available on Amazon US. It sold a million outside the US on its first day alone, so that tells you something.

Really, why are you on a Gaga fansite if all you do is defend Katy and never defend Gaga? It's clear you prefer Katy more, so why are you here?

 

[Kacey Elizabeth 900]

​Um, did you see how many countries she went to in Europe with her last tour? The UK and Ireland were the only ones that got a good deal and got decent sized arenas. Her continental European leg was teeny and went to the smallest of venues. Not only that, the tour started there, so anyone who didn't get into TD until the very end of the album didn't get a chance to see her live if they were in continental Europe. She barely toured Asia either and all South America got were festival dates were she wasn't the headliner plus 3 arenas in Mexico. She didn't tour Australia like she did now either. So, it's no surprise that demand for her in these regions is massive now. Why do you think Gaga's BTWB was so successful in Asia? Partly because she only did 4 arena dates there with the MB and they were all in Japan. Naturally, her Asian fans and anyone who had recently discovered her never got a chance. Same as regards her Latin American and African dates. Don't go to certain countries or only go to small venues with limited dates and your demand will be higher next time. It stands to reason. But if you do tour the entire world in large venues, it does mean your next tour won't be as impressive, regardless of how successful your next album is. That's just how things work. Katy's next tour will not be have these showstopping numbers, fact.

Ok, I admit I made a mistake - her last two TD dates were in January 2012 and I thought POM and WA had been released by then. Sorry about that. But actually, it only makes my point stronger. This means she had never performed her 2 mega-hit singles from her re-release anywhere on tour...meaning that her next tour was going to have even more hits headlining it, not just the ones from her new album. She gained more fans still with that re-release, so of course they probably went to the Prismatic tour just to see her sing songs from TD, as they do feature strongly.

No, Prism didn't go to #1 in any non-English speaking country. Look it up on Wikipedia. Ok, maybe there was a far-flung country that wasn't mentioned but not all small, foreign countries even have album charts as there's so little music sold that there's not much point. Her debut didn't go to #1 anywhere and the only non-English speaking country TD went to #1 in was Austria. Katy simply doesn't have the devotion from foreigners. And iTunes charts don't mean anything - all that matters is the official chart standings at the end of the week. You can be #1 on iTunes but not #1 on your official charts and iTunes doesn't take into account sales from other download sites or physical sales. You've got some nerve telling me I have to do my research. I'm famed for this ability.

I definitely saw this info from the insider at the time but I can't seem to find the article it was mentioned in. Regardless, that's what the evidence was pointing to. She was on a break, she said her album was only half done and weeks after Gaga's announcement, she makes one too. This was before Beyonce started the trend for sudden releases.

It's easy to sell a million copies of a single in the US, it's nothing special. It doesn't mean you have a major hit. Judas will be remembered to some degree whereas Unconditionally was so bland and unremarkable that it'll be forgotten by all but her fans. Everyone says how forgettable Unconditionally is. The only thing people remember it for is her cultural appropriation angle and her terrible performance of it on X Factor UK which made a whole bunch of people regret buying concert tickets (I saw the comments from disgruntled buyers, I'm not making this up).

2012 was a great year for tours in general. We had Madonna's, Coldplay, Bruce Springsteen and a ton of other massively successful tours. Gaga ranked #6 which was amazing as the top 6 were the ones to crack the $100 million mark. Remember that her tour had started in 2012 and only her final leg was in 2013. This was just her last few earnings. You're just trying to make her look bad to defend Katy. It all depends when your tour falls in the year. All that matters is what you earn overall. Also, 2012 was just a good year for tour sales. But now, the music market is in the pits and concerts are hard to sell out which is why everyone's going back to arenas. Competition was high back then but it isn't as high now. BTWB would have been even higher if it were done today. And ok, I'll admit I was wrong if Katy does go to SA with this tour but it's going to be very late in the day to sell tickets and I doubt the tour will be dragged on much longer than October.

I really am stunned that you're prepared to say Gaga cheated her sales just to defend Katy. You know that offer was purely Amazon's decision and nothing to do with her? And a lot of fans said they would have bought it full price but they just couldn't turn down the amazing offer? Plus, it was only available on Amazon US. It sold a million outside the US on its first day alone, so that tells you something.

Really, why are you on a Gaga fansite if all you do is defend Katy and never defend Gaga? It's clear you prefer Katy more, so why are you here?

 

Now that I think about it, you made a good point with your first paragraph.

Fans go to The Prismatic World Tour to see Katy live and to see her perform and sing her hits singles and album tracks. Even though they go to see Katy perform and sing her hits from Teenage Dream, they are also there to hear PRISM's singles and album tracks, and One Of The Boys singles too. After all, the tour is associated with PRISM and it is used to promote and support the album.

Even though PRISM didn't got #1 in any non-Enlglish speaking countries, it still charted within pretty high top 10 (and top 5) positions of official charts in foreign countries. Same goes out with Teenage Dream. I'm pretty sure that her next album will go #1 in some non-Enligsh countries, since Katy has been touring The Prismatic World Tour all over the world, and establishing herself as a global pop superstar.

I hardly doubt that Katy rushed to finish PRISM to release it before Gaga's ARTPOP. I mean, Katy started recording it in November of 2012, and finished it in July of 2013. If I'm not mistaking, Gaga also announced ARTPOP's release date in July of 2013. But PRISM has 13 songs (16 songs with deluxe). If you were to ask me, that's enough for a studio album. 

I didn't said that Unconditionally sold over 1 million copies in the US to prove it's success (although it had a moderate success). I just said it because you said that it flopped harder than Judas. As much as some people think of Uncondtionally as forgettable, a lot of people see it as a great song. As for their memorability, neither of us can tell which one of them will be remembered. Only time will tell. 

Competition of touring was high back in 2012, but it wasn't really different in 2014 either. We had Rolling Stones, Paul McCartney, Justin Timberlake, and One Direction, who toured arenas AND stadiums. A lot of artists in 2012 toured both arenas and stadiums. 

I never said that Gaga cheated her sales. I just said that Born This Way was discounted many times, which I do acknowledge was not Gaga's doing. I know that it was Amazon's idea to sell a certain amount of copies of Born This Way as 99 cents. But it wasn't just Amazon. Some stores such as Target had discounts for Born This Way in it's first week, but again, it was not Gaga's fault and I know that Born This Way was not the only album to get discounted. Even Teenage Dream was discounted back in early 2012 (I think it was around those times).

I'm a KatyCat but i love Gaga. That's the reason I'm here. And if you really think that all I do is defending Katy in this forum, you probably haven't seen all my posts.

 

 

[Optimus 298]

It all depends on the music. If Gagas music is better than Katy's and more relatable she will be on top. If Gaga writes another ARTPOP she is doomed. Again, it all depends on the music and we all know that if Gaga releases a hooky song like Poker Face for example, the world will be on Gaga's dick once again.

[Son of Venus 473]

Judas is more mainstream sounding than Unconditionally, though. 

​no

[RBNLM 1,640]

Judas is more mainstream sounding than Unconditionally, though. 

​the delusion 

[RBNLM 1,640]

It all depends on the music. If Gagas music is better than Katy's and more relatable she will be on top. 

​that's all

[Zsolti 2,688]

 

LOL, PRISM era was and is more successful than the Born This Way era. PRISM may only got two huge hits, but Roar and Dark Horse were much more successful, consistent, and bigger in charts, sales, streaming, and radios than any singles from Born This Way were. PRISM has spend 81 weeks in Billboard 200 so far (it is still charting), while Born This Way has spent only 47 weeks in the Billboard 200 chart. Dark Horse spent 4 weeks at #1 position on Billboard Hot 100, and it spent 22 consecutive weeks inside of top 10 of that chart + spent 58 total (consecutive) weeks in that chart. The song was the biggest female single of 2014 (both US & WW) and the 2nd biggest single of 2014 overall (both US & WW). It was the top streaming single of 2014 as well, by being the highest streamed single on Spotify that year. Dark Horse's MV was the most viewed video on YouTube in 2014, and it was named the best hit of 2014 by American Top 40. The single holds the record for the most weekly played song ever by a female on the radio on Mainstream Top 40's chart. It's the 2nd to Uptown Funk. It was the most played song on the radio by a female in 2014 (2nd most played song overall). It's music video is the most viewed MV EVER by a female on VEVO and YouTube. It is also the 2nd highest viewed MV overall on VEVO (3rd on YouTube) of all time. The MV is also on it's way to get 1 billion views on VEVO, making it the first video by a female to do so. Not to mention it's 6 million US sales and it being certified 9 times Platinum by RIAA. With that being said, Roar is the fastest-selling single in digital history, is the most weekly played song on the radio according to Adult Top 40's chart, spent 2 weeks at the #1 position on Billboard Hot 100, hit #1 on 68 iTunes Charts around the world, is the 3rd most weekly played song on the radio on Mainstream Top 40's chart. This makes it the 3rd to Dark Horse (her own song) and Uptown Funk. The single also has sold 12.2 million copies WW, 6 million copies in the US, and it is certified 8 times Platinum by RIAA. It had the best, biggest, and highest first week sales for a single in 2013 as well. Oh, and it also has one of the biggest single-upward movements (by going up 83 positions by going from #85 to #2 in a week) in Billboard Hot 100's history. None of Born This Way's singles come close to any of this (maybe except for Born This Way's debut at #1 and the weeks it spent at that position on Billboard Hot 100 chart and it's iTunes record). PRISM is also the only album (overall) in history to have 2 singles in top 5 of Mainstream Top 40's most weekly played songs chart and have two videos in Top 3 of VEVO's most viewed videos of all time list. PRISM is also #2 on VEVO's list of biggest female eras ever (being 2nd to her own Teenage Dream era). Born This Way is nowhere near any of this. The Prismatic World Tour has probably outgrossed The Born This Way Ball Tour (and most likely has outdid it's attendance). The PWT overall had and has more success than The BTWB Tour had.  

 Katy performed at the SuperBowl Halftime show this year, and her performance was the most watched halftime show EVER in Television's history (by having 118.5 million views, while the SuperBowl game itself had a average of only 114 million views both before and after Katy's show). Not only that, but Katy's performance was the highest ranked/rated and most talked about halftime show of all time. Don't even get me to start on Katy's social media in the PRISM era. Katy became the first person ever in history to get 50 million followers on Twitter, and she is the most followed person on Twitter by having 70 million followers. She has over 20 million followers on Instagram, over 72 million likes on Facebook, over 15 million subscribers (almost 16 million) on her VEVO channel, making her channel the 2nd most subscribed VEVO channel and 3rd most subscribed channel on YouTube, has over 6 billion views on YouTube/VEVO, making her the 3rd most viewed artist ever, and she topped the social media in 2014. Katy was nowhere near this popular or had a stardom as big as she does now back in her Teenage Dream era (she even scored Cosmopolitan's first ever global cover in 2014). Katy was crowned as top digital artist ever by RIAA and a painting of her was added to the National Portrait Gallery in 2014 and she just got celebrated at the Eye Pop: The Celebrity Gaze exhibit. Plus, in Spotify, PRISM has more streams than Teenage Dream (even though they both are in top 5 of most streamed female albums on Spotify). PRISM may didn't got Teenage Dream's single records and milestones on different charts, or it's overall single sales, but PRISM was more successful critically, and it was a way more successful era by the terms of touring, streaming, airplays, and stardom/popularity (while Gaga went downhill in critical acclaim, record sales, charts, touring, streaming, airplays, and stardom/popularity in the Born This Way era, specially when compared to The Fame Monster era). Not to mention that the Teenage Dream era had way more promo than the PRISM era got. PRISM is now selling twice as fast as Teenage Dream did in it's time. And Katy literally TOPPED NINE 2014 Year End Billboard charts, and was in top 10 of many of them as well. 

 By the way, your numbers are wrong. Here are PRISM's singles chart positions on Billboard Hot 100: #1, #34, #14, #1, #17, and #24 and here are Born This Way's singles chart positions on Billboard Hot 100: #1, #12, #10, #3, #6, and #29. What you need to understand here is that Born This Way and it's singles have more mainstream sounds and had 10 times more promo than PRISM and it's singles had. Birthday and This Is How We Do barely got any promo, unlike You & I and Marry The Night, which had heavy promotion. Same goes out with Born This Way, Hair, Judas, and The Edge Of Glory, which all had more promo than Roar, Walking On Air, Unconditionally (which is not even mainstream and commercial both lyrically and musically), and Dark Horse. 

@StrawberryBlond You can keep on making excuses that why The Prismatic World Tour was and is 10 times more successful than California Dreams Tour was (by saying that not a lot of countries got to see her at her last tour, LMAO), but that doesn't changes the fact that Katy's global stardom/popularity has increased a lot since her last era, so she'll obviously will have a greater demand in countries that she went to before and the countries that she didn't. Katy didn't even performed Part Of Me or Wide Awake at her last California Dreams Tour shows in Asia, as they weren't released at that time. Stop pretending like you know the future and know how well Katy will do in her next era commercially, cause you really don't. You need to do your research. PRISM went #1 on bunch of charts from non-English speaking countries. PRISM also peaked at #1 on 72 iTunes Charts worldwide. Where's your proof that Katy was going to release PRISM in early 2014 btw? Yeah, right. NONE. I never saw or heard any Capitol insider say that Katy was going to release new material in early 2014. It's not Katy's fault that Applause got leaked, and Katy won that battle anyway. You say that Unconditionally flopped harder than Judas, yet Unconditionally is certified Platinum by RIAA, has sold over 1 million copies in the US, and has more views on YouTube/VEVO than Judas which is certified Gold by RIAA and hasn't even hit the 1 million sales mark in the US yet (both have sold around the same WW though). The Born This Way Ball Tour wasn't even in top 5 of 2012's top tours, whereas The Prismatic World Tour was the 4th best-selling/highest grossing tour WW overall in 2014 and was the best-selling/highest grossing female tour WW in 2014. The main reason that Born This Way sold 1.1 million copies in it's debut week was mostly due to the multiple discounts that it had, whereas PRISM barely had any discounts. You are comparing the total sales (6.3 million) of a album such as Born This Way which has been out for 4 years and 8 months to the total sales (3.5 million) of a album such as PRISM which has been out for 1 year and 8 months, which is kind of unfair. And last but not least, The PWT and The BWTB Tour are tied for the countries visited and the type of venues. There are rumors that The Prismatic World Tour's last leg will be South Africa.

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[Mariano 958]

Katy said a while back that she is taking a break and she won't be releasing new music anytime soon.  Her tour stops in October..  now suddenly after Gaga's manager announced LG5 isn't coming before 2016, Katy's manager announces the same (check Billboard)

Katy's team knows damn well that Katy is set for a great start, especially after Superbowl and Gaga not so good after ARTPOP.  If Gaga doesn't release surprisingly this year (by surprisingly i mean announce something out of nowhere etc. and BEFORE 2016) I can assure y'all that Katy's team will AGAIN try to pit Katy against Gaga.....

[Sunday 2,175]

This thread :air: 

[Monzter 182]

Gaga should release her album in 2015 instead 

[Serendipity 7,821]

Gaga should release her album in 2015 instead 

​No, don't want things to be rushed

It must be spring 2016, not earlier nor late