Kacey Elizabeth 900 Posted May 25, 2015 Share Posted May 25, 2015 Even though Prism is worse than TD, it shares similarities such as songs (LL, Birthday, TIHWD, WOA, IS, DR) similarities in producers, and similarities in aesthetics, Colorful, happy, etc. But Teenage Dream did all of this better. Give me one song from Teenage Dream which sounds like Legendary Lovers, Dark Horse, Walking On Air, or International Smile. Oh right, there is none. As for Birthday, it is a disco track, and none of Teenage Dream tracks are disco. The only similarity that Birthday might share with some songs from Teenage Dream is that it is bubblegum and fun. And just because This Is How We Do is colorful, happy, fun, and etc... doesn't mean that it is that similar to Teenage Dream. Teenage Dream and PRISM might share the same producers for most of the part, but that's the closest that they get. Have you even listened to Unconditionally, Ghost, Love Me, This Moment, Double Rainbow, By The Grace Of God, Spiritual, It Takes Two, and Choose Your Battles? I guess not. Your Candy Perfume Girl Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whispering 18,865 Posted May 25, 2015 Share Posted May 25, 2015 Were these songs even popualr or commerically successful? Some may were, but no where near as big as Dark Horse. Plus, a lot of these songs are not urban or trap. They mostly are funk, R&B, pop, dance, and etc... and a few of them are hip hop. Geez, at least if you're going to argue something like this, at least try. The majority of the listed songs were Urban/Pop songs by Pop artists, played on Pop radio, just like Dark Horse was. Yes, many of these songs were number ones, for weeks, just like Dark Horse? Are you that young and musically clueless, that you really haven't heard these songs? I can go back to the early 2000s and find hits by Ciara, Destiny's Child and JT that are Pop/Urban/Rap combos. Katy did not start this trend of combining Urban or Pop songs with a Rap collab. She "rented a rapper", like all these other collabs. This is the original statement I replied to and that I bonded in my quote: During the whole 10-15 period, i rarely hear any pop/rap song. Geez, at least read the actual conversation before you spout off something else that makes zero sense! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kacey Elizabeth 900 Posted May 25, 2015 Share Posted May 25, 2015 The majority of the listed songs were Urban/Pop songs by Pop artists, played on Pop radio, just like Dark Horse was. Yes, many of these songs were number ones, for weeks, just like Dark Horse? Are you that young and musically clueless, that you really haven't heard these songs? I can go back to the early 2000s and find hits by Ciara, Destiny's Child and JT that are Pop/Urban/Rap combos. Katy did not start this trend of combining Urban or Pop songs with a Rap collab. She "rented a rapper", like all these other collabs. This is the original statement I replied to and that I bonded in my quote: During the whole 10-15 period, i rarely hear any pop/rap song. Geez, at least read the actual conversation before you spout off something else that makes zero sense! LOL, they aren't urban. They are pop, and some of them are mixed with funk, R&B, dance, and few of them are mixed with hip hop. But none of them are mixed with trap and urban genres. The only musically clueless person here is you. You actually think that those songs that you listed are trap and urban, when most of the ones that you named were either pure pop, dance-pop or pop combined with R&B, hip hop, and funk. No one here is saying that Katy started/created the trend of combining hip hop and urban/trap genres and feature a rapper, but she brought it back to mainstream and made it popular again and she also had a success with it that nobody else who done it before her had. Your Candy Perfume Girl Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whispering 18,865 Posted May 25, 2015 Share Posted May 25, 2015 LOL, they aren't urban. They are pop, and some of them are mixed with funk, R&B, dance, and few of them are mixed with hip hop. But none of them are mixed with trap and urban genres. The only musically clueless person here is you. You actually think that those songs that you listed are trap and urban, when most of the ones that you named were either pure pop, dance-pop or pop combined with R&B, hip hop, and funk. No one here is saying that Katy started/created the trend of combining hip hop and urban/trap genres and feature a rapper, but she brought it back to mainstream and made it popular again and she also had a success with it that nobody else who done it before her had. Yes, some of them are Urban, just as Urban as Katy or Dark Horse. You don't even know these songs and you certainly don't know songs from the 2000s. There were songs of this nature that were just as popular as DH, long before it was released. You obviously have a complete lack of musical knowledge. Yes, the OP was stating that there weren't Pop/Rap collab songs in 2010-2015 that were popular on the radio, and I provided him with plenty of examples. Katy did not "bring back" the Urban/Rap collab! That's hilarious that you think that! Those types of songs have been around every year for the last two decades, at the very least. She didn't start the trend and she didn't bring it back.Katy rented a rapper and followed a well established, ongoing trend. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Kacey Elizabeth 900 Posted May 25, 2015 Share Posted May 25, 2015 Yes, some of them are Urban, just as Urban as Katy or Dark Horse. You don't even know these songs and you certainly don't know songs from the 2000s. There were songs of this nature that were just as popular as DH, long before it was released. You obviously have a complete lack of musical knowledge. Yes, the OP was stating that there weren't Pop/Rap collab songs in 2010-2015 that were popular on the radio, and I provided him with plenty of examples. Katy did not "bring back" the Urban/Rap collab! That's hilarious that you think that! Those types of songs have been around every year for the last two decades, at the very least. She didn't start the trend and she didn't bring it back.Katy rented a rapper and followed a well established, ongoing trend. Yawn. Your ignorance really bores me. None of the songs that you named are urban/trap. And the irony when you say that I have a "complete lack of musical knowledge". You keep on repeating the same thing over and over again like a broken record honestly. Your claims are false, but whatever helps you to sleep at night I guess. LOL. Talking to you is like talking to a brick wall. Your Candy Perfume Girl Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whispering 18,865 Posted May 25, 2015 Share Posted May 25, 2015 Yawn. Your ignorance really bores me. None of the songs that you named are urban/trap. And the irony when you say that I have a "complete lack of musical knowledge". You keep on repeating the same thing over and over again like a broken record honestly. Your claims are false, but whatever helps you to sleep at night I guess. LOL. Talking to you is like talking to a brick wall. The OP referred to songs played on Pop radio. those are the songs I listed. Katy did not start or revive the trend. It existed every year since at least 2000. Some of the songs I listed were also number ones on Urban radio. URBAN radio stations. Therefore, your statement is incorrect and you are wrong. They were urban/pop songs that were played on Pop radio, which is exactly what DH was. How can you not understand that these songs and ones stretching back to the 2000s, with artists like JT, Alicia Keys, Ciara, Beyonce, Destiny's Child, Ciara, Usher, etc. were massive hits on Urban Radio? Do you even know what the top hits on Urban radio have been over the past five, ten or fifteen years? You can keep saying these aren't Urban songs or hits, but you are wrong. The entire Urban music world and Urban radio disagrees with you. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrawberryBlond 14,684 Posted May 25, 2015 Share Posted May 25, 2015 LOL, they aren't urban. They are pop, and some of them are mixed with funk, R&B, dance, and few of them are mixed with hip hop. But none of them are mixed with trap and urban genres. The only musically clueless person here is you. You actually think that those songs that you listed are trap and urban, when most of the ones that you named were either pure pop, dance-pop or pop combined with R&B, hip hop, and funk. No one here is saying that Katy started/created the trend of combining hip hop and urban/trap genres and feature a rapper, but she brought it back to mainstream and made it popular again and she also had a success with it that nobody else who done it before her had. I notice that you have an answer for everything. When you make a point and someone proves you wrong, you find a way to ease out of it by setting specifics. You say that Katy was the first to create a pop/urban collab. Someone proves you wrong. So you elaborate on it and say that she wasn't the first, but she was the first in a long time to do this in a long time. Someone proves you wrong. So you elaborate again and say others did it recently too, but none of them had success like she had. Now you're even claiming that instances of pop/urban collabs weren't even urban and were mixed with other genres. It's clear that you are desperately reaching for anything that can make Katy look good or revolutionary even when there's absolutely no evidence for it. If you have to keep twisting evidence to get the conclusion that you want, your conclusion can't be that credible.You say you're only 14, so it's clear that you'll be a bit unknowledgable about past music trends and past music in general. Urban music has always been popular to some degree since the 90's (you also seem a bit lost on what urban music really is too) and its always been the go-to genre that pop artists use when they want to gain coolness, an edge, some street cred. Featuring a rapper on your pop song was born and some pop artists even went full-on urban to cash in on the early-late 2000's urban craze. And when pop took over in 2008, we had urban acts doing pop collabs or even going full-on pop to get their success back. It's one of the most cliche trends in music. It's not new, it's not revolutionary and there's a few collabs like this every year.You also seem to think Katy is some mature, revolutionary artist, but again, you are only 14, so her music may seem like that to you now, but trust me, you'll look at it in a whole new light in a few years, just like I did with music I liked when I was 14. To those of us in our 20's and beyond, we know that Katy makes basic pop music for the young and lyrics like hers are penned all the time by teens. They're not mature, they're just bland, cliche lyrics that have been said many a time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
barcodemonster 3,525 Posted May 25, 2015 Share Posted May 25, 2015 Give me one song from Teenage Dream which sounds like Legendary Lovers, Dark Horse, Walking On Air, or International Smile. Oh right, there is none. As for Birthday, it is a disco track, and none of Teenage Dream tracks are disco. The only similarity that Birthday might share with some songs from Teenage Dream is that it is bubblegum and fun. And just because This Is How We Do is colorful, happy, fun, and etc... doesn't mean that it is that similar to Teenage Dream. Teenage Dream and PRISM might share the same producers for most of the part, but that's the closest that they get. Have you even listened to Unconditionally, Ghost, Love Me, This Moment, Double Rainbow, By The Grace Of God, Spiritual, It Takes Two, and Choose Your Battles? I guess not.I thought it was common knowledge that Prism was a watered down version of Teenage Dream...? Prism doesn't have a personality and that is a difference from TD. Prism is a collection of TD leftovers, DH, and some adult contemporary. scan my barcode Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Prismatic 4,789 Posted May 25, 2015 Share Posted May 25, 2015 Talking to you is like talking to a brick wall. That's why I have some people on ignore, baby. There's really no point in talking to some of the members here. No matter what Katy do, they will always think of something negative about her or deny anything she does to be impactful. If I didn't like Gaga, then I wouldn't even be here. I Only Stan For Risk Takers Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prismatic 4,789 Posted May 25, 2015 Share Posted May 25, 2015 I thought it was common knowledge that Prism was a watered down version of Teenage Dream...? Prism doesn't have a personality and that is a difference from TD. Prism is a collection of TD leftovers, DH, and some adult contemporary. .... What? times a million. If anything, I don't see personality in TD than PRISM. TD is a fun, pop record that gave Katy success, but I don't really see "Katy", but just an artist doing what the company is suggesting her to do. PRISM on the other hand, it shows the weak and strong point in Katy. The latter half of PRISM shows her being weak and helpless when she had her divorce and all the other sad things that had happen. I Only Stan For Risk Takers Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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