thierryrreiht 20,169 Posted July 10, 2015 Share Posted July 10, 2015 ALL EXCEPT DOPE Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super 683 Posted July 10, 2015 Share Posted July 10, 2015 My favorite single is Venus. It has lot of potential; that was wasted sadly. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Highway10 1,072 Posted July 10, 2015 Share Posted July 10, 2015 Venus and Do What U Want really get you in the party mood Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supersonic 49,376 Posted July 11, 2015 Share Posted July 11, 2015 amenvodka's conspiracy theories:I remember in BTW era everbody said that is straying TOO far from what is commercially acceptable/successful and how the BTW era was a huge mess that damaged her career because she became political and flamboyantly took stances on gay rights and immigration which ostracized a strong commercial audience. I also noticed how she was pretty loose on deadlines, and that she took A LOT of time to prepare things, like the album being released 3 months after the lead single, video releases being pushed back and forwards and the tour dates being announced long after the era was already over. I also noticed how Gaga said the ARTPOP era was extremely stressful for her, with deadlines being really tight (1 week to write, shoot and edit the Applause & DWUW videos).My guess is that Troy DELIBERATELY set up Gaga's time schedule so tightly, so that she doesn't have time to think of elaborate treatments for videos, fashion etc. and just goes along with doing something more basic and SAFE for the sake of boosting sales and still being able to profit of her work. However that backfired completely when the DWUW video was in talks because him cutting Gaga's time so short not only exhausted her physically, it made her write the probably most controversial (and in his eyes probably career-ending) video treatment of her career, causing him to see Gaga as a non-profitable sinking ship regardless and quitting his work. This resulted into Gaga breaking down and realizing that Troy deliberately tried to hinder her creativity for his monetary gain and the mess happened. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sweet spot 3,241 Posted July 13, 2015 Share Posted July 13, 2015 I think that she/her producers overproduced the ARTPOP songs. Like, MANiCURE + Sex Dreams' iTunes Festival version were perfect, why did she need to change some aspects of those songs? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolf 1,328 Posted July 13, 2015 Share Posted July 13, 2015 DWUW is the best single decision so far... but sadly it didn't receive much promo/treatment Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sweet spot 3,241 Posted July 14, 2015 Share Posted July 14, 2015 Well, in my opinion ARTPOP didn't flop. It just hasn't done as well as her previous recodings did, and I think it happend because of: - Mess on the single's choice- REALLY, REALLY, REALLY, REALLY high hype- Overproduced songs (what also happend with BTW)- Bad/messy divulgation- Not as good as ppl expected to be (it's a gr8 album, but, bc of the wait and hype, everyone expected a bit more)- Polemics (DWUW vid, Troy breakdown)- Jokes with the title (ARTFLOP) That's it. What do you think? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supersonic 49,376 Posted July 14, 2015 Share Posted July 14, 2015 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paco 3,040 Posted July 14, 2015 Share Posted July 14, 2015 not this again let it rest in peace Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jjang 2,262 Posted July 14, 2015 Share Posted July 14, 2015 People just lost interest, It's not rocket science. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rat Boy 39,073 Posted July 14, 2015 Share Posted July 14, 2015 Not this thread again. "dont trust this crooked manipulative rat!" - @NichuuB Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Didymus 32,930 Posted July 14, 2015 Share Posted July 14, 2015 It sounded dated, the EDM sound didn't attract pop lovers and the pop sound didn't interest EDM lovers, the pretentious title, the unattractive visual presentation of herself in interviews and pictures, a lack of mindblowing promo performances, the dominance of Miley doing everything she should be doing, radio boycotts,... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Torsoface 3,262 Posted July 14, 2015 Share Posted July 14, 2015 Bad promotionPrism vs ARTPOP messToo girly musicToo dated music (Should've been released in 2012)Too artsy fartsy GP didn't get it Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bloody 64,631 Posted July 14, 2015 Share Posted July 14, 2015 @ARTPOPdidntflop ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fiona Apple 13,006 Posted July 14, 2015 Share Posted July 14, 2015 It did not.Bye Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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