Marilyn Manson

[dc1993 1]

I lurked too, rarely posted and was there for Golden Age, EMDM and HEoL. The elitists there were awful but it was the main place to go and get info and I still loved it (especially when they got exclusive interviews with the man himself). I'm still bitter about it closing out of the blue.

Yeah they had an interview when manson/twiggy reuinited didn't they? I seem to remember that.. it's probably on MansonWiki actually.

Do we not know why it closed then?

[The Stranger 4]

WHAT HAPPEND TO BABYLON FORUM? :cry:

[dc1993 1]

WHAT HAPPEND TO BABYLON FORUM? :cry:

I have noooo idea. Most likely it'll re-appear around the BV album release, with a new theme :)

[The Stranger 4]

I have noooo idea. Most likely it'll re-appear around the BV album release, with a new theme :)

I miss it :cry:

[ryan1 0]

WHAT HAPPEND TO BABYLON FORUM? :cry:

I've been wondering the same thing. It closed out of the blue just like MansonUSA but at least the latter had a letter explaining that it was closing. I think dc will be right in saying that it will probably come back up around BV release date. I hope so. :ohno:

[The Stranger 4]

OMFG **** IS GETTING EXCITING WITH BORN VILLAIN. THERE ARE LYRICS LEAKING AND THE NO REFLECTION VIDEO IS ABOUT TO LEAK TOO.

[The Stranger 4]

I JUST READ THE BORN VILLAIN LYRICS THEY JUST LEAKED HOLY ****!

They are VERY repetitive, but they're ****ing DEEP and thoughtful. OH MY GOD

[RAMROD 104,560]

Do we not know why it closed then?

This is why. A bit long though so brace yourself to read it.

Friday, June 19th, 2009 - 11:16:22

this is not an official statement from Manson but rather informing many of you on some current events.

a five page grocery list in small type of further reasons for this could be discussed, but won't.

at current. however should various parties continue to **** with Manson without provocation (not even including everything done and said about myself for no reason over the past 4 years, and am remaining objective in this situation) such information may be addressed in a public light. a brief statement though is in order before the Katrina ****-storm is full under way.

whether it was genuine or merely a sympathy ploy to "leave" and "sell" the domain name Mansonusa.com,

it had become readily apparent that the site owners and administrators were using it for nothing more than an invisible mouthpiece as public slander and defamation against Manson, exploiting his very name (ie - MANSONusa.com) to accomplish this.

for example, it's clever enough to tag over 200 threads with the byline of "(Manson does coke)",

deliberately using parentheses so that in every such thread it will be the first to appear.

but the story rings quite differently when each and every thread pertaining to the new tour contains the tagline "ihopetheyshoothimonstage".

when this is directed towards an artist who HAS had thousands of death threats and who has had friends who have actually been shot onstage, ie - Dimebag Darrell, what may be construed as tongue-in-cheek had slowly escalated and reached the point of crossing the line and had become what is absolutely libelous and criminal.

and in a court of law ; absolutely yes. let's remember, all it took was a neighbor's ******* dog barking allegedly Satanic messages for David "Son of Sam" Berkowitz to kill and wound 13 people throughout New York City in the late 70's.

in the past 24 hours the said site moderators and administrators had apparently gotten wise to the gravity of these implications and had changed "(Manson does coke)" to "(Manzin drinks diet coke)".

cute and quaint, yes, but this was nothing more than a coy and disingenuous temporary (and poor) reneging on something which they themselves started. all of this and hundreds more has been documented and screen captured, time-stamps included, with who posted what if any of this ever becomes required for future use.

the internet is not a toy which one can sit reclined at their leather deskchair with a pizza in one hand, a diet coke on the table, in their underwear and continually harass under the assumed cloak of anonymity.

even aside from it being documented and fully apparent who was behind this current situation.

you do not need a million dollars or be a rockstar either, you only have to know your rights and realize when others begin to feignly believe they have the right to infringe upon your's. this was a case of using Manson's name, image and art, along with a status previously entrusted to the site administrators out of good faith which was wantonly abused by using that status (which was obtained by links, search engine placement, interviews and traffic directed towards to site, ect) for the purpose of public defamation, threats and attempt to steer the entire fan community toward a negative bias against the artist whom they were gathered to venerate, allegedly at one point. one needs only browse a handful of random threads there to realize this was the case but this by no means will imply that Manson has any ill feelings towards the many, many, many fans there who were 110% genuine. unfortunately the bullies ran the broken down playground when there was little elsewhere to play.

discussion on this matter will remain closed, as to prevent this from devolving from vindication into a ***** pissing contest, and further statements, if deemed necessary to occur, should only be from Manson himself and not you or i.

furthermore, expect a 'Message Board' link to appear on MarilynManson.com which will direct to our new home here.

Source(s):

Marilyn Manson's Official Forum--> http://www.nachtkaba...m/babalon/index

For those who doesn't feel like to read this tl;dr,

the point is that Manson have been using his rights to closed down

the MansonUSA for their public defamation against him, among many other things.

Edited April 3, 2012 by oom.chianti

[dc1993 1]

I've been wondering the same thing. It closed out of the blue just like MansonUSA but at least the latter had a letter explaining that it was closing. I think dc will be right in saying that it will probably come back up around BV release date. I hope so.

Well Nick Kushner (the guy who runs Nackbarrett/Babylon) is bass franz with Manson, so Im sure Babylon isn't dead, just hibernating till BV release :D

OMFG **** IS GETTING EXCITING WITH BORN VILLAIN. THERE ARE LYRICS LEAKING AND THE NO REFLECTION VIDEO IS ABOUT TO LEAK TOO.

I JUST READ THE BORN VILLAIN LYRICS THEY JUST LEAKED HOLY ****!

They are VERY repetitive, but they're ****ing DEEP and thoughtful. OH MY GOD

leaked lyrics? Im skeptical about how legit leaked lyrics could be, but Im asking on MansonWiki now..

This is why. A bit long though so brace yourself to read it.

Friday, June 19th, 2009 - 11:16:22

this is not an official statement from Manson but rather informing many of you on some current events.

a five page grocery list in small type of further reasons for this could be discussed, but won't.

at current. however should various parties continue to **** with Manson without provocation (not even including everything done and said about myself for no reason over the past 4 years, and am remaining objective in this situation) such information may be addressed in a public light. a brief statement though is in order before the Katrina ****-storm is full under way.

whether it was genuine or merely a sympathy ploy to "leave" and "sell" the domain name Mansonusa.com,

it had become readily apparent that the site owners and administrators were using it for nothing more than an invisible mouthpiece as public slander and defamation against Manson, exploiting his very name (ie - MANSONusa.com) to accomplish this.

for example, it's clever enough to tag over 200 threads with the byline of "(Manson does coke)",

deliberately using parentheses so that in every such thread it will be the first to appear.

but the story rings quite differently when each and every thread pertaining to the new tour contains the tagline "ihopetheyshoothimonstage".

when this is directed towards an artist who HAS had thousands of death threats and who has had friends who have actually been shot onstage, ie - Dimebag Darrell, what may be construed as tongue-in-cheek had slowly escalated and reached the point of crossing the line and had become what is absolutely libelous and criminal.

and in a court of law ; absolutely yes. let's remember, all it took was a neighbor's ******* dog barking allegedly Satanic messages for David "Son of Sam" Berkowitz to kill and wound 13 people throughout New York City in the late 70's.

in the past 24 hours the said site moderators and administrators had apparently gotten wise to the gravity of these implications and had changed "(Manson does coke)" to "(Manzin drinks diet coke)".

cute and quaint, yes, but this was nothing more than a coy and disingenuous temporary (and poor) reneging on something which they themselves started. all of this and hundreds more has been documented and screen captured, time-stamps included, with who posted what if any of this ever becomes required for future use.

the internet is not a toy which one can sit reclined at their leather deskchair with a pizza in one hand, a diet coke on the table, in their underwear and continually harass under the assumed cloak of anonymity.

even aside from it being documented and fully apparent who was behind this current situation.

you do not need a million dollars or be a rockstar either, you only have to know your rights and realize when others begin to feignly believe they have the right to infringe upon your's. this was a case of using Manson's name, image and art, along with a status previously entrusted to the site administrators out of good faith which was wantonly abused by using that status (which was obtained by links, search engine placement, interviews and traffic directed towards to site, ect) for the purpose of public defamation, threats and attempt to steer the entire fan community toward a negative bias against the artist whom they were gathered to venerate, allegedly at one point. one needs only browse a handful of random threads there to realize this was the case but this by no means will imply that Manson has any ill feelings towards the many, many, many fans there who were 110% genuine. unfortunately the bullies ran the broken down playground when there was little elsewhere to play.

discussion on this matter will remain closed, as to prevent this from devolving from vindication into a ***** pissing contest, and further statements, if deemed necessary to occur, should only be from Manson himself and not you or i.

furthermore, expect a 'Message Board' link to appear on MarilynManson.com which will direct to our new home here.

Source(s):

Marilyn Manson's Official Forum--> http://www.nachtkaba...m/babalon/index

For those who doesn't feel like to read this tl;dr,

the point is that Manson have been using his rights to closed down

the MansonUSA for their public defamation against him, among many other things.

Oh yes I remember that! I only lurked in their forums and read their main news-thing there

http://greendaystephinmerritt.tumblr.com/ shiiiit! New leaked Manson pics! Some of these remind me of TGAOG era <3

http://greendaystephinmerritt.tumblr.com/post/20394276957 this photo, feels really TGAOG to me anyway

http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m1vz9lXHRO1rr2vxwo1_500.jpg this one reminds me of the MDNA album cover :toofunny:

[dc1993 1]

here's the BV lyrics http://pastebin.com/cnYgdrAn

They all sound really promising!

[The Stranger 4]

THE NEW PHOTOS AND LYRICS

[dc1993 1]

the lyrics are absolutly the best written work he's done since The Golden Age of Grotesque. The Baudelaire influence is very, very noticeable. Les Fleurs du Mal is one of the first books I ever bought, and it feels like one of those funny coincidences when, years later, one of your favourite musicians says he used it to write an album with :lol:

[The Stranger 4]

No these are his best lyrics since HOLY WOOD.

[dc1993 1]

Some tracks have the word-play that is very reminiscent of Golden Age, and personally I rate Golden Age quite highly - I know you don't though :)

Probably most excited to hear The Gardner and Slo-Mo-Tion now!

[The Stranger 4]

Yeah even if TGAOG is one of my least favorite manson albums, I do enjoy the lyrics more than the sound!