AgusPop 4,141 Posted April 14, 2015 Share Posted April 14, 2015 This is her new plan, to harass young guys on stage Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iwontell 7,312 Posted April 14, 2015 Share Posted April 14, 2015 Dude, I sort of expected Madonna to underperform - so it was no surprise for me...and quite frankly I don't see things getting better in the future. Despite the sales, Madonna has a huge career and has no need to prove herself anymore. Longevity by itself sets her apart, she's an stablished artist. It's like, how many rock bands are out there, selling out arenas and stadiums with little to none current commercial success? There's a plethora of those...Bruce Springsteen, Roger Waters, Bon Jovi, Rolling Stones...that's Madonna's case now (and her fans must deal with it). Even if she has no comercial success in the future, she'll keep on making a lot of money from her tours and being relevant for a long while (LM must deal with it)...it's as simple as that...And this "war" between Madonna's and Gaga's stans is so embarrassing already...both fan bases keep acting like idiots. ATTENTION: (bad) jokes and sarcasm are still a thing, so don't take everything I say literally. Thank you. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaneybaby 450 Posted April 14, 2015 Share Posted April 14, 2015 i dont wanna have people going nuts here but i feel madonna releases new albums just to go on tours so she can make bank. its reverse ARTPOP for me. bling not the music. just how i see it I'm sorry Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AgusPop 4,141 Posted April 14, 2015 Share Posted April 14, 2015 Cher doesn't act like a 70 year old person tho, you make no sense as usual And you're making it about her age like darkwold said already Those ^^ pictures are old. Cher is a Dame now. look: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spock 20,290 Posted April 14, 2015 Share Posted April 14, 2015 Those ^^ pictures are old. Cher is a Dame now. look: Then you must have not seen the costumes for her tour last year because they look exactly like ^^ those. Bob Mackie was even going to come back, so your argument isn't really valid who will love me when the night is over Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LORD GAGA 1,271 Posted April 14, 2015 Share Posted April 14, 2015 Madonna was not involved with the leaks. Collectors had the demos and were being sold via the net. I remember hearing from members trading on several forums and vice-versa. So tell me how Madonna is behind all this especially when her whole sessions leaked? Along with songs that never made the album?If you say so... i still believe that she or her team had something or a lot to do with the leaks... and the reason that it all leaked is probably so they could gauge fan interest to structure the album from the songs that people liked most. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schwerk 7,246 Posted April 14, 2015 Share Posted April 14, 2015 If she would really consistently train her vocal chords like she does with the rest of her body, shed be a much better singer. She uses her voice incorrectly and has little control and power. She used to be a lot better. Also what irks me are not how little clothes she weares, but how tacky they usually are. Her taste is becoming more and more questionable. I hope she'll focus on getting a stronger voice so it's not such distraction when she performs and gets a new stylist. According to Gaga I'm a ****ing rad bitch Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Didymus 34,379 Posted April 14, 2015 Share Posted April 14, 2015 i dont wanna have people going nuts here but i feel madonna releases new albums just to go on tours so she can make bank. its reverse ARTPOP for me. bling not the music. just how i see it I'm sorry I get what you're saying but at the same time, I think you underestimate the effort of putting together an album (though in the case of Rebel Heart there doesn't seem to be much) and a tour. And in the case of Madonna, her tours are always a massive undertaking both from a creative and artistic and from a physical point of view. I'll admit though that it seems like for the MDNA Tour she wasn't even artistically involved, but a hardcore fan might say that was because of her flop film, as she was 100% involved with putting together the dvd, no matter how horribly she did in the end.I might get in trouble for saying this, but it's very different from a regular artist or even for example a huge rock act who don't even release new albums and just go on tour, which for them means just stepping on stage with their instruments and playing a set without the intricacy of Madonna's shows.So I get it, but I still don't think that we should forget how much hard work she's still going through "so she can make bank". Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
iloveit123 130 Posted April 14, 2015 Share Posted April 14, 2015 I love her... but I am getting tired of the "kiss younger artist for shock value" antics... and the grill, no pants 100% of the time... ugh, Madonna.... after this tour, I want her to take a break from music.I think she is a great director.... if she actually chose a project people can relate to, and somehow had a hit on her hands, this could improve her image. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
darkwolf 590 Posted April 14, 2015 Share Posted April 14, 2015 If you say so... i still believe that she or her team had something or a lot to do with the leaks... and the reason that it all leaked is probably so they could gauge fan interest to structure the album from the songs that people liked most.Lol, no. A lot of the songs fans loved weren't in the album; and actually the leaks had a negative impact on the quality of the production because she had to rush everything and also said she had to change some of the songs because everyone heard them. Take the album version of Joan of arc as an example. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LORD GAGA 1,271 Posted April 14, 2015 Share Posted April 14, 2015 Lol, no. A lot of the songs fans loved weren't in the album; and actually the leaks had a negative impact on the quality of the production because she had to rush everything and also said she had to change some of the songs because everyone heard them. Take the album version of Joan of arc as an example.If you believe that that's fine... but i'd say the songs had been near or on their final production for some time before the leaks even happened, this is the ultimate excuse because the leaks had the capability to help the album but should the album underperform it wouldn't take a genius to work out that her fans could use the same excuse as to why it underperformed. The album was never going to do well wether it leaked or not... the majority of people wouldn't even know the album existed had the album not leaked. Yes some that fans liked a lot werent included but oh well, I'm not a 'madonna hater' I'm just being logical, this album campaign has been a failure from the get go. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shitwrecked 183 Posted April 14, 2015 Share Posted April 14, 2015 I hate when people say the leak affected the album. No one from the general public knew about the leak. The reason why she is not selling well is because her fanbase have aged, which makes it harder for her to stay relevant in today's music industry. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pop 4,541 Posted April 14, 2015 Share Posted April 14, 2015 This era was such a huge slap in the face to her and and her cocky stans. I LIVE! The Taylor Brigade: KNOCKOUT Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
darkwolf 590 Posted April 14, 2015 Share Posted April 14, 2015 If you believe that that's fine... but i'd say the songs had been near or on their final production for some time before the leaks even happened, this is the ultimate excuse because the leaks had the capability to help the album but should the album underperform it wouldn't take a genius to work out that her fans could use the same excuse as to why it underperformed. The album was never going to do well wether it leaked or not... the majority of people wouldn't even know the album existed had the album not leaked. Yes some that fans liked a lot werent included but oh well, I'm not a 'madonna hater' I'm just being logical, this album campaign has been a failure from the get go.This doesn't make any sense. Do you think she cares about what excuses her fans will have to make if the album flops? She doesn't fear negative press or articles about her album underperforming.I didn't say that RH would've sold millions if it didn't leak; but to act as if the leaks came from her and as they didn't hurt the album is pretty delusional. What about the guy who is now in prison in Israel? And also, if they really planned that they could've capitalized on that buzz, instead she only put out 6 songs, and the first single and official big promo was like two months later.And yes, this album campaign is a messy failure, and the leaks helped to make it even messier. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingcalvin 1 Posted April 14, 2015 Share Posted April 14, 2015 I think this article is a good addition to the discussion:Madonna: Did the rush-release of “Living For Love” kill the pop gem’s potential?The year is 2014. Bottom line: More than 40 million albums sold in the US. Eight #1 albums in Germany. 34 Platinum awards for her albums in the UK. These are just three immaculate examples in three of the world’s most important music markets which should actually prove that Madonna has nothing to prove anymore. But being the Queen of Pop implies being popular. So it’s no surprise that pop artists are always expected to deliver commercially. And the standards in people’s minds for a “Queen” are high. A quick look at the performance of her recent lead single.The whole post: http://thepopsuite.tumblr.com/post/116414343805/madonna-did-the-rush-release-of-living-for-love Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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