Popo 3,781 Posted April 2, 2015 Share Posted April 2, 2015 Lies? Probably Betrayals? Definitely Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whispering 18,865 Posted April 2, 2015 Share Posted April 2, 2015 In the interview where she described wanting to quit music after what happened with ARTPOP, she said she didn't know if she ever wanted to do pop again because of how free jazz has allowed her to become.And how would that be a lie? It was her genuine feelings at the time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quartz 12,535 Posted April 2, 2015 Share Posted April 2, 2015 I think at the time she promotes, she does think that what she's saying is the truth. Then plans fall through and her promises break. So it's not technically lying. She just contradicts herself sometimes Inside, we are really made the same. 🕊 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woolfsmck 2,763 Posted April 2, 2015 Share Posted April 2, 2015 She lies every nite... Then she gets up the next day...8-) like a cat in a sil, I observe life, moving and still. My words give a clue,look inside to see whats true Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewYorkCity 10,536 Posted April 2, 2015 Share Posted April 2, 2015 1. She never said that she wasnt doing pop again2. I dont see any lie in her feeling free doing jazz (without pressure, just singing, enjoying it...)3. She doesn't lie, she just feel excited at that moment to share her work and she has ideas and projects that the next day may dissapear and others come because she is a creative person.4. Somethings just cannot be realised because of multiple reasons, life changes and things arround do too (see ARTPOP era), and it can affect. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CannaeDrive 3,412 Posted April 2, 2015 Share Posted April 2, 2015 OP is a bit confused :genuine feelings, honest opinion, dreams, hyperbolic representations =/= lies "Fame Is A Boomerang" - Maria Callas Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spock 20,290 Posted April 2, 2015 Share Posted April 2, 2015 Americano Mariachi versionUncut Judas music videoSecond Born This Way music videoExtended Bad KidsTelephone sequelDWUW videoThe ARTPOP appAct II who will love me when the night is over Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vernier 3,786 Posted April 2, 2015 Share Posted April 2, 2015 As regards the "betrayals", I don't think those were lies, as much as they were Gaga getting overexcited and sharing ideas/plans or thoughts before they are fully fleshed out or concrete, and at the end some of those things end up not happening Frankly my dear, I don't give a damn Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrinceGaga 7,585 Posted April 2, 2015 Share Posted April 2, 2015 Lies? Probably Betrayals? Definitely "Betrayals"? really? Don't you think that's a little over the top and dramatic? I see that term thrown around here and on twitter because of Gaga, followed by "oh my god Gaga betrayed us oh no how could she do this to us. She promised!!! Sigh just another betrayal to add to this list then hm?!!!" and it's like calm down. She had a messy era and went through some **** just leave it alone. She's as "upset" as we are about the era so calling her a betrayer really isn't going to go far . If anyone is to feel betrayed it's Gaga because of what happened with her management. OP: I think she only lies to not give us hints as what's happening next. She is always been a strong figure in my mind and obviously sometimes she can't be that strong person so she has to act stronger than she is. That's not really lying I don't know. I think she's smart in that she doesn't lie in interviews so the press doesn't need a reason to come and find something as she has said everything they want to know. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrewStevens 5,249 Posted April 2, 2015 Share Posted April 2, 2015 Everyone lies and if you think you don't lie you're probably lying to yourself. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
blacklistedd 599 Posted April 2, 2015 Share Posted April 2, 2015 She never said she wouldn't do pop again. Ever. I don't understand why you or any fan chose to delude yourselves into believing that and you all keep reiterating it like its something thats real.And I 100% do not believe she was lying when she said doing that record with Tony Bennett reinvigorated her spirit.People take these "betrayals" as lies, the majority of the time they're not. She gets excited about the album/the era/whatever and probably has 1000 things she'd like to accomplish and she used to be very candid with us and tell us what she'd like to do or what was probably planned. But as anything in real life and the industry, not everything goes according to plan and not everything pans out. I see why people find it frustrating at times, I get it, but if you look at it from a ****ing real perspective and not a stan perspective you see that they are not actually "betrayals".All of that being said, everyone lies. Im sure shes stretched the truth at times or whatever. Its not exactly something to resent her for. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fiona Apple 13,006 Posted April 2, 2015 Share Posted April 2, 2015 I know that everyone lies Btw all these are not "lies".She just gets excited with her ideas and then she understands that she can't make all these things real Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
blacklistedd 599 Posted April 2, 2015 Share Posted April 2, 2015 Of course. She basically, non-verbally, admitted that during the ARTPOP era when she had her big meltdown in December and everything she had been so excited about proved to be against her will.This is not exactly true. You're sort of taking what she said and blanketing it over the era as if she tried to say nothing she did was genuine or legitimate. What she essentially said was that she had an idea of what she wanted the era to be and management had their own idea of what they wanted the era to be. I think what came out at the start of ARTPOP was a frankenstein fusion of her expectations and their expectations which she seemed to clearly start rebelling against early on. You can see the difference between like the first month, in which Applause was released, where she was dressing a little chic-er and the visual palette for the era seemed to take a minimalistic approach. Then it did a 180 and suddenly she was looking super DIY and non-minimal. The excess was back, which seemed to me to be some sort of like "**** you, im going to do the opposite of what you want because im calling the shots in my career". ANYWAY, im sure this paragraph is an overly-a--lytical bore but thats just how I see it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weasel 12,525 Posted April 2, 2015 Share Posted April 2, 2015 There are moments where I don't believe her. Like how she doesn't write for the charts while touring worldwide Or how she wasn't bothered by Applause vs Roar yet made some snarky remarks about Katy. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TimisaMonster 31,073 Posted April 2, 2015 Share Posted April 2, 2015 All...the...time Is that even a question? Stream my new single, 💜"Heartbeat"💜, on Spotify! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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