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A comedy skit on SNL is not a collaboration. It was done for laughs, nothing more. 

​It was definately a definately a collaboration, they worked together on something. It was certainly not just for laughs. Sure it was for that, but also for PR, attention, fame, publicity, recognition etc., Don't even try. :)

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Epione

When you lack some talent and need more sales, it's a good decision to invite some popular people to save her a*s. Justice is real. She's fading out guys. 

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​exactly.... the most popular singer at the moment, and the hottest show in the US... she's like a tapeworm

​I bet her fave sports teams are whoever most recently won the championship.

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Whispering

​It was definately a definately a collaboration, they worked together on something. It was certainly not just for laughs. Sure it was for that, but also for PR, attention, fame, publicity, recognition etc., Don't even try. :)

They worked together to put on a comedy skit that a bunch of writers wrote for them?

That in no way is a music collaboration. 

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Whispering

I was really intrigued by these answers, what's a collaboration and what's not a collaboration? :huh:

So, I finally decided to "look it up", and look what I found :

1. the action of working with someone to produce or create something.
"he wrote on art and architecture in collaboration with John Betjeman"

something produced or created by collaboration.
"his recent opera was a collaboration with Lessing"

2. traitorous cooperation with an enemy.
"he faces charges of collaboration"

I think it's safe to call that l a collaboration, those comedy skits don't write themselves default_awkney2.gif

 

You do realize thst SNL has a whole staff of writers, right? They have around THIRTY

comedy writers on staff every season. Madonna and Gaga showed up and delivered the lines these writers gave them. 

They did a comedy skit, thst was handed to them. That's how SNL works. 

That's not a musical collaboration between two music artists. 

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darkwolf

You do realize thst SNL has a whole staff of writers, right? They have around THIRTY

comedy writers on staff every season. Madonna and Gaga showed up and delivered the lines these writers gave them. 

They did a comedy skit, thst was handed to them. That's how SNL works. 

That's not a musical collaboration between two music artists. 

​It's still a collaboration, not a musical one (although they "sang" a little), but still a collaboration. :ohwell:

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Whispering

​It's still a collaboration, not a musical one (although they "sang" a little), but still a collaboration. 

Yes, it is a comedy skit collaboration. One that was written, directed and produced by the writers, directors and producers at SNL. 

 

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darkwolf

Yes, it is a comedy skit collaboration. One that was written, directed and produced by the writers, directors and producers at SNL. 

 

​Who knows :ohwell:

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StrawberryBlond

​Which one of Madonna's peers is she going to collab with? She's already done Prince. Michael Jackson and Whitney are dead. Janet Jackson is busy enjoying her royal husband.

​Just because she's pop doesn't mean she can only go to pop artists. We've seen collabs between pop and rap, pop and rock, pop and country, even pop and jazz (hello, C2C?) They don't have to be legendary acts either. Part of the beauty of being an artist is stepping outwith your comfort zone and experiencing new things and new people. The only genre-hopping Madonna will do for a collab is hip hop, to be down with da kidz. She could benefit from exploring what music as a whole has to offer.

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bionic

​Just because she's pop doesn't mean she can only go to pop artists. We've seen collabs between pop and rap, pop and rock, pop and country, even pop and jazz (hello, C2C?) They don't have to be legendary acts either. Part of the beauty of being an artist is stepping outwith your comfort zone and experiencing new things and new people. The only genre-hopping Madonna will do for a collab is hip hop, to be down with da kidz. She could benefit from exploring what music as a whole has to offer.

Do you have examples of realistic, potential collaborators?

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Psychedelic

When you lack some talent and need more sales, it's a good decision to invite some popular people to save her a*s. Justice is real. She's fading out guys. 

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​She will fade out when people stop caring about everything she does. I mean, people like you. I see you in every Madonna thread :sis: 

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StrawberryBlond

​I'm not going to give a list of every single artists in their 50's she could work with, but I'm sure you're aware of some. How would I know who would be willing to work with her and who wouldn't? But there's plenty of legends out there who'd be more than happy to work with a fellow legend, I'm sure. I find it pretty embarrassing that a legend has resorted to collabing with new, up and coming acts who could be gone by next year like Chance The Rapper in a bid to stay relevant. At least Paul McCartney waited until Rihanna had been in the industry a decade and proved that she wasn't a one hit wonder and had staying power before he collabed with her - he didn't collab when she was 17 and just starting out and could be here today, gone tomorrow. When you're a legend, you've got to make your collab choices very carefully as it'll look bad if you only go for relevant types who are young enough to be your kids/grandkids. And it'll reflect even worse on you if said acts fade out afterwards.

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QueenGadonna

So what I've learn from this topics is that if you're a 56 years old artist you can only perform with other 56 years old artists. If you perform with younger artist you are desperate, unpopular and you have no talent.

Oh GGD, you amaze me every day.:applause:

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Epione

​She will fade out when people stop caring about everything she does. I mean, people like you. I see you in every Madonna thread http://gagadaily.com/uploads/default_sis2.gif 

​Everyday there are being created more threads about Madonna than Gaga. When you are a part of Gaga's fanbase, you must have an opinion about Madonna. I have. :thetea:

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​I'm not going to give a list of every single artists in their 50's she could work with, but I'm sure you're aware of some. How would I know who would be willing to work with her and who wouldn't? But there's plenty of legends out there who'd be more than happy to work with a fellow legend, I'm sure. I find it pretty embarrassing that a legend has resorted to collabing with new, up and coming acts who could be gone by next year like Chance The Rapper in a bid to stay relevant. At least Paul McCartney waited until Rihanna had been in the industry a decade and proved that she wasn't a one hit wonder and had staying power before he collabed with her - he didn't collab when she was 17 and just starting out and could be here today, gone tomorrow. When you're a legend, you've got to make your collab choices very carefully as it'll look bad if you only go for relevant types who are young enough to be your kids/grandkids. And it'll reflect even worse on you if said acts fade out afterwards.

If you can't name anybody then this entire conversation is redundant. Why would Madonna want to perform with some has been folk singer (for example) when that's not the genre she's going for with her albums nor is it the direction she wants to go in.  Madonna is a pop artist and is out to make money. She doesn't pretend to be anything else. If she's releasing a dance album then it makes no sense to duet with a gospel singer or a folk singer. Madonna has worked with Prince. Madonna has worked with Michael Jackson (even though the duet fell through). They are the greats of her time and are her only true peers to this day. 

Tony Bennett first duetted with Lady Gaga 3 years into her career (2011). She was at the top of her game and is in a genre totally differnet to his that is popular with youths. I suppose we can assume that Tony was also working with Gaga to stay relevant? Just because Gaga's been singing jazz since she was 13 doesn't mean that it's more of a legitimate duet. Most of Madonna's influences are dead, retired or rarely perform. He's also duetted with legends like Sheryl Crow and Aretha Franklin. This whole "Madonna works with young stars for attention!!" is so irrelevant. Everybody does it. Why bother waiting to see if Chance the Rapper is relevant in 10 years time when they want to duet now? It means nothing.

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