Ladey Gagz 2,512 Posted March 17, 2015 Share Posted March 17, 2015 Gaga was panned by everyone and the media for selling 250k in the #1 spot for ARTPOPs first week. She was given **** for the fact that it sold less than her previous album first week and because it barely sold less than her peers who were all like a couple of thousand more than her. Ultimately they were all in the same ballpark (Katy-Prism, Miley-Bangerz). Some monsters, some pop stans in general are going to talk **** naturally, but ultimately its kind of dumb to give people **** here for talking **** about other artists first week sales when EVERYONE talked **** about gaga. So why then, when Rebel Heart pulls Britney Jean tragic sales in comparison to MDNA which sold over 300k more in its first week, should Madonna be the one to get a pass? Why isn't anyone scolding the Madonna and Katy stans that were talking mad **** about Gagas first week sales when they weren't even as poor as this? Honestly, I think Rebel Heart did considerably alright for what it is, but im just pointing out the annoying hypocrisy of everyone in this thread thats trying to act like we need to suddenly be humble when this fanbase has been bogged down tremendously over the past 3 years. Were not the ones that need to be humbled. Just sayin. We probably just think differently. For you, people scolded Gaga for her first week sales and if Madonna gets into the same situation as Gaga, we should all gang up on Madonna because Gaga got crushed for it. Let's admit that, as a fanbase, it was a pretty dark era for us But for me, people scolded Gaga for her first week sales, and we thought it was unfair so why should we do it to others? We know how it felt, so why should we do the same to Madonna and her fans? If there's a fanbase that wouldn't bash on Madonna for her first week sales, it would be us since it happened to Gaga. And I was saying that we made fun of others' sales and Gaga got worse first week sales than the people we were criticizing, so it was pretty embarrassing. Everyone tried to defend Gaga, but it was pretty hypocritical considered everyone made fun of others who actually did better than Gaga. Why make fun of others AGAIN when we never know what numbers Gaga will pull? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
blacklistedd 599 Posted March 17, 2015 Share Posted March 17, 2015 We probably just think differently. For you, people scolded Gaga for her first week sales and if Madonna gets into the same situation as Gaga, we should all gang up on Madonna because Gaga got crushed for it. Let's admit that, as a fanbase, it was a pretty dark era for us But for me, people scolded Gaga for her first week sales, and we thought it was unfair so why should we do it to others? We know how it felt, so why should we do the same to Madonna and her fans? If there's a fanbase that wouldn't bash on Madonna for her first week sales, it would be us since it happened to Gaga. And I was saying that we made fun of others' sales and Gaga got worse first week sales than the people we were criticizing, so it was pretty embarrassing. Everyone tried to defend Gaga, but it was pretty hypocritical considered everyone made fun of others who actually did better than Gaga. Why make fun of others AGAIN when we never know what numbers Gaga will pull? Im not saying we need to or should gang up on her. Im just pointing out the hypocrisy and why complaining about anyone being negative towards her first week sales, to me, is a fruitless effort because even if I don't care to do it, why shouldn't she get some ****? Everyone else does. I don't think she deserves it any less than anyone else, especially considering how much the critics have overrated this album already. And im so not into this whole like circle jerk mentality of what I bolded in your post. Theres some monsters that try so hard to like Madonna and be a "stan" and obsess over her and be nice to her and her fans and meanwhile they get a pass for ****ting on Gaga and Gaga gets criticism and were just supposed to take it or agree and it just makes the fanbase as a whole look ****ing pathetic imo. Not saying people shouldn't like Madonna to prove a point either, not at all. But I just hate when people make a conscious effort to do or not do something. Just be real. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ladey Gagz 2,512 Posted March 17, 2015 Share Posted March 17, 2015 Im not saying we need to or should gang up on her. Im just pointing out the hypocrisy and why complaining about anyone being negative towards her first week sales, to me, is a fruitless effort because even if I don't care to do it, why shouldn't she get some ****? Everyone else does. I don't think she deserves it any less than anyone else, especially considering how much the critics have overrated this album already. And im so not into this whole like circle jerk mentality of what I bolded in your post. Theres some monsters that try so hard to like Madonna and be a "stan" and obsess over her and be nice to her and her fans and meanwhile they get a pass for ****ting on Gaga and Gaga gets criticism and were just supposed to take it or agree and it just makes the fanbase as a whole look ****ing pathetic imo. Not saying people shouldn't like Madonna to prove a point either, not at all. But I just hate when people make a conscious effort to do or not do something. Just be real. Alright I get where you're coming from. Although I don't agree, I see where you're coming from Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrinceGaga 7,470 Posted March 17, 2015 Share Posted March 17, 2015 121k. ARTPOP 259k. rebel heart 121k. Cheek to Cheek 131k Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snow 1,582 Posted March 17, 2015 Share Posted March 17, 2015 Congraz Madonna for 6th consecutive best selling album and 9th all together! And again, as for why this is a succes for M and ARTPOP was a huge underperformance for Gaga and why people treat them differently is that Madonna is a nearly sixty-year-old pop veteran 33 year in to her career so this is amazing succes for her not a flop. However Gaga was on her third/fourth album and supposed to be in the hight of her career so in that light ARTPOP was a true failure and deserved some of the criticism it got.And then if we compare M's number to other older acts like Mariah, Celine, Britney, Cher etc,. She did really well. So congraz again M! This era has been wonderful and so is the album!(besides we know the tour will slay yet again) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bitter 3,640 Posted March 17, 2015 Share Posted March 17, 2015 queen of #2s Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spock 20,290 Posted March 17, 2015 Share Posted March 17, 2015 What did you guys expect?? She was cursed from the start Mess at the people calling this a flop and throwing the word karma around though Let's see where Gaga will be 9 albums from nowCongrats Madge who will love me when the night is over Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NONONONO 709 Posted March 17, 2015 Share Posted March 17, 2015 Congrats Queen.This is one of her best eras. 30 years into the game and still doing what she loves and having success at it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewYorkCity 10,515 Posted March 17, 2015 Share Posted March 17, 2015 C2C sold more Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxthewonderdog 300 Posted March 17, 2015 Share Posted March 17, 2015 Flop. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
monketsharona 57,741 Posted March 17, 2015 Share Posted March 17, 2015 Not so bad... Though her album is now falling hard on Itunes (WW)... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrewStevens 5,249 Posted March 17, 2015 Share Posted March 17, 2015 Expected tbhI'm glad she still can sell albums but let's not act like if this wasn't a flop. It is a flop. Considering how many tickets she can sell in the US her album should have done a little bit better. We can't compare her to Cher or Barbra cause they don't have the amount of promotion Madonna has and they are not selling their music to big audiences anymore. We can appreciate her longevity and her legacy but that has nothing to do with these album sales.And you all can stop throwing Gaga into this. Saying how much more she sold with ARTPOP isn't going to make Rebel Heart flop more than it already did and using the "she has being relevant for more than 30 years" won't change the fact that it is a flop. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
QueenGadonna 298 Posted March 17, 2015 Share Posted March 17, 2015 We probably just think differently. For you, people scolded Gaga for her first week sales and if Madonna gets into the same situation as Gaga, we should all gang up on Madonna because Gaga got crushed for it. Let's admit that, as a fanbase, it was a pretty dark era for us But for me, people scolded Gaga for her first week sales, and we thought it was unfair so why should we do it to others? We know how it felt, so why should we do the same to Madonna and her fans? If there's a fanbase that wouldn't bash on Madonna for her first week sales, it would be us since it happened to Gaga. And I was saying that we made fun of others' sales and Gaga got worse first week sales than the people we were criticizing, so it was pretty embarrassing. Everyone tried to defend Gaga, but it was pretty hypocritical considered everyone made fun of others who actually did better than Gaga. Why make fun of others AGAIN when we never know what numbers Gaga will pull? Well said! I hate the whole '' its happened to Gaga so Madonna deserve it too'' crap. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
craig 680 Posted March 17, 2015 Share Posted March 17, 2015 Congraz Madonna for 6th consecutive best selling album and 9th all together! And again, as for why this is a succes for M and ARTPOP was a huge underperformance for Gaga and why people treat them differently is that Madonna is a nearly sixty-year-old pop veteran 33 year in to her career so this is amazing succes for her not a flop. However Gaga was on her third/fourth album and supposed to be in the hight of her career so in that light ARTPOP was a true failure and deserved some of the criticism it got.And then if we compare M's number to other older acts like Mariah, Celine, Britney, Cher etc,. She did really well. So congraz again M! This era has been wonderful and so is the album! Celine's sales compare VERY well with Madonna's last two albums. She blocked both Eminem and ARTPOP debut weeks in Canada. Thing is, Madonna gets jealous like she's a direct competitor of Gaga, her fans talk as if theyre on the same level, so why does she suddenly get off as an revered elder now? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ladey Gagz 2,512 Posted March 17, 2015 Share Posted March 17, 2015 Celine's sales compare VERY well with Madonna's last two albums. She blocked both Eminem and ARTPOP debut weeks in Canada. Thing is, Madonna gets jealous like she's a direct competitor of Gaga, her fans talk as if theyre on the same level, so why does she suddenly get off as an revered elder now? Well she's from Canada and everyone's crazy about her and it's like our pride tbh idk if it's comparable in Canada Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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