JaysAMess 27,843 Posted January 14, 2015 Share Posted January 14, 2015 I strongly disagree. ... Why is she here then? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swan Heart 7,382 Posted January 14, 2015 Share Posted January 14, 2015 ... Why is she here then? Don't you realise how she have changed hundreds of people's lifes? Made them better... Made so many people accept who they are... Helped them... She is not only a popstar, dear. She is a strong, brave and powerful women who have changed a lot for good. Yeah, you don't have to agree with everything she does ( I certainly don't ) but after all she had done we can at least show some respect. And a tread so full of hate towards ARTPOP and Born This Way (and maybe the other albums..) are not speaking good for us. They say it's the last song. They don't know us, you see. It's only the last song if we let it be. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Angelou 22 Posted January 14, 2015 Share Posted January 14, 2015 ARTPOP is miles better than BTW in terms of production and lyrics. maybe you find BTW more personal to you. you could be biased. I'm not saying it's a bad album, but it's pretty basic compared to BTW in terms of lyrics, production and concept Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaysAMess 27,843 Posted January 14, 2015 Share Posted January 14, 2015 Don't you realise how she have changed hundreds of people's lifes? Made them better... Made so many people accept who they are... Helped them... She is not only a popstar, dear. She is a strong, brave and powerful women who have changed a lot for good. Yeah, you don't have to agree with everything she does ( I certainly don't ) but after all she had done we can at least show some respect. And a tread so full of hate towards ARTPOP and Born This Way (and maybe the other albums..) are not speaking good for us. I think it's great that she's helped people but so have plenty of other pop stars, so Gaga isn't the only person to help save and change lives. I guess, by what you're saying, Miley Cyrus, Rihanna, Britney Spears, Justin Bieber, One Direction etc. are more than just pop stars? If you want to see her as some kind of second coming, then go for it.. But to me, she's a pop star. I think you need to learn how to avoid a thread if you feel it'll contain negativity towards Gaga, because you'll only be upsetting yourself by entering and reading the thread. (and just so we're aware, I don't hate ARTPOP, I may dislike most of the songs, but I don't hate it.. I don't hate any of her albums). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carles 168 Posted January 14, 2015 Share Posted January 14, 2015 I've been listening to TFM so much lately. I never used to like it that much but at the moment i am loving it Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swan Heart 7,382 Posted January 14, 2015 Share Posted January 14, 2015 I think it's great that she's helped people but so have plenty of other pop stars, so Gaga isn't the only person to help save and change lives. I guess, by what you're saying, Miley Cyrus, Rihanna, Britney Spears, Justin Bieber, One Direction etc. are more than just pop stars? If you want to see her as some kind of second coming, then go for it.. But to me, she's a pop star. I think you need to learn how to avoid a thread if you feel it'll contain negativity towards Gaga, because you'll only be upsetting yourself by entering and reading the thread. (and just so we're aware, I don't hate ARTPOP, I may dislike most of the songs, but I don't hate it.. I don't hate any of her albums). Well, yes, for me Gaga is FAR more then a pop star. She saved my life. And, yes for some people, I guess, the artists you mentionte maybe are more important and are more then just popstars for them. But I don't really care for them, sincerly told.. As for your advice, I'm really considering the possibility of deleting this acount now. Or at least ignoring this.. thing. (and I'm sorry if my English is too bad.. ) They say it's the last song. They don't know us, you see. It's only the last song if we let it be. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ayo 300 Posted January 14, 2015 Share Posted January 14, 2015 ARTPOP is miles better than BTW in terms of production and lyrics. maybe you find BTW more personal to you. you could be biased. LIES You can like ARTPOP but to say it has better lyrics that BTW I can see why some people think BTW is an overproduced mess, but thats the most amazing thing abt BTW...It sounds amazing on really good speakers Well, yes, for me Gaga is FAR more then a pop star. She saved my life. And, yes for some people, I guess, the artists you mentionte maybe are more important and are more then just popstars for them. But I don't really care for them, sincerly told.. As for your advice, I'm really considering the possibility of deleting this acount now. Or at least ignoring this.. thing. (and I'm sorry if my English is too bad.. ) you really need to learn how to handle a little negativity though you cant expect people to say nice things always Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaysAMess 27,843 Posted January 14, 2015 Share Posted January 14, 2015 Well, yes, for me Gaga is FAR more then a pop star. She saved my life. And, yes for some people, I guess, the artists you mentionte maybe are more important and are more then just popstars for them. But I don't really care for them, sincerly told.. As for your advice, I'm really considering the possibility of deleting this acount now. Or at least ignoring this.. thing. (and I'm sorry if my English is too bad.. ) You shouldn't leave the forum because of the negativity which some users express. With so many active members who post on here, you can't expect them all to post only nice, positive things about Gaga.. They do have some negative opinions about what she does. You have to understand that you'll be seeing some negative threads and posts but you just deal with it. you really need to learn how to handle a little negativity though you cant expect people to say nice things always :) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pandora 162 Posted January 14, 2015 Share Posted January 14, 2015 Couldn't agree more Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swan Heart 7,382 Posted January 14, 2015 Share Posted January 14, 2015 LIES You can like ARTPOP but to say it has better lyrics that BTW I can see why some people think BTW is an overproduced mess, but thats the most amazing thing abt BTW...It sounds amazing on really good speakers you really need to learn how to handle a little negativity though you cant expect people to say nice things always I can handle a little negativity. But this one is not 'little', dear. I really can't imagine how hard is for Gaga to get SO much hate towards her art. If you don't like it just say 'I don't like it' without explaining so hard how ****ty and how awful is.. As I said, there is a deference between constructive criticism ( I don't mind ) and hating on something. They say it's the last song. They don't know us, you see. It's only the last song if we let it be. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ayo 300 Posted January 14, 2015 Share Posted January 14, 2015 I can handle a little negativity. But this one is not 'little', dear. I really can't imagine how hard is for Gaga to get SO much hate towards her art. If you don't like it just say 'I don't like it' without explaining so hard how ****ty and how awful is.. As I said, there is a deference between constructive criticism ( I don't mind ) and hating on something. Gaga is a BIG star she isnt a teenager, she knows very well hot to handle a truckload of negativity, she was only upset due to bad management (apparently) And people are free to express their views, I cant comprehend how if someone describes in detail valid points (according to them) on why gaga's xyz record sucked is labelled as hate, its just an opinion. Gaga has gone through a lot more hate during the early TF era, and she did not let it bother her. She is not obviously affected by a bunch of fan-critics or even haters Also, as a fan I feel just only praising her regardless of what she does it not healthy, thats just my opinion though Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curunir 7,510 Posted January 14, 2015 Share Posted January 14, 2015 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brooke Hoegan 1,018 Posted January 14, 2015 Share Posted January 14, 2015 A year ago when it was releases I kinda like it, but now my god it sounds so soulless, so empty, so repetitive. I miss so much the overproduction of BTW, the heavy bases, at some points the distorted Gaga voice. I´m having a meltdown :air: 1) it felt like it to me from the first listen, it feels like imitation of Gaga 2) they're still present since 2009 tho, and need to go, even calm songs like Alejandro/DWUW have hard basses, she could finally make few softer, lighter sounding songs cause this hard sound of Gaga isn't very fresh anymore Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Psychedelic 1,098 Posted January 14, 2015 Share Posted January 14, 2015 Draga ha! Scalp ha! Skin ha! BTW>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>ARTPOP tbh!!! I don't hate ARTPOP tho, i like it very much, I just dont think it's up to the level of other Gaga productions in many ways, but that's just my opinion Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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