hmm 979 Posted December 19, 2014 Share Posted December 19, 2014 Firstly, metacritic isn't a thing. I never said beyonce stole akerlund, but she worked with him and others. Did I lie? So Beyoncé gets praised as jesus yet only sells 5m. How isn't this underwhelming for the goddess of music? 5m... is that it? It's not perfect (in fact its extremely far from it) but its the closest thing to a standardised platform for comparing we have Don't dismiss it just because Gaga doesn't do well "Is that it?" - Don't forget her recent solo tour did better than any of Gaga's Idk about the one with Jay-Z but I presume it did well too. I don't even like Beyonce (I think she's massively overrated) but dismissing what she does/her success in defense of Gaga is pointless, plus I'm not sure when she did "gaga-music" I'm not sure if Nicki relied on her name either, cus Anaconda did pretty well if I remember correctly I wouldn't even say Gaga relied on her name for btw because it had a hugely successful single along with promotion overload Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SEVDALIZA 1,274 Posted December 19, 2014 Share Posted December 19, 2014 This thread is just depressing at this point. You don't need to belittle other artists in order to make Gaga seem better. Gaga's game is already SOLID, what is it with this constant need to create fights among the artists? It's not how it works. And for the record: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jonas_%C3%85kerlund#Videography operating from another world Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CannaeDrive 3,412 Posted December 19, 2014 Share Posted December 19, 2014 I've always said that one of Gaga's main accomplishments was making everyone else step up their game. She showed up at a point where pop music had become absolutely dismal and completely changed the landscape. This, whatever the others have done. "Fame Is A Boomerang" - Maria Callas Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fiona Apple 13,006 Posted December 19, 2014 Share Posted December 19, 2014 I agree actually Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
COLONiCPRiNXESS 1 Posted December 19, 2014 Share Posted December 19, 2014 Like I love Gaga, otherwise I wouldn't be here, but why are you guys so insecure? The other artists' success does not invalidate Gaga's, you all need to chill. I mean, isn't it a great thing that Gaga had such an impact in the game? If anything, it should only show what she was capable of. Should I remind you you all got pissed off when Madonna accused Gaga of copying her? lol This. Also, the part in the OP about Bey is irrelevant. The surprise release is innovative and impactful. You talk about Jonas did the whole thing with her too but he made like one video with her. The album is platinum and the singles flopped bc no promo. Y'all can sit when it comes to Bey sometimes. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PopBitch 1,218 Posted December 19, 2014 Share Posted December 19, 2014 They all think they're lady Gaga. Nicki, copied gaga, got her producer, tried to emulate her success... and thought she was Gaga going into the pinkprint. She thought it was just that easy. Katy Perry, heavily influenced by Gaga's success, couldn't even get BTW numbers at her PEAK, or the relevant coverage for singles that tfm had. Beyoncé, worked with Jonas Akerlund and others to create a "visual album" thats spoken about like it's a huge success and like she's a legend... the numbers don't reflect that though, and her singles chart positions certainly don't. So next time you're thinking "Gaga needs to do what ____ did!" Just remember that she wiped the floor with them for 4 out of 5 albums and wasn't as poor as them at her worst. This has been a public service announcement from the haus of rollercoaster. You sound delusional about Beyonce. If it makes you feel better to post that about her, go ahead. It sounds more like someone so bitter and trying to devalue her to elevate Gaga, which you can't do in this instance. She doesn't think she's Gaga and no one besides you has ever inferred that. It's embarrassing actually and grasping for straws, for what? I don't get your post. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rollercoaster 2 Posted December 19, 2014 Author Share Posted December 19, 2014 Meow, so much offense taken without giving it. You're all so sensitive, kids! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ladey Gagz 2,512 Posted December 19, 2014 Share Posted December 19, 2014 "Katy Perry, heavily influenced by Gaga's success, couldn't even get BTW numbers at her PEAK, or the relevant coverage for singles that tfm had." nnnn the lies in this part Beyoncé's part is delusional as well and "thought she was Gaga going into the pinkprint. " what Actually the whole post is false now that I think about it Like I love Gaga, otherwise I wouldn't be here, but why are you guys so insecure? The other artists' success does not invalidate Gaga's, you all need to chill. I mean, isn't it a great thing that Gaga had such an impact in the game? If anything, it should only show what she was capable of. Should I remind you you all got pissed off when Madonna accused Gaga of copying her? lol !!!!!!!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ladey Gagz 2,512 Posted December 19, 2014 Share Posted December 19, 2014 Firstly, metacritic isn't a thing. Nicki tried relying on her name to sell an album that went in a different direction. Like gaga did on btw. Changing directions a bit is a Gaga thing now? I don't remember which celebrity said this, but whoever said Little Monsters think that everything revolves around Gaga is right. I think it was AB Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noam Zioni 1,196 Posted December 19, 2014 Share Posted December 19, 2014 Slay me roller coaster! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
danwasd 2,444 Posted December 19, 2014 Share Posted December 19, 2014 I don't need more evidences ... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rollercoaster 2 Posted December 19, 2014 Author Share Posted December 19, 2014 Changing directions a bit is a Gaga thing now? I don't remember which celebrity said this, but whoever said Little Monsters think that everything revolves around Gaga is right. I think it was AB I didn't say it was a Gaga thing. I said it was something gaga did and succeeded with, quite easily on the surface, which likely influenced Nicki to do it seeing as she's had more hits than Gaga. And it failed because Nicki made a superficial connection with her core fanbase but never solidified it like Gaga did. It's all about effort and the way that people thought dressing like Gaga would make them huge, or upping their live performances would make them huge or working with redone would make them huge... but they clearly dont give merit to Gaga working 24/7 for what she has, they don't realise you can't create a strong brand by ticking boxes like Nicki seemed to do. "Got the weird clothes, redone, gays... now lets release an album!" And it hasn't gone well. That was the point of the thread. Not to discredit B or Nicki for their work, but to point out that Gaga has worked tirelessly for years to solidify a fanbase that ensures her flops aren't very floppy and her hits are record bteakers. Which brought comparison with recently lauded "hits" Beconce & Prism, and current big name flop StinkPrint. I noted people they'd worked with similar to Gaga's work, merely to note that they had the same tools for the job as Gaga but have simply failed to replicate her success at their peak (tfm) and swooped below her flop (ARTPOP) With their less popular albums. Those facts when compared to coverage of how ARTPOP did, especially when compared with Beyonce, really highlight a contradiction in standards by both stans and the media. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ex 81 Posted December 19, 2014 Share Posted December 19, 2014 I don't dislike anyone you mentioned but Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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fRancy 0 Posted December 20, 2014 Share Posted December 20, 2014 Ugh. Just no. The most disgusting thing about this was that you completely nullified Beyoncé's widely acclaimed efforts because of how something sold. Completely against everything ARTPOP was about and everything Gaga is about, while also twisting facts and ignoring obvious sales information that would prove you wrong. Trying to pit female artists against one another is also something she criticized. So I don't know what you're trying to do here, except showing you don't give one single **** about Gaga's message, which is all kinds of hilarious. Your Nicki part is just embarrassing. At least pretend to not be a hater. you are so right!!!!!!!! :yes: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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