high heeled fem 3 Posted December 19, 2014 Share Posted December 19, 2014 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9-peuazNjEc it's gone I hate to break it to you, but Madonna lasted more than 3 decades.............when gaga's career looks already tired by now, she's FAR from being on top either. jesus its so stupid to even have this discussion gaga is just starting out now what i would reallly like is for someone to answer my question and post a bloody link to this two steps song I hate to break it to you, but Madonna lasted more than 3 decades.............when gaga's career looks already tired by now, she's FAR from being on top either. jesus its so stupid to even have this discussion gaga is just starting out now what i would reallly like is for someone to answer my question and post a bloody link to this two steps song Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
high heeled fem 3 Posted December 19, 2014 Share Posted December 19, 2014 Are you seriously comparing Instagram followers to levels of success? Madonna only joined Instagram pretty recently, she has never been a fan of social media up until last year and she only uses Instagram. Her Twitter account for instance is just her Instagram posts that get added later on by management... Gaga on the other hand came up with Twitter, YouTube, Facebook and Instagram. What a ridiculous comparison. Ariel Pink was not asked to "help Madonna". An A&R guy (that stands for artist & repertoire, Google it) that knows Ariel suggested he'd submit stuff for Madonna's new album. Just like Stromae was asked to meet up with Madonna and see if they connected, just like Disclosure and MNEK were asked. Madonna didn't even know Ariel Pink until that A&R guy delivered some demo's and Ariel's bio to Madonna's manager. She checked him out and wasn't even interested. He then went on to talk trash about her and her back catalogue in an interview. Like excuse me? Wtf? Madonna has a legendary back catalogue. She doesn't have one hit that defines her career like so many others do. There's not one particular Madonna-hit song that's legendary. She has multiple. "Holiday", "Like A Virgin", "Like A Prayer", "Vogue" and "Hung Up". Madonna is arguably the most known artist on the planet. Very few artists can say that pretty much everyone remembers one of their songs. Only Michael Jackson and Madonna have multiple songs that transcend hit-status. I'd like to say Whitney Houston as well but she has sadly been reduced to "I Will Always Love You" and no other song of hers hit the same level of widespread cult status. That is why Madonna and Michael are Queen and King. No one has even come close to their level of fame or their level of cultural infiltration. Michael Jackson has been dead now since 2009 are still all these other male popstars are mimicking his vocals or his dance moves. Look at Timberlake, Usher, Bruno, ... Everyone. Even Bieber. And look at all these females coming out over the past years with crazy looks, self empowerment anthems and using controversy as a way to tackle social issues and at the same time be commercially successful... That's "doing" a Madonna. Only artists who truly understand the level of influence and guts Madonna and Michael had, who recognise it and see what an impact it has had on popculture in 2014/15, are the ones that can take it and evolve with it. And I can only think of one example and that's Beyonce. Look at Beyonce and where she is today. She made herself undeniable. Wether you like her or not, it doesn't matter because you can't take away what she has done. You witnessed it. You see it. It's there. You can't argue about Beyonce's status. She is a living legend, like it or not. And where do you think she got that from? She studied Madonna and her blueprint for females in popular music, took it, learned from it and evolved it. She got further with it. And if you don't believe me, watch her say it. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x1KOSwReF2E 3:10 That's why Madonna is on top. She hasn't self destructed like the rest of them. That's why she's on top over Gaga and the rest. That's why she is still alive and Whitney and Michael are dead. Madonna is in control and doesn't let anyone take advantage of her. Troy Carter and Akon anyone? Hello G.U.Y.? That's why Gaga's career is in the pits and places like GagaDaily are flooded with people like you. If Gaga was top as she was in 2010, we wouldn't be having this convo. But she let it get to her, and now pop music is "manufactured" when talking on the view. Remember "pop music will never be low brow"? It's Gaga's quote but it's Madonna who is living it out, 30 years down the line. Gaga needs to stop the self destructive pattern that she brought on herself and needs to rethink her career because MDNA and all other Madonna albums can flop all they want to. Madonna's primarily focused on touring, because the record industry has changed. Madonna inked a LiveNation deal in 2007, she saw all of this coming. She doesn't have record deal with Interscope, she has a distribution deal. Madonna is on a level of her own. Don't even try and come for that one. That's why basic b---hes in the industry are overtaking Gaga. Because they study the blueprint Madonna created, instead of trying to say "they don't care anymore" when proven wrong. Open your eyes. jesus this was a bit ott i was actually joking re instagram but considering you chose the worst look gaga has ever had when she was a burnt orange in yr avi i guess this isn't the best judgment, and fyi i am a huge madonna fan and have been since i was about 6 years old, own every record and bside she has ever put out and VHS tapes from her video releases - bet you didn't know she was in a rock band before she was pop did you, i'm just saying her time is done that's all the magic died artistically after ray of light and what a magical album that was!, thank's for the information on her song titles , don't even bring MJ into this i have seen him live before ;). Gaga is just starting out and can't even be compared except her tours were much longer than madonnas at the start and she has done so much in her short time anyway moving along, can someone link me to the two steps song? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
swakby 4,100 Posted December 19, 2014 Share Posted December 19, 2014 That was when Gaga was planned to appear on stage at the MDNA tour... Meanwhile months later Gaga herself took a jab at the entire nonsense on SNL. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=huwcflMkngw Stop being butthurt over this. Or go seethe with Perez on his Twitter timeline, since he's the only one who still gives a crap about this feud. Gaga's over it, Madonna's over it. Yet here all of you are, once again, at the first mention of both of their names. Express Yourself and Born This Way sound alike, whether you like it or not. Any strong female in pop will be dealing with Madonna "rip-off" commentary because Madonna is a pioneer, she was the first to do it. You can't avoid it, especially if it's another Italian-American bottle blonde who took the world by storm with catchy tunes and a fashion craze while being an outspoken open minded figure and supporting the gay community. The similarities are big, and Madonna is aware of her own "borrowing". Forgot Material Girl? **** Tracy? Erotica? Hollywood? Hung Up? In all of those she's "imitating" icons like Marilyn, John Travolta, Dita Parlow and others. By imitating them or an aspect of their legacy, she's expressing her love for them. She's just stating Gaga must love her too by wearing cone bra's or making a song in the spirit of Express Yourself. And did she lie? Don't forget Gaga thanked Madonna in her liner notes of "The Fame". Gaga's bio in 2008 read that she has "a Madonna-like freshness". She HAS borrowed from Madonna and Madonna HAS borrowed from Marilyn. And both of them borrowed from 988783453 others and their art. It's okay, that's what art and popculture is supposed to do. Take what has been done and then evolve with it. Use the internet to research or go to your local library #Bye and what about the reductive thing? That's good as well? Madonna is an old lady who is desperate for the fame she had 25 years ago.. Remember the Gaga tweet about her concert in Quebec? The one about the madonna fans counting the little monsters? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
darkwolf 590 Posted December 19, 2014 Share Posted December 19, 2014 it's gone jesus its so stupid to even have this discussion gaga is just starting out now what i would reallly like is for someone to answer my question and post a bloody link to this two steps song jesus its so stupid to even have this discussion gaga is just starting out now what i would reallly like is for someone to answer my question and post a bloody link to this two steps song Well for someone who says he is a big fan, the only thing you care about is what she says about gaga? Well rest assured, it's just a mere name drop I gave you examples of singer who are just starting out too. It's a fact that lady gaga is no longer on top, compare that with the same point of Madonna's career and you'll see the difference, hopefully. The Queen getting people pressed since 1982 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
high heeled fem 3 Posted December 19, 2014 Share Posted December 19, 2014 Well for someone who says he is a big fan, the only thing you care about is what she says about gaga? Well rest assured, it's just a mere name drop I gave you examples of singer who are just starting out too. It's a fact that lady gaga is no longer on top, compare that with the same point of Madonna's career and you'll see the difference, hopefully. who's he? i love them both i'm just saying the magic died artistically after ray of light and that's fair to say not everyone can last forever and they shouldn't!, but why don't u help me find this damm video link for two steps i really like one of the new songs that sounds legit that it's from the 90s the chorus... could have been a bedtime stories b side for sure, that got me really excited actually... first time since ray Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HANZ 4,380 Posted December 19, 2014 Share Posted December 19, 2014 Bitch I'm Madonna is my Jam right now My Favs = Lady Gaga, Janet Jackson, Ricky Martin, AKB48 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
darkwolf 590 Posted December 19, 2014 Share Posted December 19, 2014 who's he? i love them both i'm just saying the magic died artistically after ray of light and that's fair to say not everyone can last forever and they shouldn't!, but why don't u help me find this damm video link for two steps i really like one of the new songs that sounds legit that it's from the 90s the chorus... could have been a bedtime stories b side for sure, that got me really excited actually... first time since ray okay, she Well the magic didn't die after ray of light. So many became fans thanks to post ray of light albums The songs is not called two steps, that rumor was fake. It's called Illuminati https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OcNtrtcSnsM Listen to "Make the devil pray" and sing hallelujah :cool: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dangerous Man 9,245 Posted December 19, 2014 Author Share Posted December 19, 2014 This site rn is basically: Iggy vs Azealia Madonna vs Lady Gaga Random rapper vs Everyone Taylor Swift vs Herself :awkney: "A little less conversation and a little more touch my body." Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
high heeled fem 3 Posted December 19, 2014 Share Posted December 19, 2014 okay, she Well the magic didn't die after ray of light. So many became fans thanks to post ray of light albums The songs is not called two steps, that rumor was fake. It's called Illuminati https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OcNtrtcSnsM Listen to "Make the devil pray" and sing hallelujah :cool: dammit :( i heard that song.. it's not ripping gaga off at all, yes i'm aware of that they are very young new fans but they wouldn't call her new stuff the height and best of her career there is another song let me find the song im talking about it transports u back in time Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Psychedelic 1,098 Posted December 19, 2014 Share Posted December 19, 2014 it's gone Sorry, you took to long... someone has posted a new link, hurry before it's removed too :sleigh: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
iloveit123 130 Posted December 19, 2014 Share Posted December 19, 2014 Songs I absolutely love: Rebel Heart Unapologetic Bitch Wash All Over Me Messiah Revolution Make The Devil Pray Illuminati Bitch I'm Madonna Living For Love isn't doing much for me rn, but I have this feeling I'm gonna love the final version. Heartbreak City is a beautiful song, but somehow I don't want to listen to it that often. Same goes for Joan of Arc and Borrowed Time. Yeah, I agree. "Living For Love" will need a MAJOR overhaul if she wants it to be the first single. I am sorry, it is going to get sh*t on for having such similarities to "Hideaway" (like seriously, the basslines and voices over the dance part are WAY too similar) and I don't know, I just think there is something poopy about it, lol. I love "Borrowed Time" as is TBH... it would only be an album track anyway if it even makes the cut (I hope it does). I am finally loving a lot of the demos (not all, but a lot of them), but a part of Madonna's problem lately is though there are good songs on her albums (yes, even 'MDNA'), it's hard to pick a track to be the lead single that really sells the record. Though most of the demos are good, there is either swearing in them which doesn't always lend to a choice for a single, or the title or lyrics are odd/controversial even if the music, hook and melody are good. For example, though "Unapologetic Bitch" is good, it would be censored on radio, hurting the single's chances at success. So yeah, I don't know... i just hope LFL gets a major re-work if it is to be the lead single. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
darkwolf 590 Posted December 19, 2014 Share Posted December 19, 2014 Yeah, I agree. "Living For Love" will need a MAJOR overhaul if she wants it to be the first single. I am sorry, it is going to get sh*t on for having such similarities to "Hideaway" (like seriously, the basslines and voices over the dance part are WAY too similar) and I don't know, I just think there is something poopy about it, lol. I love "Borrowed Time" as is TBH... it would only be an album track anyway if it even makes the cut (I hope it does). I am finally loving a lot of the demos (not all, but a lot of them), but a part of Madonna's problem lately is though there are good songs on her albums (yes, even 'MDNA'), it's hard to pick a track to be the lead single that really sells the record. Though most of the demos are good, there is either swearing in them which doesn't always lend to a choice for a single, or the title or lyrics are odd/controversial even if the music, hook and melody are good. For example, though "Unapologetic Bitch" is good, it would be censored on radio, hurting the single's chances at success. So yeah, I don't know... i just hope LFL gets a major re-work if it is to be the lead single. I completely agree with you on this. Heartbreak city has big potential for example, but I doubt they're gonna release it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
iloveit123 130 Posted December 19, 2014 Share Posted December 19, 2014 I completely agree with you on this. Heartbreak city has big potential for example, but I doubt they're gonna release it. Yeah, I think "Heartbreak City" is such a cool track, and the backup vocals on this one are very different for Madonna (not to mention everythng else about it). It could really showcase a more mature side of Madonna all over again, but you are right, it is extremely doubtful it would be considered for a single, though both of us see the potential. And see a lot of people mentioning this particular track on multiple sites. We'll see how it all goes I guess. :-) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donatello 112 Posted December 20, 2014 Share Posted December 20, 2014 Currently addicted to Illuminati. The second half needs work before it has any chart potential. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gagabro 267 Posted December 20, 2014 Share Posted December 20, 2014 Are these still online somewhere to stream? (not looking to download) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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