SKANK 14,288 Posted December 3, 2014 Share Posted December 3, 2014 There is an argument to be made about whether the proper amount of force was used in the Michael Brown case, but this is undeniably ****ed up. Bring on the riots. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
No Angel 128 Posted December 4, 2014 Share Posted December 4, 2014 No matter what your stance is on this (or even Ferguson), you must admit that it's telling that these crimes being done aren't even important enough to go to trial. What that man did to Garner was AWFUL and it's not even important enough to take to a trial? Even the guy taping the killing was indicted for gun charges. Jesus Christ. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supersonic 49,376 Posted December 4, 2014 Share Posted December 4, 2014 This is outrageous. Anybody pretending like white cops killing black people and not getting indictment should just choke on their own their own sh*t. That cop as well. F*cking scum Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MahoganySnitch 67 Posted December 4, 2014 Share Posted December 4, 2014 Absolute bull****. It was on damn video, and it was deemed unworthy of going to trial? "But it's not about race!!!!111" lol right. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
craig 680 Posted December 4, 2014 Share Posted December 4, 2014 Absolute bull****. It was on damn video, and it was deemed unworthy of going to trial? "But it's not about race!!!!111" lol right. It could be about bullying poorer lower class people (classism), or being overly aggressive with non-violent offenders. This is much more what I worry about than Ferguson. Police using excessive force with non-violent offenders or anyone who gives them lip. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeffSwift 314 Posted December 4, 2014 Share Posted December 4, 2014 This is utterly disgusting. In my opinion the Ferguson case was very hard to decide. With the recanting of witnesses stories and it constantly changing. My personal opinion on that, is that although Daren Wilson could have handled the situation better, Mike Brown was not innocent. In this case, it is clear issue of police brutality. How this guy was not indicted and the entire precent sued is deplorable. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Princess Die 1,864 Posted December 4, 2014 Share Posted December 4, 2014 I wish death on the officer. I'm sorry. Nod if you wanna make love with the enemy. ❤ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sebastien 16 Posted December 4, 2014 Share Posted December 4, 2014 If I were you I would protest tbh. I hope this case blows up like Ferguson. Why? The Ferguson case led to so much destruction and chaos. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morphine Prince 109,656 Posted December 4, 2014 Share Posted December 4, 2014 Why? The Ferguson case led to so much destruction and chaos. Because media exposure is the only way people will wake up and recognize the injustice. The Ferguson case lead to destruction and chaos because a couple of idiots took advantage of the situation. That won't always be the case. Plus, people in NYC are peacefully protesting at this very moment. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gagaloo911 12,959 Posted December 4, 2014 Share Posted December 4, 2014 Seriously f*ck this country I'm so done with the blatant racism and prejudice and everyone trying to pretend it doesn't exist. And I'm white and can see it Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MahoganySnitch 67 Posted December 4, 2014 Share Posted December 4, 2014 Because media exposure is the only way people will wake up and recognize the injustice. The Ferguson case lead to destruction and chaos because a couple of idiots took advantage of the situation. That won't always be the case. Plus, people in NYC are peacefully protesting at this very moment. Morph, I've wondered what you think about destruction/chaos being this exposure, or a ways to fight injustice. Take the Stonewall Riots or the Boston Tea Party. In both, the oppressed group reacted to an oppressor with destruction/chaos. And ever since grade school we're taught to see the tea dumping as a heroic act, by destroying English property in response to numerous tax laws being written to usurp more from the colony. (the fact that the dumpers dressed up as American Natives is just ) And the Stonewall Riots saw LGBT folk violently react to a police raid and is seen as a key moment in the gay rights moment. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morphine Prince 109,656 Posted December 4, 2014 Share Posted December 4, 2014 Morph, I've wondered what you think about destruction/chaos being this exposure, or a ways to fight injustice. Take the Stonewall Riots or the Boston Tea Party. In both, the oppressed group reacted to an oppressor with destruction/chaos. And ever since grade school we're taught to see the tea dumping as a heroic act, by destroying English property in response to numerous tax laws being written to usurp more from the colony. (the fact that the dumpers dressed up as American Natives is just ) And the Stonewall Riots saw LGBT folk violently react to a police raid and is seen as a key moment in the gay rights moment. Hmm... when the destruction IS the exposure, I'd say the cause may lose credibility among many. For example, Ferguson was a big story even before the destruction, but the police brutality back in August made it bigger, and then last week it made it even bigger, BUT I've seen many people say "See? These PROTESTERS are thugs and idiots!" although there is a clear distinction between the protesters and the rioters. In the two cases you provided, I believe at the time (I may be wrong), many didn't see it as heroic. They were seen as criminals. It's jut now that we historically a--lyze it that we ca appreciate the violence. Although in Ferguson, imo, there is not justification in destroying people's businesses and basically their entire lives. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MahoganySnitch 67 Posted December 4, 2014 Share Posted December 4, 2014 Hmm... when the destruction IS the exposure, I'd say the cause may lose credibility among many. For example, Ferguson was a big story even before the destruction, but the police brutality back in August made it bigger, and then last week it made it even bigger, BUT I've seen many people say "See? These PROTESTERS are thugs and idiots!" although there is a clear distinction between the protesters and the rioters. In the two cases you provided, I believe at the time (I may be wrong), many didn't see it as heroic. They were seen as criminals. It's jut now that we historically a--lyze it that we ca appreciate the violence. Although in Ferguson, imo, there is not justification in destroying people's businesses and basically their entire lives. Oh, at the time there must have been sharp divides: like American colonists applauding the brazen move while Britain was angry that Americans destroyed property. But it's interesting how the narrative does change over time, or "appreciate the violence" as you put it. How did we come to appreciate such violence? Looting for the sake of it and stuff like that is slimy and blegh in general, but I am curious to see how this point in time is historically a--lyzed 50, 100 years from now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morphine Prince 109,656 Posted December 4, 2014 Share Posted December 4, 2014 Oh, at the time there must have been sharp divides: like American colonists applauding the brazen move while Britain was angry that Americans destroyed property. But it's interesting how the narrative does change over time, or "appreciate the violence" as you put it. How did we come to appreciate such violence? Looting for the sake of it and stuff like that is slimy and blegh in general, but I am curious to see how this point in time is historically a--lyzed 50, 100 years from now. Yeah, it will be interesting. If real change occurs because of these cases then I'm assuming they'll make it to the history books. Like how the Civil Rights movement might have been seen as something criminal to the white Southerners. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
craig 680 Posted December 4, 2014 Share Posted December 4, 2014 And the Stonewall Riots saw LGBT folk violently react to a police raid and is seen as a key moment in the gay rights moment. Stonewall galvanized a non-violent movement. GLBT are too much of a minority to win anything by violence. If that was a repeated tactic, it would just make everyone else hate gays more. Blacks need to make the issue about police brutality, not race where it is 13% vs 87%. Rioting only draws attention to blacks being violent ... which is one reason why policing has got over-aggressive. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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