Why are fans here so concerned about Gaga's success?

[Bt1 5,213]

Again, we are comparing the ARTrave to her past success and tours that happen to be two of the highest grossing concert tours of all time.

I mean does it really look like Gaga is struggling right now? She has just had 3 #1 albums in a row...

She might not be at the level of success she had in the past, but that in no way means she isn't successful, I really doubt that she is in the sort of predicament where she won't be able to tour and release albums for much longer.

It really baffles me how we are talking about one of the most successful contemporary musicians of our time as if she is on the verge of bankruptcy and will be unable to make music or perform to her fans again.

ARTPOP was great! Her television performances were amazing, the album was amazing and I got to see my favourite artist live in concert! Isn't that fantastic? Enjoy the ride we are currently on! Be appreciative of what we have and don't let it pass you by because of a constant desire for her to be at an even greater level of success. 

And what we are supposed to do? Thats the way everybody does.

[Bebe 17,093]

And what we are supposed to do? Thats the way everybody does.

Well I would suggest that there isn't really any need to compare, you can still see her live right? She is still making enough money to tour the world... What does it matter if it's a little smaller in attendance if she is still making enough money to tour so her fans can see her and when she is happy?

 

Fans still have the opportunity to see her and Gaga is happy touring the world and performing! I see no problem.

[MonsterOfSpain 8,318]

I agree with the OP, right now we shouldn't worry about her career at all.

[Bt1 5,213]

No i'm not, but it seems like there are a lot of artists less successful that are still able to tour...

If she has to downgrade her tours at some point and play at smaller venues, then it doesn't really matter too much right? You could still go and see her, you could still listen to her music, you could still even see her perform on T.V!

It's weird how this fanbase praises the The Fame Ball tour and The Monster Ball so much, when she had some of her lowest production costs and was playing in theaters and then freak out over the idea that she won't be able to have the massive productions of other tours.

You enjoyed The Fame Ball... You enjoyed The Monster Ball. What is the problem????

TFB was at her beggining. TMB is praised, but I think for the second version. Yes, there are artists who tour even if they arent succesfull as Gaga, but not at this level.

 

I think some of you are really in denial. She clearly can do a lot of things still. I dont think that her career is really in such a bad place. Its ok. But there were clearly some problems and I think she her label her team knows that and thats fine for me. I dont care about some delusional fans.

Well I would suggest that there isn't really any need to compare, you can still see her live right? She is still making enough money to tour the world... What does it matter if it's a little smaller in attendance if she is still making enough money to tour so her fans can see her and when she is happy?

 

Fans still have the opportunity to see her and Gaga is happy touring the world and performing! I see no problem.

Less fans were able to see it this time. Less fans or non fans wanted to see it this time.

[Sara 1,128]

And what we are supposed to do? Thats the way everybody does.

Because if there is one thing we've learned it's that we should be like everyone else.

[XoXoJoanneGaga 629]

Again, we are comparing the ARTrave to her past success and tours that happen to be two of the highest grossing concert tours of all time.

I mean does it really look like Gaga is struggling right now? She has just had 3 #1 albums in a row...

She might not be at the level of success she had in the past, but that in no way means she isn't successful, I really doubt that she is in the sort of predicament where she won't be able to tour and release albums for much longer.

It really baffles me how we are talking about one of the most successful contemporary musicians of our time as if she is on the verge of bankruptcy and will be unable to make music or perform to her fans again.

Gaga can make music and perform for her fans for the rest of her life, but will those fans be filling arenas or theatres? She was the biggest pop star in the world just three years ago, so the decline has been quite rapid so far, and if it continues at the same rate then she won't be doing worlwide arena tours in 5 years. Gaga absolutely has the talent and vision deserving of a legend, and just a couple of years ago it was mostly agreed upon that she would become one. She deserves to be playing arenas or even stadiums when she's in her 50s, like Madonna and Bruce Springsteen do today. But at the rate she's going she might be doing off-Broadway shows like Cindy Lauper instead.

 

Some fans may not care about their favorite artists legacy but it does matter in the grand scheme of pop culture. Gaga deserves to be remembered and recognized. I'm not saying it won't happen, but she has to really step it up.

[Fiona Apple 13,006]

Lol. Only 400k were sold at that price in US. Others dont agree about point 2.

The best thing is to compare yourself to you. It was a huge decline between the 2 eras and all fans I think were able to feel it in one way or another.

Yes everybody felt that because of the katycats' and madonna's fans' press

[Sara 1,128]

ARTPOP still did better than most other albums released that year. And just to get an album released on a real label is a very select group of all the artists/bands that exist.

Gaga's "flop" is still in the best of the best.

[Bt1 5,213]

Yes everybody felt that because of the katycats' and madonna's fans' press

Ok. I dont believe you if you say that you are ok with an 2 videos era.

[Whispering 18,865]

Lol. Only 400k were sold at that price in US. Others dont agree about point 2.

The best thing is to compare yourself to you. It was a huge decline between the 2 eras and all fans I think were able to feel it in one way or another.

 

Not really. If Adele "only" sells 10 million worldwide with this upcoming album, it won't make her a flop. It will mean that she had a highly unusual moment in time (much like the TFM days) and now she is coming back down to a more normal level. Same thing happened with MJ, Madonna, etc. No one stays on top forever.

[Whispering 18,865]

THAT is a good point, and it explains a lot. But I figured fans like that could just jump to whoever is hot next on the "hot" rotation of fame.

The next day another star came, and so it continued always the same, charts, tours, tabloids, decay, always the same.

 

You would think, wouldn't you? Instead, they are upset and bitter because some Pop star, they will never know personally in any way, isn't doing what they want her to do or selling as much as they want her to sell.  Even though Gaga is a multi-millionaire who is buying multiple houses and is currently doing albums and music she wants to do, they are "concerned about her career"...so they spend their days bashing her decisions and music on a fanboard. The whole scenario is ridiculous, when you really think about it!

[SissyFromSpace 20,884]

THAT is a good point, and it explains a lot. But I figured fans like that could just jump to whoever is hot next on the "hot" rotation of fame.

The next day another star came, and so it continued always the same, charts, tours, tabloids, decay, always the same.

I'm just talking about the losers who ditched Gaga because of the ARTPOP "underperformance" for her standards.

 

 

i love Gaga being successful. Makes her happy too.

[Whispering 18,865]

 Yes, she is wealthy and she can make music, but if the tendencies continue this way, not for a long time at this level. At one point money doesnt matter. You create your stage, but what happens if at every date shows up the attendance from Lisbon?

 

Her next era must be very strong.

 

Then...she moves to a mix of theatres and arenas, instead of all arenas. What's the big deal?  She will still be bringing her music to the fans and she will still be making money and happy with what she is doing. Why would that be anything to be upset about?

 

Those who stan success can gravitate to the next "it girl", but they will have to continue to do that throughout their lives, because the it girl or group keeps changing! History has proven that every artist or group will have ups and downs, if they stay in the game long enough. Luckily, with Gaga, she isn't confined to waiting on what the next songwriting team comes up with for her livelihood. She has options and talent in multiple areas, some of which is yet to be explored.

 

Gaga is successful, she will continue to be successful in the future in multiple ways. There is no reason for concern or worry.

[Fiona Apple 13,006]

Ok. I dont believe you if you say that you are ok with an 2 videos era.

Obviously no lol..But that has nothing to do with commercial success 

[Bebe 17,093]

Gaga can make music and perform for her fans for the rest of her life, but will those fans be filling arenas or theatres? She was the biggest pop star in the world just three years ago, so the decline has been quite rapid so far, and if it continues at the same rate then she won't be doing worlwide arena tours in 5 years. Gaga absolutely has the talent and vision deserving of a legend, and just a couple of years ago it was mostly agreed upon that she would become one. She deserves to be playing arenas or even stadiums when she's in her 50s, like Madonna and Bruce Springsteen do today. But at the rate she's going she might be doing off-Broadway shows like Cindy Lauper instead.

 

Some fans may not care about their favorite artists legacy but it does matter in the grand scheme of pop culture. Gaga deserves to be remembered and recognized. I'm not saying it won't happen, but she has to really step it up.

This is to do with demand, if there is a demand for her enough that she can perform an arena date then she will. If there isn't enough in the future she could do theaters... If she isn't selling out theaters then I'm sure that her fans that wanted to see her will be there haha.

Your predictions are way off. ARTrave was a very successful tour, it wasn't at the level of The Monster Ball or BTWB but there were less dates. She still has the capacity to do large scale World Wide tours. You would be crazy to believe otherwise.

I don't think her career is in danger of completely dying out in 5 years haha.

Even if it was, enjoy the ride we are currently on. Who knows what could happen in the future, it's harder to enjoy her VMA performance when you are more concerned about how Miley Cyrus got more attention and it is harder to enjoy ARTrave when you are comparing it to other tours.

If you think the artist who filmed a video at Hearst Castle, had work presented in The Louvre, was named an icon by Carine Roitfeld and shot an entire campaign for Versace in her "flop era" is going to completely fade in 5 years, to the point where she won't be able to put out records or tour then you are delusional.

 

TFB was at her beggining. TMB is praised, but I think for the second version. Yes, there are artists who tour even if they arent succesfull as Gaga, but not at this level.

 

I think some of you are really in denial. She clearly can do a lot of things still. I dont think that her career is really in such a bad place. Its ok. But there were clearly some problems and I think she her label her team knows that and thats fine for me. I dont care about some delusional fans.

Less fans were able to see it this time. Less fans or non fans wanted to see it this time.

See above, I mean who cares if TFB was in the beginning? It shows that she can still put on an incredible show on a lower production scale. If Gaga was touring I would see her in a production as good as TBTWB or TFB.

I get to see my favourite artist live! Brilliant! It's a heck of a show too!

Less fans, so what? Once again, if her career completely declined to the point where she had to perform in theaters (unlikely), why would it matter if she is still releasing good music, can fund incredible videos, has television spots to perform and when you can see her live yourself?

Is there any artist you like other than Gaga? I mean there are artists I know who play theaters or small arenas where I live. It's still exciting to see them live and I buy their records because they are awesome. It doesn't bother me that they are not grossing $227.4 million on their tour... I get to see them live and I get awesome music from them.

Being a fan isn't as hard as you are making it, enjoy the ride and appreciate the things we have now.