LISTEN: Lady Gaga on Howard Stern (talks about music, rape, & more)

[codymonster 8,595]

I'm not dragging her or anything I'm just saying how I'd wish she didn't take breaks so much.

But maybe I'll Stan for someone else until gaga comes back. hopefully she'll be back

That's what happens when you stan for someone who writes and creates their own music That's why most the other pop girls release pop albums so quick. Since all they do is put vocals on already made songs.

[heavyMetalGAGA 65]

I'm not perpetuating rape culture or blaming a victim by suggesting that I am skeptical about the seriousness of her alleged abuse. I am as skeptical about her account of s-xual abuse as I am skeptical about other things she has said in the press. You can't be a long time Gaga fan and not see a pattern of overly embellished stories.

 

In this interview Gaga reflects on how weird it was that she used to speak with an accent during interviews. She said it was linked to depression and the isolation of being a public figure. Looking back on it she thinks "why the **** was I talking like that?" Then the same day in a different interview on Colbert, she put on a phony voice and spoke to Tony like she just hopped out of a ****ing Cecil B. Demile film. 

 

She is a performer, even during interviews she has a narrative that she wants the audience to receive. 

 

I don't doubt that she faced s-xual harassment or intimidation by people in the music business, but I do doubt that she was raped. I don't doubt that she was bullied in school, but I do doubt she was as brutally bullied in school as she claimed to be during the "I Was Stuffed In A Trash Can" Press Tour. I don't doubt that she gets high and parties, but I do doubt her issues with d--gs and alcohol are as serious as she would like the public to believe.

 

 

 

If you take her version of events as 100% true then you should find it repugnant that Gaga would have a man publicly accused of the very same type of s-xual misconduct she fell victim too direct one of her music videos. A video in which she duets with a man who has urinated on and had s-x with underage girls. 

 

You are perpetuating rape culture, though. The National Center for the Prosecution of Violence Against Women estimates only two to eight percent of rape accusations are false, yet a disproportionate amount of cases, year after year, are met with police suspicion. It is because thoughts like yours that make people afraid to come out and speak about their story. It is not your place or my place, or anybody's place to believe if her story is actually true. If a person says they were raped, it is not up to you to belittle them whether you 'believe' it happened or not.

 

The brain’s prefrontal cortex  key to decision-making and memory  often becomes impaired during acts of rape. The amygdala, known to encode emotional experiences, begins to dominate, triggering the release of stress hormones. So of course Gaga's stories may seem false or that she "exaggerated" what happened.

 

I have been a Gaga fan for several years now, of course I know that she plays up to her audience depending on the interview and/or performance. But I also know that this is a whole lot different than the "trash can" story. You're aware that she loved using satire in the beginning of her career to mock plastic pop stars. This could be something similar. She mentioned or favorited something on her Twitter a long time ago that the video was to mock how the industry is so quick to work with "creepy" men. If that's how she felt she needed to tell her story, then I'm not going to hold it against her. Of course I hate what Kelly and Richardson have done, but that is her own story. That does not lead me to belittle her own abuse case, because quite frankly, we need more people like her exposing the industry.

[mr.peter 3,555]

I'm not perpetuating rape culture or blaming a victim by suggesting that I am skeptical about the seriousness of her alleged abuse. I am as skeptical about her account of s-xual abuse as I am skeptical about other things she has said in the press. You can't be a long time Gaga fan and not see a pattern of overly embellished stories.

 

In this interview Gaga reflects on how weird it was that she used to speak with an accent during interviews. She said it was linked to depression and the isolation of being a public figure. Looking back on it she thinks "why the **** was I talking like that?" Then the same day in a different interview on Colbert, she put on a phony voice and spoke to Tony like she just hopped out of a ****ing Cecil B. Demile film. 

 

She is a performer, even during interviews she has a narrative that she wants the audience to receive. 

 

I don't doubt that she faced s-xual harassment or intimidation by people in the music business, but I do doubt that she was raped. I don't doubt that she was bullied in school, but I do doubt she was as brutally bullied in school as she claimed to be during the "I Was Stuffed In A Trash Can" Press Tour. I don't doubt that she gets high and parties, but I do doubt her issues with d--gs and alcohol are as serious as she would like the public to believe.

 

 

 

If you take her version of events as 100% true then you should find it repugnant that Gaga would have a man publicly accused of the very same type of s-xual misconduct she fell victim too direct one of her music videos. A video in which she duets with a man who has urinated on and had s-x with underage girls. 

 

 

I think the same way as you. I love her to death, but yeah if you really followed gaga from the start would know she can be full of ****... But I kinda of like that about her. And I always tie it back to what she said at the very beginning... "Some people say Lady Gaga is a lie, and you know what they are absolutely right" 

[Brainiac 10,940]

I'm really getting pissed off right now reading how many people in this thread think that she is lying or exaggerating about her rape. How ****ing dare you guys. Really. Shame on you.

[maxthewonderdog 300]

Not cool to blame the victim.

[Gagaloo911 12,959]

so this b---h disappears for 2 years, releases ARTPOP, flops, releases c2c and goes back home for another 2years.

wthhhhh

im srsly starting to doubt her career

just cause u've got x platinum singles xx million sales or whatever doesn't mean you'll always be on top. and if she's thinking ''music not the bling'' that's not what her producers think. disappointed

bye then, you can leave now

 

 

And she also sounds like she does not like competition from artists who are not as talented as she is.

And why shouldn't she? There should be no competition with people who don't have the talent to match her. Those who do have the talent is another story.

[SpaceAce 1,058]

I'm not perpetuating rape culture or blaming a victim by suggesting that I am skeptical about the seriousness of her alleged abuse. I am as skeptical about her account of s-xual abuse as I am skeptical about other things she has said in the press. You can't be a long time Gaga fan and not see a pattern of overly embellished stories.

 

In this interview Gaga reflects on how weird it was that she used to speak with an accent during interviews. She said it was linked to depression and the isolation of being a public figure. Looking back on it she thinks "why the **** was I talking like that?" Then the same day in a different interview on Colbert, she put on a phony voice and spoke to Tony like she just hopped out of a ****ing Cecil B. Demile film. 

 

She is a performer, even during interviews she has a narrative that she wants the audience to receive. 

 

I don't doubt that she faced s-xual harassment or intimidation by people in the music business, but I do doubt that she was raped. I don't doubt that she was bullied in school, but I do doubt she was as brutally bullied in school as she claimed to be during the "I Was Stuffed In A Trash Can" Press Tour. I don't doubt that she gets high and parties, but I do doubt her issues with d--gs and alcohol are as serious as she would like the public to believe.

 

 

 

If you take her version of events as 100% true then you should find it repugnant that Gaga would have a man publicly accused of the very same type of s-xual misconduct she fell victim too direct one of her music videos. A video in which she duets with a man who has urinated on and had s-x with underage girls. 

 

Yeah, Gaga comes off as fake when she has that accent - but as a fan maybe you should sit down a little and consider why it happens. With Howard Stern, she's on her own, she's comfortable and she can lay back and talk about whatever Howard has lined up for her. But then she has to go on the COLBERT REPORT and talk with Tony about her new album in 3 minutes and she's on a totally different platform for the first time in her career. Stephen Colbert's humour can be intimidating for some because it's erratic and very sarcastic and not to mention she has to balance herself out with Tony. Could you maybe consider that she was nervous? That she cant control how her voice sounds when she's stressed or under pressure?

 

You don't doubt that she faced s-xual harassment in the music business - but you doubt that she was raped? Because these two things don't go hand in hand? Or is it because unreported rapes is not that big of a thing?

 

.... I hope you realize those last two questions are rhetorical and sarcastic. Saying you doubt she was raped because she embelleshes her stories is kind of funny, considering you really don't know how embelleshed or understated anything she says is. You really don't know anything about her life besides what she decides to share with you, but you'll accept somethings as facts and not others because what... it's just too hard for you to believe that she struggles with all of these things? Ridiculous. Try not to forget that Howard was the one who pressed on the subject and that she even had difficulty saying the words, despite confirming the incident every other way.

 

Please tell me what you think the difference is between being bullied and being "brutally" bullied and how you go about distinguishing them. Because as far as I know, the the severity of psychological affects of any form of bullying varies from person to person. You don't know what else happened to her, you sure as hell don't have any evidence that her "garbage can" story isn't true, but you've decided to put on this "impartial / reasonable stan" hat while actually being totally and completely the opposite. She has given no reason for you to doubt how badly she was bullied as a child and you have no idea how hard or easy she could have taken it.

 

Maybe consider that the "trash can press tour" was a way for her to talk about her pain in her childhood and connect and share with her fans, like they always try to do with her. It may have felt like a press tour to you, but it's not Gaga's decision what the media picks up and takes off with. Again, you're looking at this the wrong way.

 

I know you don't believe her for some odd reason but having to deal with being bulllied as a kid, being s-xually abused as a 19 year old, and very visibly struggling with her weight (telephone music video, no?), are all things that could be fueling her dependecny on d--gs and alcohol. Also, she's not the only one to confirm she has a problem - Elton John occasionaly slips up and tells everyone that's he's very worried about her - or maybe he tells the media on purpose as a way to reach her on a different level. Who knows? I don't. And you definitely only know just as much as I do. So why is it that you feel comfortable calling her a liar?

 

 

Believe me, I am just as dissapointed and disgusted by her relationship with R. Kelly - I've said so multiple times on this forum in various posts and my own thread (which unfortunately didn't go over well). But I'm not about to discount her abuse or various other things because she has shown one lapse in judgment, albeit a major one.

 

R. Kelly has been able to keep his crimes underwrap for many years now by paying off the victims. The new allegations against him came out far after Gaga had already began a friendship with him. Do you think being in the poor mental state that she was at the time made it easy for her to see what was going on? I guess she still doesn't know and is keeping herself ignorant for her own benefit. It's quite an unfortunate situation but in no way should it discredit the things she's been brave enough to share with the entire world for the benefit of her fans - despit the fact that most of society will just judge her and call her a liar.

[RBNLM 1,640]

It is lovely to see how you guys are hooked by her provocations every single time...

[Brainiac 10,940]

Yeah, Gaga comes off as fake when she has that accent - but as a fan maybe you should sit down a little and consider why it happens. With Howard Stern, she's on her own, she's comfortable and she can lay back and talk about whatever Howard has lined up for her. But then she has to go on the COLBERT REPORT and talk with Tony about her new album in 3 minutes and she's on a totally different platform for the first time in her career. Stephen Colbert's humour can be intimidating for some because it's erratic and very sarcastic and not to mention she has to balance herself out with Tony. Could you maybe consider that she was nervous? That she cant control how her voice sounds when she's stressed or under pressure?

 

You don't doubt that she faced s-xual harassment in the music business - but you doubt that she was raped? Because these two things don't go hand in hand? Or is it because unreported rapes is not that big of a thing?

 

.... I hope you realize those last two questions are rhetorical and sarcastic. Saying you doubt she was raped because she embelleshes her stories is kind of funny, considering you really don't know how embelleshed or understated anything she says is. You really don't know anything about her life besides what she decides to share with you, but you'll accept somethings as facts and not others because what... it's just too hard for you to believe that she struggles with all of these things? Ridiculous. Try not to forget that Howard was the one who pressed on the subject and that she even had difficulty saying the words, despite confirming the incident every other way.

 

Please tell me what you think the difference is between being bullied and being "brutally" bullied and how you go about distinguishing them. Because as far as I know, the the severity of psychological affects of any form of bullying varies from person to person. You don't know what else happened to her, you sure as hell don't have any evidence that her "garbage can" story isn't true, but you've decided to put on this "impartial / reasonable stan" hat while actually being totally and completely the opposite. She has given no reason for you to doubt how badly she was bullied as a child and you have no idea how hard or easy she could have taken it.

 

Maybe consider that the "trash can press tour" was a way for her to talk about her pain in her childhood and connect and share with her fans, like they always try to do with her. It may have felt like a press tour to you, but it's not Gaga's decision what the media picks up and takes off with. Again, you're looking at this the wrong way.

 

I know you don't believe her for some odd reason but having to deal with being bulllied as a kid, being s-xually abused as a 19 year old, and very visibly struggling with her weight (telephone music video, no?), are all things that could be fueling her dependecny on d--gs and alcohol. Also, she's not the only one to confirm she has a problem - Elton John occasionaly slips up and tells everyone that's he's very worried about her - or maybe he tells the media on purpose as a way to reach her on a different level. Who knows? I don't. And you definitely only know just as much as I do. So why is it that you feel comfortable calling her a liar?

 

 

Believe me, I am just as dissapointed and disgusted by her relationship with R. Kelly - I've said so multiple times on this forum in various posts and my own thread (which unfortunately didn't go over well). But I'm not about to discount her abuse or various other things because she has shown one lapse in judgment, albeit a major one.

 

R. Kelly has been able to keep his crimes underwrap for many years now by paying off the victims. The new allegations against him came out far after Gaga had already began a friendship with him. Do you think being in the poor mental state that she was at the time made it easy for her to see what was going on? I guess she still doesn't know and is keeping herself ignorant for her own benefit. It's quite an unfortunate situation but in no way should it discredit the things she's been brave enough to share with the entire world for the benefit of her fans - despit the fact that most of society will just judge her and call her a liar.

 

:applause: THANK YOU. You literally said EVERYTHING that I was thinking while reading these disgusting comments calling her a liar.

[SpaceAce 1,058]

I'm not dragging her or anything I'm just saying how I'd wish she didn't take breaks so much.

But maybe I'll Stan for someone else until gaga comes back. hopefully she'll be back

 

For the past 5 years, she has done on average 1 show every 4 days. Take that into consideration with rehearsals, recording, music video and photo shoots, public appearances, basically trying to have a life w/ her family and you've got a girl who really hasn't had any breaks for a long time. She's well over due for a year or two off.

[Doot 2]

Im amazed that you are all freaking out about the 2016 thing.

 

She never said she was taking a media black out. She said she isnt releasing new music until 2016. One thing we know with Gaga, is time frames are never secure, so we may get something sooner. 

 

Not to mention the fact that she will still be on tour with Tony until the middle of 2015, and then we will probably have a month of simply candids, and then she will start dropping hints and building the hype machine. Relax.

[mic 1,415]

I think she was talking about her 2012 accent

I actually thought about 2013 haha, like during ellen interview she sounded so insecure to me.

[Hexxx 2,244]

That's what happens when you stan for someone who writes and creates their own music That's why most the other pop girls release pop albums so quick. Since all they do is put vocals on already made songs.

not all of them are like that. :crossed:

[giskardsb 12,565]

I understood that one, the wheelchair break. But what's going to happen in 2015 if we're not getting new music by then.

Unlike most pop stars Gaga actually is personally involved on creating her music. That's what she'll be doing. She doesn't just let producers write everything and then pick songs thy she had nothing to do with.

[Whispering 18,865]

not all of them are like that.

 

Many of them are though. Add in the fact that Gaga usually has multiple projects going on and world tours that are long and stretch to areas that most Pop girls rarely go to, and you have an artists who has constantly been working for years. Gaga hasn't taken a real (voluntary) break for herself since she started her career. She is more than due some time off to spend with her family, friends and Taylor!