pachinko 10,376 Posted November 30, 2014 Share Posted November 30, 2014 Let's be honest. ARTPOP album is good. Era sucked though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paper Gangsta 6,693 Posted November 30, 2014 Share Posted November 30, 2014 BTW - flawless. Bad Kids - cute. FOHL - greatest throwback BJAF - amazing instrumental, the only song I don't use on BTW. BTWs good songs are more than the good songs on the other Gaga albums. BTW has more than 10 masterpieces. TFM has only 8. TF has less and ARTPOP has less as well. But that's just my opinion I like many BTW songs but there is only a little ammount of standout tracks for me. I can't even tell my fave from it because all are on same level so it depends on mood. So there is a lot of good songs but not many ones that blow my mind away. And main reason for this is bad production. Also I dont like era overall. Looks were bad and single choices messy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlaeUrAnus 15,955 Posted November 30, 2014 Author Share Posted November 30, 2014 Let's be honest. ARTPOP album is good. Era sucked though. Agreed. In my messy era. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HANZ 4,380 Posted November 30, 2014 Share Posted November 30, 2014 nah no one hates Born this way anymore, actually the world is starting to appreciate it, not only her fanabse ARTPOP on the other hand............. My Favs = Lady Gaga, Janet Jackson, Ricky Martin, AKB48 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noam Zioni 1,196 Posted November 30, 2014 Share Posted November 30, 2014 I don't see any hate for BTW lol, that's the favorite era of most of the monsters tbh Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gov Hooka 8,008 Posted November 30, 2014 Share Posted November 30, 2014 I can't at you saying the vocals were better on TFM Obviously we are talking about something very subjective, but imo looks, performances, vocals, music was faaaaarrr better in the BTW era. **** success. The best thing about BTW is the fact that album highlights aren't even the singles released. That's usually a good indicator for an awesome piece of work. With Born This Way she was able to do a lot more than she could during TF/TFM. She couldn't have released a song and video like You and I where she was a mermaid in nebraska and dressed in drag. She didn't have amazing vocal songs like TEOG. The Born This Way ball was far superior to the Monster Ball. I'm sorry, but it seems to me like most TFM stans are stuck in the fame/success whirlwind of TFM that was a result of her being a breakout star doing something different at the time. I loved being a stan during TFM, and the videos are clearly the best work of hers, but other than that BTW destroys TFM. It is far more diverse and a lot more interesting. BTW was her most genius album yet. It truly was ahead of its time (perhaps not sonically, but I feel thematically, lyrically, and politcally). Furthermore, a lot of the songs I feel would do well on the radio today despite not being well received back then. Thus, when Gaga releases her next solo pop album I rather it tops BTW than TF/TFM. As a fan what I hated about the BTW era wasnt the album (music), outfits, performances, or tour but rather the fact that it was the begining of the end of her amazing management team. Starting with Judas is where her management team started making poor single and promo choices. I still cant get over the fact that Sheiße wasnt the second single...or any single for that matter. I just feel that its been quest for Gaga to get the right management after Judas and after a series of unfortunate events (mainly hip injury, firing troy just before album release and series of d--g addiction/depression episodes and long blackouts) she is trying to figure things out with her management. Hopefully Gaga is in a better place mentally and physically and with Bobby on her management team and promising promo/sales/reception from C2C there may be hope for Gaga to recover yet. Plus I think the GP is truly starting to get sick of KP and acknowledges that Gaga has true talent and isn't a madonna ripoff.... so I feel that all these factors are now starting to play in Gaga's favor. this Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spock 20,290 Posted November 30, 2014 Share Posted November 30, 2014 I liked the era and the music but the over exaggerated preachy-ness totally put me off who will love me when the night is over Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sexxx 5,623 Posted November 30, 2014 Share Posted November 30, 2014 some people didn't like it because it wasn't doing as well as TFM Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHANTEL 2 Posted November 30, 2014 Share Posted November 30, 2014 who even hates on BTW tho, it's flawless when it comes to videos (except for MTN which was a bit messy) the music was amazing and the performances were amazing and the outfits were spectacular I only disliked the Too much preach-iness Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommy Monster 846 Posted November 30, 2014 Share Posted November 30, 2014 Well, I expected much more from BTW musically, the album really dissapointed me, no matter the charts or success, once it´s not good, it´s just not good (okay, it´s good, not a masterpiece, but good is a good word for it) Imagine that this was the reaction of half of the people that bought the first milion copies in the first week, just because they expected the second coming of jesus after TFM... they got dissapointed and there is no wonder that ARTPOP (much better album imo) underperformed Plus, she was everyone, there was a huge amount of promo and GP got sick and bored of her preachiness... This is much why I will always feel bad about that album, the vibe just wasn´t right, it was all messy and just kind of... I don´t know, not Gaga Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MahoganySnitch 67 Posted November 30, 2014 Share Posted November 30, 2014 It was interesting to see casual fans in my family write off Gaga's just-starting BTW era, because she was, according to them, not the "Just Dance" singer anymore. I guess the music and visuals started to be less digestible for the casual fan? She's mostly gone beyond the drunk-girl-in-the-club subject matter and I don't think it's a bad thing. But I also don't mean that the drunk-in-club subject is "bad" either because it can be great music, like "Just Dance", y'know? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
malazam 15,710 Posted November 30, 2014 Share Posted November 30, 2014 I agree with you...there's a lot of hate on BTW era mostly in the tour part :s another shot before we kiss the other side Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bear 7,515 Posted November 30, 2014 Share Posted November 30, 2014 Some monsters tend to hate whatever is happening at the present, and then look back on it fondly as time goes by. BTW was no exception. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sampool 5,560 Posted November 30, 2014 Share Posted November 30, 2014 IT SUCK! DO U KNOW WHAT DOES SUCK MEAN? WELL THAT'S BORN THIS WAY. I ONLY USE ONE HAND TO COUNT THE GOOD SONGS ON THE ALBUM. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethan 2,051 Posted November 30, 2014 Share Posted November 30, 2014 during the btw era everyone loathed it but now everyone likes it. i see the same happening for ARTPOP, despite the controversial management issues. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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