Economy 49,769 Posted November 24, 2014 Share Posted November 24, 2014 youre right about dancing but shes a much much better singer than adele. depends on how u look at it. Gaga has more versatility in her voice but she could never have that much power on key with such a great sound Gagas voice cracks when she really pushes and sometimes not in a good way she can sing mroe styles than Adele... but she isnt as good as Adele is on her style of music with any specific genre No. She has strengths and weaknesses just like every other talented pop star. I would say no mainly because her songwriting in ARTPOP was not impressing me for most of the album and her dancing has gotten progressively worse since early BTW era (pre hip injury, which imo was caused by horrible choreography ) Also her voice has gotten stronger, but her enunciation has really suffered and to me that is part of being talented. The way she treats her work is a bit lackluster. She makes it sound like she was intensely over-worked, but most other pop stars do the same schedule- promo, performances, shoots, videos, etc- If she felt that way she should just make her tours shorter or more manageable like with the aR. She has amazing potential, but she has to let people and professionals help her hone her craft and that is the opposite of the way she's been acting. I think her attitude last winter/spring was like a spoiled brat who thinks they know everything. i agree with everything u said particularly the last part i bolded Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Echo 327 Posted November 24, 2014 Share Posted November 24, 2014 Yes very much so. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tropico 4,145 Posted November 24, 2014 Share Posted November 24, 2014 Yes. ♢ Social Justice Enthusiast ♢ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LilVenusian 579 Posted November 24, 2014 Share Posted November 24, 2014 First of all, Gaga has written more complex songs than the ones you mentioned. And while Adele has one of the best voices, Gaga is able to sing almost every type of genre. Also is not just about having a choreographer, but about being able to actually dance. Plus gaga can direct, play instruments, act, songwrite, she has produced songs, and can be very creative/innovative with her performances and videos. Adele can probably only do half of what Gaga does at most. Adele has done pretty much everything you listed. Shes a multi-instrumentalist (gaga is only a trained pianist), dabbled in production, acclaimed performer, acclaimed songwriter/lyricist (clearly much more than gaga is), her music videos are generally well put together and artful) Once again your judging the scope of talent completely by the standards of gaga's artistry. Just because Adele hasnt sung on a rock/dance record yet doesn't mean shes not capable of it (with her vocal power and control It would probably be a walk in the park) And just because she hasnt bled to death on stage and has choreographed dance routines dosent mean shes any less of talented/memorable/important performer as someone like gaga. And acting/directing? Bye Felicia :madge: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LilVenusian 579 Posted November 24, 2014 Share Posted November 24, 2014 Excuse me but Gaga nd Adele have very different voces so they both do things with their voice that others can't. Also imo Gaga has many songs with such powerfu lyrical content as Adele's and even some with better. I am a fan of both but I feel that you are biased over Adele. She is one of the best vocalists ever imo and I believe that voices like Gaga's and Adele's are the best and not voices like Mariah's cause quantity is not better than quality. Still Adele is very restricted to what she does, she is one of the best at what she does but imo Gaga is better in more things. It doesn;t mean that Gaga is better than Adele but I don't think that they do the same thing to begin with. That probably came across worse than I intended. What i meant was that artists have strengths and weaknesses. Gaga will never be able to kill a soulfull/rnb ballad like Adele, just like Adele would not kill a power-pop anthem like gaga can. I can see and very much appreciate your point. We all have our preferences but we cant measure gaga's talent against someone like Adele because their trying to achieve completely different things (which should be treated with equal merit) Im not bias over Adele ( i would listen to a gaga album over hers any day). Just wanted to present an alternative viewpoint in this thread which was inevitably gonna end up as a wank fest/who's **** is bigger pissing match. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LilVenusian 579 Posted November 24, 2014 Share Posted November 24, 2014 You're hilarious considering I haven't even listened to Cheek 2 Cheek I listen to tons of other musicians and go to tons of other artist concerts. I'm just stating facts Gaga blows everyone out in music right now in talent, her talent is unreal. I haven't even bothered to listen to Cheek to Cheek yet sis. At least we can agree on that :haha: Compared to her pop peers shes definitely stands out, but once you start to study and appreciate the legends of music (all through the decades) as well as alternative/underground music scenes someone like gaga is not that impressive.Bless you for your naivety, but gaga is merely one interesting talent in sea of hundreds that came before and many others that already exist today (but you've probably never heard of) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MelbHawker 6,583 Posted November 24, 2014 Share Posted November 24, 2014 the best type of attitude. tbqh I really am over how harshly female musicians are judged by people. Am I guilty of doing it? Yeah. Am I beginning to change my thoughts/beliefs? Yeah. There's no definitive way of deciding who is the best at something. Gaga's f*cking epic. Is she the best? I don't really care. She's my favourite musician at the moment and those who aren't into her music... their huge loss. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doroteyo 444 Posted November 24, 2014 Share Posted November 24, 2014 shes good at almost every aspect... but shes not among the best at anything if you know what i mean? Shes above average vocally, above average in writting ability (keeping in mind most songs she doesnt write entirally by herself), and average to above average dancer But shes not as good of a dancer as Usher or Britney Spears when she was younger, and her voice isnt as powerful as Whitney Huston or Adeles (although Gaga does have a little more versatility in her voice) etc the advantage of this tho is she isnt stuck with soulful singing like Adele, or lip-syncing like Britney are relying only on dancing... it gives Gaga the ability to try more things and thus may help her remain relevant and change with the times. I feel like this kind of commentary (And this topic overall) debases the purpose of an artist. I mean... weighing talents? really? It seems as if talent can be exchanged or sold to make "a good overall package." No. What Gaga does is not quantifiable - her message and her role in the industry are part of her creativity and part of her cause. How can you determine the value of that then?... I am prepared to take on the flames Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewYorkCity 10,536 Posted November 24, 2014 Share Posted November 24, 2014 She is the most talented in music industry. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ItsOnlyAshleigh 2 Posted November 24, 2014 Share Posted November 24, 2014 I feel like Gaga is truly a musician in every aspect. I can't say the same for anyone else currently. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheOriginalOne 10,749 Posted November 24, 2014 Share Posted November 24, 2014 She's definitely one of the most. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
VforVendetta 2,024 Posted November 24, 2014 Share Posted November 24, 2014 That probably came across worse than I intended. What i meant was that artists have strengths and weaknesses. Gaga will never be able to kill a soulfull/rnb ballad like Adele, just like Adele would not kill a power-pop anthem like gaga can. I can see and very much appreciate your point. We all have our preferences but we cant measure gaga's talent against someone like Adele because their trying to achieve completely different things (which should be treated with equal merit) Im not bias over Adele ( i would listen to a gaga album over hers any day). Just wanted to present an alternative viewpoint in this thread which was inevitably gonna end up as a wank fest/who's **** is bigger pissing match. Yes, I get your point and I agree. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
natashaUK 0 Posted November 24, 2014 Share Posted November 24, 2014 Pure talent plus versatility hopefully means she can continue for years and years. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
llbcherry 591 Posted November 24, 2014 Share Posted November 24, 2014 Overall, I have to say Yes. The only other phenomenal vocals IMO might be Ariana, b/c dang that girl can blow. But she lacks in all other areas. Gaga has: -an amazing voice -versatility -amazing piano skills -songwriting ability -great (better than "decent", IMO) dance moves -a broad artistic vision -a true passion for art and music -a genuine love for her fans (kind of irrelevant to the point, but important overall, none-the-less) -creativity (which affects live shows, fashion, album art, music videos, etc.) as many have said.. anyone who beats her in one category is lacking in one, if not many of the other categories. So it's safe to say that she IS most talented in the pop genre at this time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Born Brave 2,072 Posted November 24, 2014 Share Posted November 24, 2014 Yeah I think she honestly is and she garners respect from her peers for her talent. Taylor Swift is probably a close 2nd. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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