squeala 875 Posted November 12, 2014 Share Posted November 12, 2014 It's like saying I hate women or I hate gay people.no it's really not. women and gays are oppressed classes. men are an oppressor class. it's impossible to hate men as much as men hate women. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
faux 2,190 Posted November 12, 2014 Share Posted November 12, 2014 he can go jump off a cliff Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
craig 680 Posted November 12, 2014 Share Posted November 12, 2014 There's no such thing as reverse racism LOL racism is a structural inequality that makes whites on top and the rest on the bottom to profit white privilege. White people can only get hurt feelings from mocking them, people of color have been through endless oppression and hatred stemmed from white culture. White people can die at the hands of black hate criminals. Men can suffer at the hands of nasty feminist bosses with a chip on their shoulder or wives that assault them with weapons. The reason Eminem hates women is largely because of his mother, who had power over him as a little kid. Same way when women are misandrists it isn't because of some structural oppression BS, its because of bad treatment from men in their life. White trash is a CLASSIST term. Like chav in UK. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
craig 680 Posted November 12, 2014 Share Posted November 12, 2014 no it's really not. women and gays are oppressed classes. men are an oppressor class. it's impossible to hate men as much as men hate women. Hitler thought the Jews were an evil oppressor class who dominated the world. And the poor Germans were their victims. That kind of totalizing thinking about groups is very dangerous and divisive. "They are all bad guys, we are just sticking up for ourselves, it's okay to be assholes to them." Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shawn Knowles 2 Posted November 12, 2014 Share Posted November 12, 2014 Kanye king of rap? obviously :awkney: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whispering 18,865 Posted November 12, 2014 Share Posted November 12, 2014 White people won't always be the majority. They are right now in the US, though. When we talk about race, ethnicity, gender, religion, or any other socially meaningful group of people, the majority refers to the social group considered to have the most power in a particular place (and sometimes the most members). In the United States, white people are considered to be the racial majority group. White people have historically been the most powerful race in terms of representation in the media, business positions, or representation in politics. Majority groups are often statistical majorities, meaning the group with the most people, but this is not always true. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
squeala 875 Posted November 12, 2014 Share Posted November 12, 2014 Hitler thought the Jews were an evil oppressor class who dominated the world. And the poor Germans were their victims. That kind of totalizing thinking about groups is very dangerous and divisive. "They are all bad guys, we are just sticking up for ourselves, it's okay to be assholes to them." ...wtf? You obviously don't understand the definition of "oppressor". Hitler believed that the Jews were an inferior race, and he wanted the Aryan race to oppress, exploit and exterminate non-Aryans as much as possible. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GagaisHotAF 419 Posted November 12, 2014 Share Posted November 12, 2014 He is easily one of the most talented rappers ever. But I think he was kidding most of the time he is. It was a freestyle so this is what came through his head. Probably on Grindr Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
craig 680 Posted November 12, 2014 Share Posted November 12, 2014 ...wtf? You obviously don't understand the definition of "oppressor". Hitler believed that the Jews were an inferior race, and he wanted the Aryan race to oppress, exploit and exterminate non-Aryans as much as possible. It's also possible for misandrist feminists to combine the idea that men have total power with the idea that men are nasty and violent and uncaring and morally worse than women. Anti-semites generally envy Jews for being more wealthy and "privileged" . Some fantasize that Jews run the world. If Hitler hadn't felt threatened by Jews he wouldn't have felt the need to take such drastic measures. "The patriarchy" is a similar construct of fantasy. Men might have it better on average, but a particular guy might be abused by his mother, henpicked by his wife, pushed around at work by a female boss, and feel powerless. Individual context matters. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
squeala 875 Posted November 12, 2014 Share Posted November 12, 2014 It's also possible for misandrist feminists to combine the idea that men have total power with the idea that men are nasty and violent and uncaring and morally worse than women.men are all of those things though? men are socialised to be that way. Anti-semites generally envy Jews for being more wealthy and "privileged" . Some fantasize that Jews run the world. If Hitler hadn't felt threatened by Jews he wouldn't have felt the need to take such drastic measures.yes but they didn't believe that jews were an oppressor class "The patriarchy" is a similar construct of fantasy. Men might have it better on average, but a particular guy might be abused by his mother, henpicked by his wife, pushed around at work by a female boss, and feel powerless. Individual context matters.so your argument is that if the patiarchy exists why are some women bad people? are you serious? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prometheus 1,494 Posted November 12, 2014 Share Posted November 12, 2014 no it's really not. women and gays are oppressed classes. men are an oppressor class. it's impossible to hate men as much as men hate women. Aw, you're in deep. Listen. I am gay. I am male. I am a feminist. You cannot hate someone because history has given them privilege. You can hate them for reinforcing that privilege by continuing the cycle. I am starting a feminist group on campus in order to combat slut-shaming and s-xual assault on campus. By hating someone for something out of their control (including those who are trying to change things) is downright sad and ignorant. Please, grow up. They are right now in the US, though. When we talk about race, ethnicity, gender, religion, or any other socially meaningful group of people, the majority refers to the social group considered to have the most power in a particular place (and sometimes the most members). In the United States, white people are considered to be the racial majority group. White people have historically been the most powerful race in terms of representation in the media, business positions, or representation in politics. Majority groups are often statistical majorities, meaning the group with the most people, but this is not always true. I realize what the majority is in terms of equality and social justice. White people hold the most power and the most privilege; however, that will change, especially with the spotlights being placed upon the corrupt system. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whispering 18,865 Posted November 12, 2014 Share Posted November 12, 2014 I realize what the majority is in terms of equality and social justice. White people hold the most power and the most privilege; however, that will change, especially with the spotlights being placed upon the corrupt system. The numbers will change. That doesn't mean the power structure will change along with it. White people will still be in control, for a long time after they become the statistical minority. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
craig 680 Posted November 12, 2014 Share Posted November 12, 2014 1. men are all of those things though? men are socialised to be that way. 2. yes but they didn't believe that jews were an oppressor class 3. so your argument is that if the patiarchy exists why are some women bad people? are you serious? 1. Some men are, but it's misandrist to think all men are. 2. Yes they did. They saw Jews as privileged and powerful (and racially inferior at the same time). 3. No, the point is men or whites can be oppressed in their particular case, despite being part of a group better off as a whole. There is no patriarchy when women are 51% of the population and can outvote men and do any job a man can, and when most men feel more solidarity with their wives and daughters and mothers than with males as a class. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prometheus 1,494 Posted November 12, 2014 Share Posted November 12, 2014 The numbers will change. That doesn't mean the power structure will change along with it. White people will still be in control, for a long time after they become the statistical minority. I am not speaking numerically. Again, I understand what a minority and majority mean in terms of social justice and privilege. I am saying that since white people are increasingly put in the spotlight as the privileged class (and often hated for it [see squeela as an example of feminism gone wrong and becoming misandry]) things will change. Just as Rome fell, so will white people. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whispering 18,865 Posted November 12, 2014 Share Posted November 12, 2014 I am not speaking numerically. Again, I understand what a minority and majority mean in terms of social justice and privilege. I am saying that since white people are increasingly put in the spotlight as the privileged class (and often hated for it [see squeela as an example of feminism gone wrong and becoming misandry]) things will change. Just as Rome fell, so will white people. Maybe, one day...but it is highly unlikely something you will have to worry about in your lifetime. (not in the US) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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