Gypsy Life 118,907 Posted January 15, 2015 Share Posted January 15, 2015 Applause says hi. Despite it having the chart run on the radio at least that you like it still hasn't outsold Born This Way which disappeared the moment it lost the number one spot on the Hot 100 People do too much on Born This Way. It sold 2M during its 6-weeks stay at #1 then another 2M after that. Far from disappearing after losing the top spot. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
VforVendetta 2,024 Posted January 15, 2015 Share Posted January 15, 2015 Applause says hi. Despite it having the chart run on the radio at least that you like it still hasn't outsold Born This Way which disappeared the moment it lost the number one spot on the Hot 100 Are you seriously comparing these two runs? BTW was at the peak of her carrer and ARTPOP at the most negative part of it. The Era was doomed from the first moment, the media had decided. Applause survived out of a miracle and not only tha but it obtained huge longivity. The unexpected crumble of BTW from the top of the charts to the bottom was a combination of Gaga's huge name/influence to the media back then combined with it's mediocrity as a single and the fact that she left people divided with it's eccentricity, people eithe rloved it or hated and the fact that they were forced to it didn;t help either.It's two completely different things, let's not. Let's just hope that the new Era wil strart with a more positive vibe. Gaga needs the reception so that she gets good headlines from the media and a good promotional plan to sustain the sales till the GP gets into her again. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bye 3,947 Posted January 15, 2015 Share Posted January 15, 2015 See you never. See you in 2016 It'll be glorious Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOTRODSGAGA 81 Posted January 15, 2015 Share Posted January 15, 2015 Applause says hi. Despite it having the chart run on the radio at least that you like it still hasn't outsold Born This Way which disappeared the moment it lost the number one spot on the Hot 100 Can she have another born this way now tho? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
VforVendetta 2,024 Posted January 15, 2015 Share Posted January 15, 2015 I'm so sad about the Cheek To Cheek position. Did you really expect this album to have more longevity? I'm more then pleased from it's chartrun and reception. Can she have another born this way now tho? I'd take an applause over a work b---h (with a higher debut tho) any day any time. I'd take a Diamonds over both. Slow building, a lot of longevity and ending up with huge sales. She can do it. By lowering our standarts more we don't achieve anything, we are in th charts section and we have our expctations. I was very happy that Applause survived and did that well but it doesn;t mean that I didn;t exect more before and I still do. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
artpopmess 369 Posted January 15, 2015 Share Posted January 15, 2015 Can she have another born this way now tho? Yeah if she sits down and writes a great song, something she hasn't done since April 2011, when she finished the BTW album don't follow my instagram (trying out reverse psychology) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOTRODSGAGA 81 Posted January 15, 2015 Share Posted January 15, 2015 Yeah if she sits down and writes a great song, something she hasn't done since April 2011, when she finished the BTW album Bye. She'll never debut with those numbers again. She'll never have a hotshot debut unless the next era slays :air: I'd rather her taking time with promo, radio ads and music video releases over releasing everything in one week leaving nothing for the rest of the single era :air: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ViviLittleM 3 Posted January 15, 2015 Share Posted January 15, 2015 Did you really expect this album to have more longevity? I'm more then pleased from it's chartrun and reception. I'd take a Diamonds over both. Slow building, a lot of longevity and ending up with huge sales. She can do it. By lowering our standarts more we don't achieve anything, we are in th charts section and we have our expctations. I was very happy that Applause survived and did that well but it doesn;t mean that I didn;t exect more before and I still do. I spoke about the bb 200 position (the mess with streaming) You know, I know. Albums sales position is good. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
artpopmess 369 Posted January 15, 2015 Share Posted January 15, 2015 Bye. She'll never debut with those numbers again. I'd rather her taking time with promo, radio ads and music video releases over releasing everything in one week leaving nothing for the rest of the single era :air: Any great song that has a radio deal as huge as Born This Way's was can match its sales, especially if it's released on a Monday and not a Friday don't follow my instagram (trying out reverse psychology) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOTRODSGAGA 81 Posted January 15, 2015 Share Posted January 15, 2015 Did you really expect this album to have more longevity? I'm more then pleased from it's chartrun and reception. I'd take a Diamonds over both. Slow building, a lot of longevity and ending up with huge sales. She can do it. By lowering our standarts more we don't achieve anything, we are in th charts section and we have our expctations. I was very happy that Applause survived and did that well but it doesn;t mean that I didn;t exect more before and I still do. I was thinking if diamonds when i wrote this post. Overall the diamonds era was so peaceful with its slow rise on iTunes and radio. Ugh don't remind me of the bloody iTunes updates that would last days or the rolling effect :air: Any great song that has a radio deal as huge as Born This Way's was can match its sales, especially if it's released on a Monday and not a Friday If you say so :air: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
VforVendetta 2,024 Posted January 15, 2015 Share Posted January 15, 2015 I spoke about the bb 200 position (the mess with streaming) You know, I know. Albums sales position is good. The BB chart just shows the obvious, that the album is impacting mainly the older generations and not the new onea and it's expected since the Jazz gerne comes from like 70 years ago. I don't agree that the BB chart is irrelevant lilke some other member suggest, I feel that it's the most relevant one. Streaming is the music platform of our age and so the chart mirros the success of music of today. ARTPOP was much more successful that C2C eventhough they will end up around the same in the US. ARTPOP impacted the children/teens/young adults of today. C2C didn't and that wasn't the point anyway. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blank Space 0 Posted January 15, 2015 Share Posted January 15, 2015 That was the only one missed in my collection for 10 euros I had The Fame + The Fame Remix ^^ I need ARTPOP for full collection. :megaflop: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supersonic 49,376 Posted January 15, 2015 Share Posted January 15, 2015 The BB chart just shows the obvious, that the album is impacting mainly the older generations and not the new onea and it's expected since the Jazz gerne comes from like 70 years ago. I don't agree that the BB chart is irrelevant lilke some other member suggest, I feel that it's the most relevant one. Streaming is the music platform of our age and so the chart mirros the success of music of today. ARTPOP was much more successful that C2C eventhough they will end up around the same in the US. ARTPOP impacted the children/teens/young adults of today. C2C didn't and that wasn't the point anyway. Tbh I think the Billboard system goes wrong in every single direction. It doesn't feel right to include airplay and streaming in the Singles Chart, and it sure as hell doesn't feel right in the Albums chart. It's like you're running a bakery and a lot of people show by but no one's buying anything. You wouldn't say "Oh well, I might have not sold any of the sh*t I made today, but at least people stopped by, looked at my pastries and left" Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CannaeDrive 3,412 Posted January 15, 2015 Share Posted January 15, 2015 Tbh I think the Billboard system goes wrong in every single direction. It doesn't feel right to include airplay and streaming in the Singles Chart, and it sure as hell doesn't feel right in the Albums chart. It's like you're running a bakery and a lot of people show by but no one's buying anything. You wouldn't say "Oh well, I might have not sold any of the sh*t I made today, but at least people stopped by, looked at my pastries and left" I like your a--logy and it really comes to that : the mess with Billboard is the confusion between sales and no-sales, the volume of customer traffic IS NOT the same thing/concept as customer sales. This are basic marketing notions, really. "Fame Is A Boomerang" - Maria Callas Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
VforVendetta 2,024 Posted January 15, 2015 Share Posted January 15, 2015 Tbh I think the Billboard system goes wrong in every single direction. It doesn't feel right to include airplay and streaming in the Singles Chart, and it sure as hell doesn't feel right in the Albums chart. It's like you're running a bakery and a lot of people show by but no one's buying anything. You wouldn't say "Oh well, I might have not sold any of the sh*t I made today, but at least people stopped by, looked at my pastries and left" It's not the same though. To obtain the things that the bakery has you have to go and buy them. You need to eat food. WIth music you are not forced to buy it anymore, actually much less people buy music every day. So yes, the point of music is popularuty, music is not bread. If you listen the music somehow then the music is doing it's purpose, if you look at food nothing changes, you have to buy it to eat it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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