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Tony Bennett: "I steered Lady Gaga toward quality"


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MonsterofFame

Tony's 88 and a traditionalist. His views are unsurprising. Many other people his age think exactly the same. We're all a bit biased for the music that shaped our generation and think it was the best (mostly because we grew up with it and it holds nostalgia for us). And once we're a certain age, our tastes become very rigid and we find it more difficult to open our minds to new sounds. There's no point arguing with an elderly person about why the music of today isn't garbage. The best you can do is just say what I've said above.

 

I'm sure he didn't mean anything bad by this but it does sound like he's suggesting that she was limited with her original work and that these jazz songs have shown her what good music is all about. I find it funny that we praise someone for singing a jazz cover but criticise an original song. While a good voice and a good interpretation makes a cover good, there's ultimately nothing original about singing someone else's song, or having all your songs written for you. A lot of artists from Tony's day, including himself, sang songs written for them - they were just a voice and nothing else. That was the norm and no one said they should write their own work. But now we think being an artist involves originality and we criticise those who rely on songwriters or make a living off of cover versions, which is kinda how it should be, when you really think about it. I don't know how it's better for someone to sing cover versions instead of writing their own work. The problem with genres like jazz is that covering the classics is a big part of the industry, so all the classics have had umpteen versions, which all sound the same after a while as there's no other way to interepret them. And as no one's producing new jazz, it's just a bunch of people singing the same old stuff. That's why I wanted new songs on the album too - new material is what is going to revitalise the genre.

 

Well said! Best post in this thread.  :applause: 

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I'm sure he didn't mean anything bad by this but it does sound like he's suggesting that she was limited with her original work and that these jazz songs have shown her what good music is all about. I find it funny that we praise someone for singing a jazz cover but criticise an original song. While a good voice and a good interpretation makes a cover good, there's ultimately nothing original about singing someone else's song, or having all your songs written for you. A lot of artists from Tony's day, including himself, sang songs written for them - they were just a voice and nothing else. That was the norm and no one said they should write their own work. But now we think being an artist involves originality and we criticise those who rely on songwriters or make a living off of cover versions, which is kinda how it should be, when you really think about it. I don't know how it's better for someone to sing cover versions instead of writing their own work. The problem with genres like jazz is that covering the classics is a big part of the industry, so all the classics have had umpteen versions, which all sound the same after a while as there's no other way to interepret them. And as no one's producing new jazz, it's just a bunch of people singing the same old stuff. That's why I wanted new songs on the album too - new material is what is going to revitalise the genre.

Katy perry singing a bad "original" is not automatically better than Ella Fitzgerald singing Summertime. And jazz is so much more vital than you think, it's not just a bunch of "old people" doing the same things. That's not even counting that even an average jazz singer is going to be a much better vocalist, and certainly more versed in actual musicianship, than 99% of pop artists.

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Azor Ahai

inb4 gaga has emotional breakdown about Tony forcing her to do jaaz and give up on pop...

Why must eveyrthing be so mezzy

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I can't at you guys. You are missing the whole point here, the most important piece of information: Gaga's been singing jazz since she was 13. That's what all matters. Geez.

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I can't at you guys. You are missing the whole point here, the most important piece of information: Gaga's been singing jazz since she was 13. That's what all matters. Geez.
Also, she's Italian.
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MonsterOfSpain

 

I'm sure he didn't mean anything bad by this but it does sound like he's suggesting that she was limited with her original work and that these jazz songs have shown her what good music is all about. I find it funny that we praise someone for singing a jazz cover but criticise an original song. While a good voice and a good interpretation makes a cover good, there's ultimately nothing original about singing someone else's song, or having all your songs written for you. A lot of artists from Tony's day, including himself, sang songs written for them - they were just a voice and nothing else. That was the norm and no one said they should write their own work. But now we think being an artist involves originality and we criticise those who rely on songwriters or make a living off of cover versions, which is kinda how it should be, when you really think about it. I don't know how it's better for someone to sing cover versions instead of writing their own work. The problem with genres like jazz is that covering the classics is a big part of the industry, so all the classics have had umpteen versions, which all sound the same after a while as there's no other way to interepret them. And as no one's producing new jazz, it's just a bunch of people singing the same old stuff. That's why I wanted new songs on the album too - new material is what is going to revitalise the genre.

 

I agree 100% with this

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bionic

inb4 gaga has emotional breakdown about Tony forcing her to do jaaz and give up on pop...

Why must eveyrthing be so mezzy

 

I can't at you guys. You are missing the whole point here, the most important piece of information: Gaga's been singing jazz since she was 13. That's what all matters. Geez.

 

:rip: at these comments

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Tony and his hipster teas

 

I'm sure he dances to Applause while no one is looking, don't break your hips Tony B!  :emma:

Mariah - Ariana - Rihanna
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